TWG 203 Werewolves in Avalon GAME THREAD

[roundbox]

I will always denounce slip theory unless your name is Xiz

[Jub3r7]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Ok well that was fast, lol

@Jub3r7: I asked you several questions a page ago that I would appriciate you going back and answering. How I read you depends on these answers

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If you've read them, answer them

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Ok, why? Do you have a reason/something to point to in thread that leads you to believe this?

I think you've made a lot of points that seem overblown to me to the point where I'm worried about my own confirmation bias.

Like, the "contradiction" stuff with manti which everyone else seems to have ignored - before even getting to semantics (which apparently negate that argument,) - you can get a read on someone without having the exact words to explain why, that is later put into words by something they do or someone else's argument. If someone has reasoning that changes over time as you change your behavior, but they still suspect you of being a wolf, there's not really a fault in that. Plus given the mechanics of the game there might be obvious reasons to force a tunnel from EITHER side, whether to gauge reactions and narrow down Merlins or to lynch a "known" wolf.

Again, why? What about the reads that makes you feel one way or another about them?

Please quote the arguments you think are contrived and explain what about them leads you to believe it.

I'll have to go back to the beginning of the game for this but sure!

misread tone:

Originally Posted by Shadow_God_10

Roundbox... What are you doing?

misread tone or possibly contrived:

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Did Roundbox like only read like one random line from every post lmao

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

You're making post like this and yes, the fact it's sarcasm does make it worse

I included some additional context that wasn't originally included in your quotes. He made a joke and your reaction to it didn't seem worth commenting on if I give it the most benevolent of assumptions.

I'm extremely curious on what you think a wolf would do instead.

Not do something like voting at the last second from one town to another to avoid standing out, maybe?

Also, is the first town you're talking about me? Because if not then you're missing the most sus part of the whole thing.

I may or may not have believed that he was voting me before he voted FFA...

[Wayward Vagabond]

Call me icebecause I'll catch you slippin

[Jub3r7]

oh my god how do I get rid of the quote replies that show up every time I look at the advanced posting box

[Jub3r7]

Originally Posted by bugkid666

also i don't think anyone has actually formulated an opinion about wv other than "shrug" myself included. i think this is important, because he's participating without saying anything novel imo

wv <- opinion

[roundbox]

Originally Posted by Jub3r7

wv <- opinion

I don't hate it!

time to look at other players that aren't WV so I don't hypocritically dig into a tunnel

[Wayward Vagabond]

Originally Posted by Jub3r7

wv <- opinion

Thanks for making my dreams come true

[Wayward Vagabond]

Originally Posted by Jub3r7

wv <- opinion

So who are you pairing me with. Who are my wolf pals

[Jub3r7]

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond

Wasn't sarcasm but I did catch myself tunneling on jub that's why I kinda stopped abruptly with them. One of these days I'll catch a slip tho god damn it

ive townslipped as wolf and wolfslipped as town before according to others. not that i think either of these things are real but.

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond

So who are you pairing me with. Who are my wolf pals

Oh ummmm could you tell me who they are? im not so sure...

[roundbox]

fucking shit I just deleted a halfway done reads list
this forum is mean and deserves autosave
too bad it'll never happen ;(

[roundbox]

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond

So who are you pairing me with. Who are my wolf pals

one does not need to find all 3 wolves at once to justify a vote

[Wayward Vagabond]

Originally Posted by Jub3r7

ive townslipped as wolf and wolfslipped as town before according to others. not that i think either of these things are real but.


Oh ummmm could you tell me who they are? im not so sure...

So you havent thought beyond "i don't like how WV is playing so he must be a wolf"

What does lynching me resolve for you. What insight into who do you get from me being lynched.

[Jub3r7]

I've thought at least two steps beyond that, one of which I don't care to elaborate on and the other is like... still not something you can really defend against but maybe still worth mentioning? I hard TR a number of people that needs to be reduced if you aren't a wolf.

[Wayward Vagabond]

Originally Posted by roundbox

one does not need to find all 3 wolves at once to justify a vote

You're not wrong but there has to be more there if you're voting someone as town.

[Wayward Vagabond]

Originally Posted by Jub3r7

I've thought at least two steps beyond that, one of which I don't care to elaborate on and the other is like... still not something you can really defend against but maybe still worth mentioning? I hard TR a number of people that needs to be reduced if you aren't a wolf.

What's tr

[Wayward Vagabond]

Also why don't you care elaborating on

[mellon_collie]

Originally Posted by Jub3r7

I've thought at least two steps beyond that, one of which I don't care to elaborate on and the other is like... still not something you can really defend against but maybe still worth mentioning? I hard TR a number of people that needs to be reduced if you aren't a wolf.

Who are you hard town reading? Sorry if I missed it

First part of this post is pretty vague

[roundbox]

here's a condensed version of my reads list

lil bit town
manti - I agreed with you earlier in this phase, and I think your points continue down this route too. I jive with the vote switch, and just read my other posts ok
bug - toneread, I feel like you can't roll wolf to save your life. not too confident in your vote on manti, but you at least had a point I feel was better directed than some others

null
freezin - I hope you feel better soon. I don't know if I can read you authentically because you're sick, but part of me wants to say you being flexible with your vote (changing from jub3r7 to manti) feels less of your town game, but I also want to disagree with your overall vote
raeko - I feel like raeko has been doing more responding to posts than directly reading posts for analysis. could be a mask, but could be me reaching

lil scary
MML? - here's the thing: I hate this wagon, honestly, but I think I'd rather see you go given the previous talk on NL
charu - I'm going to sheep manti a bit here for this read. you and raeko seem to be playing the same game. You seem to be doing more responding than solving, but you also are voting for WV, which I'm a fan of
jub3r7 - I don't think both you and WV can both be wolves at the same time. I would like more reads from you on other players in this game. I agree with your points on WV here, but want to see more.
WV - see my previous posts, he's getting a little scary fmpov. asking to be the counter-wagon is a bit chaosy, but I don't think that's necessarily alignment indicative

[Jub3r7]

tr = town reading! I'm trying to be vague on purpose but you guys are making it hard

[Jub3r7]

you know what heck it, i'll make a reads list in a little bit. I want to reread cause there are some people I *should* have opinions on but don't (not because they're null but because they felt *generally* town and stopped paying attention to them afterwards).