Ingame Song Information

[rednanaki]

Originally Posted by Patashu

what's up with the {}s

we're not fags like cornandbeans are we

ooooooooo

[bmah]

difficulty 13 = ultimate? excruciating? intense? extreme?

would any of these be plausible? (difficulties shouldn't be restricted to "For ___ Only")

[HammyMcSquirrel]

"For GG_Guru Only" or maybe just "!".

Hardest sounds the best to me out of the options so far. I also like Foilman's idea with having "Beginner", "Master", and "Guru" as replacements for those other three names, but I don't mind it either way.

[ShadowX2D]

I remember when Silence and FotBB had no difficulty names...

Anyway, my preferred list (not that I have much influence) would be..

1. Easiest
2. Beginner
3. Very Easy
4. Easy
5. Standard
6. Tricky
7. Difficult
8. Very Difficult
9. Challenging
10. Very Challenging
11. Master
12. Guru
13. Insane

Kinda combined thoughts from all earlier posts.

[alexdestructions]

Originally Posted by ShadowX2D

1. Easiest
2. Beginner
3. Very Easy
4. Easy
5. Standard
6. Tricky
7. Difficult
8. Very Difficult
9. Challenging
10. Very Challenging
11. Master
12. Guru
13. Insane

This one I like, insane sounds like a 13 difficulty.

[TC_Halogen]

I liked For Legends Only, but seeing as how the acronym is a bit overused, I guess Insane will do.

[spEXartELITan]

I think For Beginners, For Masters Only, and For Gurus Only makes sense because each difficulty finished the phrase of this song is, such as this song is Very Difficult or this song is For Masters Only then. For Beginners and not For Beginners Only makes sense because those who are not beginners can obviously handle it. For Legends Only sounds good because people aspire to be masters or gurus or legends, not to be insane. That would probably cause beginners who are not sure if they should get into the game to feel like they're treading down a dangerously addictive path. People who are not masters or gurus also probably secretly like the Only part because if they go against the name of the song, play it, and pass it, they feel as if they've accomplished some part of eventually being a master, guru, and perhaps now legend. If another Only difficulty is still rejected then what happened to Very Tricky? Hardest would make sense only if there is a hard and very hard since there is an easy and very easy for easiest. I think the reason why the generic term easy is used to describe the lower difficulty songs while a more specific term like guru instead of the more generic term hard is used to describe higher difficulty songs because a specific cool title sounds more rewarding as opposed to a degrading specific title for the lower difficulty songs like pansy. I'm sure Light and Heavy were not included even though (For) Beginner(s), Standard, and Challenging were used from DDR because difficulty names would go more towards the area of anorexic and sumo wrestler.

[foilman8805]

Hardest makes sense because we already have an Easiest.

[HammyMcSquirrel]

Originally Posted by spEXartELITan

Hardest would make sense only if there is a hard and very hard since there is an easy and very easy for easiest.

Originally Posted by foilman8805

Hardest makes sense because we already have an Easiest.

I also want to add that the term "Hard" can be viewed as "Difficult", and we have a "Difficult" and "Very Difficult" category already. So it makes even more sense when looked at in spEXartELITan's logic.

Edit: I suppose "Challenging" can be compared to "Hard" but...eh, you get the idea. =P Basically just saying that it makes plenty of sense because there is enough for it to be related to like "Easiest" is.

[ninjaKIWI]

For Shash's Sideburns Only.

[foilman8805]

Most of the difficulties are synonyms for each other, Hammy.

But I ask what is harder than Hardest? Hardest implies that nothing is harder than it (imo).

I like Hardest, and I'm also comfortable with Insane. If the For _____ Only titles are not disposed of, then FLO works the best, imo again.

[HammyMcSquirrel]

Originally Posted by foilman8805

Most of the difficulties are synonyms for each other, Hammy.

Exactly my point. There is enough to be compared to "Hardest" as there is to "Easiest", even if the word "Hard" isn't used anywhere else in the difficulty ratings. I threw that into an edit on my previous post because I wasn't clear enough before.

[alexdestructions]

Originally Posted by ninjaKIWI

For Shash's Sideburns Only.

For FishFish's Crotch Only.

[ShadowX2D]

Originally Posted by spEXartELITan

I think For Beginners, For Masters Only, and For Gurus Only makes sense because each difficulty finished the phrase of this song is, such as this song is Very Difficult or this song is For Masters Only then.

I dont think it actually has to finish the phrase "This song is for (Difficulty)".

I'd rather see one/two word difficulties, like on any console video game, lets say Halo for example. One word difficulties, Easy, Normal, Heroic, and Legendary. Now these are sorta copyrighted I would assume, so rule them out for songs, but its not like the difficulty has a phrase to go along with it. Such as this difficulty is for (Difficulty name). Or it wouldnt make sense.

"This difficulty is for Legendary(ies?)" Not much sense there.

My point is, it's a song rating, not a phrase filler.

Edit: To me, there would only be able to be one song labeled "Easiest" and one song labeled "Hardest". Now it's not easy to say which song is the easiest, but obviously vRofl is the hardest. So if anything, vRofl should get the "Hardest" label. Maybe Free Space or Power would get the "Easiest", if things went that way.

[Patashu]

They're only 'Easiest' and 'Hardest' in a loose sense, relative to everything else as a group, not an utterly, completely superlative sense. We do have three Easiest songs, after all, and one of them is clearly harder than the others.

[foilman8805]

I don't think restricting Easiest and Hardest to one song is a good idea and it's not really logical. I think you're being a bit too literal. They can have more than one song in them, and they should be comparable in difficulty, i.e. RATO, DP, and vROFL are all 'Hardest'.

[TC_Halogen]

Originally Posted by ShadowX2D

like on any console video game, lets say Halo for example.

nonononononononononononononononononononoNO

Well, didn't Halo have a legendary difficulty choice anyway?

Also, the For Legends Only is seeming like the best choice to me, even though the acronym is a bit over used.

I know hardest would fit too, Easiest is the lowest, Hardest is the highest...but the name just doesn't feel right to me. Nothing against the choice, but I simply think there's something better. Not that I could come up with it anyway...I suck at naming things.

[Zybanthia]

Originally Posted by Patashu

They're only 'Easiest' and 'Hardest' in a loose sense, relative to everything else as a group, not an utterly, completely superlative sense. We do have three Easiest songs, after all, and one of them is clearly harder than the others.

I actually thought of it this way myself, but if you think of it as the easiest difficulty rating, then it can make more sense to have more than one. If you're looking at it as the easiest song, then it doesn't make sense.

[Kairon]

Oh snap, this is getting intense. Personally, I like:

Legendary
For Legends Only
Hardest
Anything else (Insane/Deadly/Intense/Crazy/etc.)

...in that order. Legendary, as far as I'm concerned, is a perfect 13th difficulty name. It conveys a feeling of intense difficulty and insane skill, and while it is slightly more ambiguous than Hardest, I think it just feels more appropriate. While songs like vROFL, DP, and RATO may technically be the Hardest songs in the game, they feel Legendary. And I think "a Legendary AAA" seems more epic and appropriate than "a Hardest AAA" when considering the material. (Not that there necessarily will be any Legendary AAAs.) FLO works too, and provides a nice 3-letter acronym, although we don't necessarily need another 'For ___s Only' difficulty. Hardest is the most logical of the group, and does its purpose just fine, although I don't think it's nearly as exciting or interesting as Legendary. And, as far as I'm concerned, anything else on the list is just a step down from Legendary.

[spEXartELITan]

Originally Posted by ShadowX2D

I dont think it actually has to finish the phrase "This song is for (Difficulty)". My point is, it's a song rating, not a phrase filler.

I'm not sure why I put it this way, but what I really meant instead of finishing the phrase this song is is that the difficulties are adjectives. Master and Guru don't sound very striking or forceful by themselves, even though because we've seen these words for so long any mention of them will bring back what songs have caused us to associate them with. Whenever I saw the word guru before I thought of like fishing guru, but when used in the phrase For Gurus Only it made wonder what level of intimidation a song like this would bring.

Originally Posted by ShadowX2D

"This difficulty is for Legendary(ies?)" Not much sense there.

Originally Posted by spEXartELITan

For Legends Only sounds good

Originally Posted by HammyMcSquirrel

I also want to add that the term "Hard" can be viewed as "Difficult", and we have a "Difficult" and "Very Difficult" category already. So it makes even more sense when looked at in spEXartELITan's logic.

I also wondered whether Hard was in this case synonymous with Difficult, but you first learn when you're little the terms Easy and Hard for comparing difficulty, so Hard does not seem like a very worthy term

Originally Posted by TC_Halogen

Hardest is the highest...but the name just doesn't feel right to me.

if you can handle that difficulty since

Originally Posted by spEXartELITan

I think the reason why the generic term easy is used to describe the lower difficulty songs while a more specific term like guru instead of the more generic term hard is used to describe higher difficulty songs because a specific cool title sounds more rewarding as opposed to a degrading specific title for the lower difficulty songs like pansy.

Originally Posted by ShadowX2D

Easy, Normal, Heroic, and Legendary.

Even with Halo more generic terms like Easy and Normal are used with lower difficulties to give a sense of being plain and more specific terms like Heroic and Legendary are used with higher difficulties to give a sense of reward. Although Normal was probably cast out for a song's difficulty because it could be seen as saying the song is just normal or average, which probably wasn't used for this reason as well, song.

Originally Posted by Kairon

Legendary, as far as I'm concerned, is a perfect 13th difficulty name.

I think the difficulty of the Halo campaign was described in this way because you aren't comparing yourself to others, and it feels satisfying to say that you made the legendary story become a reality. Also saying For Beginners probably directs first time players and gives them some needed encouragement since this game is all skill and no story, although if this isn't taken into account it would probably make sense to take it out and shift the difficulties to add Very Tricky.This is also probably why in multiplayer you are described as a rank or actual noun like a general, since you can then look up this tangible person online. Since FFR is more similar to a multiplayer game, For Legends Only would make sense since you can find one of these legends by typing MrRubix in the profile search.