Ingame Song Information - Page 21

**jimerax** · 02-4-2007, 09:11 AM

added token & subscriber's songs, discuss they should be here or not.

seems difficult to add more info on this list, such as patterns, sync, color, etc.

**Dronak** · 02-4-2007, 11:42 AM

Thanks for updating the information. I'll give a few remarks on the points up for discussion, for what they're worth.

Subscriber's songs are just future SotW songs, right? That means we'll all seem them eventually, so I don't think there should be a problem with leaving them in the list. I suppose you could wait on adding them until they go public, but personally it doesn't matter that much to me. I've been looking up the names in the song list anyway to add them to my best scores spreadsheet.

As for token songs, I'd like this information to remain available. Knowing that a token song exists, its name, difficulty, stats, etc. shouldn't be a real problem. It looks like threads on the board are going to talk about these as they're released anyway, and give some clues on getting them, so it will be hard not to know they're out there. They could be made a separate listing though since, like Shashakiro said, they're not exactly meant to be standard fare. For now, I'm keeping them separate in my spreadsheet, mainly because I don't see them in the song list, so they're not factoring in to my average rank.

**jimerax** · 02-4-2007, 12:08 PM

OK, subscriber's songs are future regular songs.
songs that I added this time.

Destiny (4/6, 51)

Xuxa (4/6, 53)
Hardcore of the North (4/6, 54)

World of Dreams (3.5/6, 46)
{Frozen} (5/6, 69)
Science Genius Girl (lameboy mix) (3.5/6, 47)
Air (5/6, 71)
Ruins (4.5/6, 65)
Honolulu (3/6, 39)
Sonic 1 Final Zone (2/6, 18)
Gaussian Blur 3 (4.5/6, 64)

**Tasselfoot** · 02-4-2007, 12:56 PM

i'd maybe bump HotN to 56 or so. just in comparing it to xuxa and destiny.

for me, frozen is harder than air... but i'd agree that air is harder.

**jimerax** · 02-5-2007, 06:38 AM

Air has some difficulty for 32nd bursts and gallop-like patterns.
Frozen has many jumpstreams, but still Air is harder.

It's hard to determine the accurate place of HotN, want more opinion.
possibly 55 or 56.

**hi19hi19** · 02-5-2007, 10:11 AM

HotN isn't hard to pass or read, but it seems pretty hard to PA.
Also, the 24ths are fairly challenging at that speed.

55 seems good.

EDIT- Although... compare it to Z which is a 62.
Z has similar patterns and is actually slower, so I don't know... I actually think Z is over-rated.

**Tasselfoot** · 02-5-2007, 06:16 PM

Z has much more stream. HotN is all small bursts. and the patterns are easier.

has_anyone_seen_my_mind? · 02-5-2007, 07:12 PM

hellbeat isnt all that hard
it shoud really be 4.75/6 really
its easy to me...

**Shashakiro** · 02-5-2007, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by has_anyone_seen_my_mind?

hellbeat isnt all that hard
it shoud really be 4.75/6 really
its easy to me...

Mashing a pass doesn't mean anything.

**jimerax** · 02-7-2007, 11:53 AM

Improvisation et Chien is either high 3.5 or low 4.
Deinitely not 3 IMO.

**Shashakiro** · 02-7-2007, 11:56 AM

say 3.5.

It only has a couple tricky parts, the rest is cake IMO.

**Tasselfoot** · 02-7-2007, 05:32 PM

updated ingame to 3.5

will-o-wisp0_me · 02-8-2007, 07:50 PM

i just keep thinking snowflakes is very easy. i show new people it and they love it. they can almost combo it after a day. I also notice that there's like 10,000 people that have around 10 or less goods.

arelik · 02-10-2007, 01:37 PM

Why is Klung Klung easier than Splash Beats? The hardest part in Splash beats is the long 1 handed thrills IMO. Klung klung has 1 handed thrills too, it also has running men at the end and the general arrow difficulty is harder.

**Doug31** · 02-10-2007, 02:45 PM

Well, for me, Klung Kung is somehow much easier to PA than Splash Beats is. I think Klung Kung is easier.

ledwix · 02-10-2007, 02:48 PM

splash beats is faster, harder, jackier.

**Shashakiro** · 02-10-2007, 03:42 PM

lol, splash is like 20 BPM faster. that's why it's harder.

arelik · 02-10-2007, 04:09 PM

Alright, Splash Beats is harder if you all say so.. but for me its easier for some reason :/

**Tasselfoot** · 02-10-2007, 06:42 PM

190bpm vs 175bpm... the difference there in the 1-handed trills is HUGE. i can combo the 1-handed trills in KK (which are longer) about 60-70% of the time. i combo the 1-handed trills in SB about 10% of the time.

**Rebirth0** · 02-10-2007, 07:33 PM

Splash Beats is harder than Klung Klung. Don't rate the songs by how hard the one handed trills are. Rate them by difficulty for all playing styles.

02-4-2007, 09:11 AM	#401
jimerax ★_★★^★★ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tokyo Posts: 8,185	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 added token & subscriber's songs, discuss they should be here or not. seems difficult to add more info on this list, such as patterns, sync, color, etc.

02-4-2007, 11:42 AM	#402
Dronak FFR Veteran Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 601	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 Thanks for updating the information. I'll give a few remarks on the points up for discussion, for what they're worth. Subscriber's songs are just future SotW songs, right? That means we'll all seem them eventually, so I don't think there should be a problem with leaving them in the list. I suppose you could wait on adding them until they go public, but personally it doesn't matter that much to me. I've been looking up the names in the song list anyway to add them to my best scores spreadsheet. As for token songs, I'd like this information to remain available. Knowing that a token song exists, its name, difficulty, stats, etc. shouldn't be a real problem. It looks like threads on the board are going to talk about these as they're released anyway, and give some clues on getting them, so it will be hard not to know they're out there. They could be made a separate listing though since, like Shashakiro said, they're not exactly meant to be standard fare. For now, I'm keeping them separate in my spreadsheet, mainly because I don't see them in the song list, so they're not factoring in to my average rank. __________________ Essentially retired now, but still ranked on the list of FFR's Top One Handers. One-Hander Skill Tokens unlocked: The V2 Token, The Patience Token, X_X1MissX_X, AAA v5, T.H.E.G.A.M.E.T.O.K.E.N Pseudo Skill Tokens unlocked: Numbers 21, 44, 33, 57, 26, 24, 47, 95

02-4-2007, 12:08 PM	#403
jimerax ★_★★^★★ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tokyo Posts: 8,185	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 OK, subscriber's songs are future regular songs. songs that I added this time. Destiny (4/6, 51) Xuxa (4/6, 53) Hardcore of the North (4/6, 54) World of Dreams (3.5/6, 46) {Frozen} (5/6, 69) Science Genius Girl (lameboy mix) (3.5/6, 47) Air (5/6, 71) Ruins (4.5/6, 65) Honolulu (3/6, 39) Sonic 1 Final Zone (2/6, 18) Gaussian Blur 3 (4.5/6, 64)

02-4-2007, 12:56 PM	#404
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 i'd maybe bump HotN to 56 or so. just in comparing it to xuxa and destiny. for me, frozen is harder than air... but i'd agree that air is harder. __________________ RIP

02-5-2007, 06:38 AM	#405
jimerax ★_★★^★★ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tokyo Posts: 8,185	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 Air has some difficulty for 32nd bursts and gallop-like patterns. Frozen has many jumpstreams, but still Air is harder. It's hard to determine the accurate place of HotN, want more opinion. possibly 55 or 56.

02-5-2007, 10:11 AM	#406
hi19hi19 lol happy Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: DESTINY Age: 33 Posts: 12,193	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 HotN isn't hard to pass or read, but it seems pretty hard to PA. Also, the 24ths are fairly challenging at that speed. 55 seems good. EDIT- Although... compare it to Z which is a 62. Z has similar patterns and is actually slower, so I don't know... I actually think Z is over-rated. __________________ Last edited by hi19hi19; 02-5-2007 at 10:14 AM..

02-5-2007, 06:16 PM	#407
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 Z has much more stream. HotN is all small bursts. and the patterns are easier. __________________ RIP

02-5-2007, 07:12 PM	#408
has_anyone_seen_my_mind? FFR Player Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: i dont know Posts: 4	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 hellbeat isnt all that hard it shoud really be 4.75/6 really its easy to me... Last edited by has_anyone_seen_my_mind?; 02-7-2007 at 05:45 PM..

02-7-2007, 11:53 AM	#410
jimerax ★_★★^★★ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tokyo Posts: 8,185	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 Improvisation et Chien is either high 3.5 or low 4. Deinitely not 3 IMO.

02-7-2007, 05:32 PM	#412
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 updated ingame to 3.5 __________________ RIP

02-10-2007, 01:37 PM	#414
arelik FFR Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 184	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 Why is Klung Klung easier than Splash Beats? The hardest part in Splash beats is the long 1 handed thrills IMO. Klung klung has 1 handed thrills too, it also has running men at the end and the general arrow difficulty is harder. Last edited by arelik; 02-10-2007 at 02:13 PM..

02-10-2007, 02:45 PM	#415
Doug31 Falcon Paaaauuuunch!!!!!! Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Washington Age: 36 Posts: 6,811	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 Well, for me, Klung Kung is somehow much easier to PA than Splash Beats is. I think Klung Kung is easier. __________________

02-10-2007, 02:48 PM	#416
ledwix Giant Pi Operator Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: California Age: 33 Posts: 2,878	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 splash beats is faster, harder, jackier.

02-10-2007, 04:09 PM	#418
arelik FFR Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 184	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 Alright, Splash Beats is harder if you all say so.. but for me its easier for some reason :/

02-10-2007, 06:42 PM	#419
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 190bpm vs 175bpm... the difference there in the 1-handed trills is HUGE. i can combo the 1-handed trills in KK (which are longer) about 60-70% of the time. i combo the 1-handed trills in SB about 10% of the time. __________________ RIP

02-10-2007, 07:33 PM	#420
Rebirth0 FFR Originalbro Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Age: 33 Posts: 8,750	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 Splash Beats is harder than Klung Klung. Don't rate the songs by how hard the one handed trills are. Rate them by difficulty for all playing styles.

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