Multiplayer Suggestion

**TC_Halogen** · 06-12-2009, 01:27 AM

Through my whole time at FFR, I can safely say that I've spent more time in MP than any other parts of the site put together. More often than not, my MP experience has been good and I have no regrets. But there's those other few times, those times where you have that random person who comes in, completely oblivious to the rules because they've never in their life visited [the] forums. Most of the time, these people try to claim ignorance, saying that they don't know or didn't know about the rules of the site (even though they are pretty obvious rules). I know that I'm not the only multiplayer regular who sees this; we all know what it's like to see that person who hits Ctrl+V and Enter as fast as they can, breaking up sometimes meaningful conversations, causing ridiculous amounts of lags, and simply just bringing chaos to a community that is just there to congregate like any other.

What I'm going to suggest here is a simple idea that may help people follow the rules a bit better, if they even care to follow them.

^([4:07 AM] CARLOS (who_cares973) I LOVE YOU SO MUCH RIGHT NOW)^

My solution: A rules button on the connection screen that leads to Shash's MP Guide. It has all of the rules and answers most if not all questions that newer users have when they first enter Multiplayer.

Scottish/Sprite-: Have each user see a prompt upon entering MP for your first time, requiring you to accept an agreement (which includes the rules) to access the area. This way, all calls of ignorance are completely void because they accepted the agreement.
Addition by me: Have everyone who hasn't seen the prompt before have to accept the agreement, this way everyone who was a member prior to the inclusion of the agreement is not exempt if they break a rule.

A basic rules button on the very first screen would be a nice addition to the game. My thoughts on this were simple: newer members of the game usually jump into FFR by watching their friends, or by searching for some sort of a dance game simulator online. When they get to the homepage of FFR, they aren't really looking for anything else but the game, to try it out. Once they've played it, they become satisfied with the game, and hey, you have a new member. However, the forums are very large for someone who is brand new, and while there is a newbie forum, the size of the forum as a whole is quite intimidating. So what happens? A player jumps right into the game, and joins multiplayer. Nothing wrong with that at all. However, questions don't always get answered by other users in the room because they are busy engaging in their own conversation, or they are away from the room. This can cause frustration to the newer user, who may end up typing in all caps lock, spamming, or even cussing out of desperation to get someone else's attention. Moderators should not have to give more than one warning to a person when a rule is broken, and I feel that if this is added, moderators can be less lenient when it comes to first time offense because it shows that rules have not been read.

TL;DR version: Read the bolded text just after the picture.

**reptile3141** · 06-12-2009, 01:34 AM

Cool idea, Halogen. I like it. +1

**i love you** · 06-12-2009, 01:35 AM

1+ Support!

I agree with everything you just said Halogen. I personally think that this would make a great feature for FFR and that it will reduce the excuses and the trouble moderators have to go through about people disobeying the rules even if the majority of it is pretty much common sense.

who_cares973 · 06-12-2009, 01:35 AM

i support this idea

not because i made the image and spent two hours making it but because i believe this is a step forward

**One Winged Angel** · 06-12-2009, 01:36 AM

+1

Nice idea, AJ

Commandersa1 · 06-12-2009, 01:36 AM

Good suggestion, and very easy to add.

There will still be a lot of people who won't read it, but ask questions and such. On the other hand, it will cut down some of the questions.

**TC_Halogen** · 06-12-2009, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Commandersa1

Good suggestion, and very easy to add.

There will still be a lot of people who won't read it, but ask questions and such. On the other hand, it will cut down some of the questions.

Not only that, but people who are asked can simply tell those asking to click on the Rules button for all things MP. No need to spend time explaining it while others are talking in MP, because some info can be lost if a person needs to look at their KB while typing, or leave the room, and such.

BabyViperx3 · 06-12-2009, 01:56 AM

+3258845948 support. I'm sick and tired of noobs asking where the rules/faq is.

**Sprite-** · 06-12-2009, 02:34 AM

YES YES YES YES
There should also be something that tells them that they must read the rules before entering - just so that they cannot claim ignorance at all.

cedolad · 06-12-2009, 02:38 AM

+whatever number is bigger than BV's. Great idea, even though I don't hang around MP much, it'll still be easy for some of the new member.

**scottish** · 06-12-2009, 02:55 AM

Of course I agree.. except, along with what Sprite said, I think there should be a prompt that states the rules, the user needs to click accept (upon first entering mp for the first time, only once), and viola. It would be much easier to list it out and show it up front than to create a link to the forums, which most people would skip over and say they did not see it when they get banned.
Anyway, +1 too.

Edit: And for further clarification, I'm for the new Rules Button, but I think the Agree and Accept terms crap should be there.

**TC_Halogen** · 06-12-2009, 03:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scottish

Of course I agree.. except, along with what Sprite said, I think there should be a prompt that states the rules, the user needs to click accept (upon first entering mp for the first time, only once), and viola. It would be much easier to list it out and show it up front than to create a link to the forums, which most people would skip over and say they did not see it when they get banned.
Anyway, +1 too.

After talking to you about it--yeah, this is a good idea. Hitting that accept button is technically an agreement that you would be bound to, and you wouldn't have any excuse if/when you get banned, because you have to hit that button to access MP. VERY nice idea.

**Patashu** · 06-12-2009, 03:23 AM

Terrible idea; I can't see how any of you could possibly think this would benefit FFR.

sike

**TC_Halogen** · 06-12-2009, 04:08 AM

New picture: I love Carlos SO much right now.

EDIT: I'd personally like to give who_cares973 a big thank you for spending a bunch of time on these pictures--he put three different pictures out for me and this is by far better than what I would have hoped for.

who_cares973 · 06-12-2009, 04:10 AM

**Sprite-** · 06-12-2009, 09:25 AM

Wow that looks amazing - nice dude!

justin_ator · 06-12-2009, 10:30 AM

Great idea!

**NSane** · 06-12-2009, 11:32 AM

Pretty easy to implement. Not a bad idea.

**TC_Halogen** · 06-12-2009, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NSane

Pretty easy to implement. Not a bad idea.

Sweet, I'm glad that you like it. I honestly thought that this was something that really needed to be done.

**Plan_Bsk81127** · 06-12-2009, 01:34 PM

+1 for this idea.

Maybe it will stop that bullying going on. :P

06-12-2009, 01:27 AM	#1
TC_Halogen Rhythm game specialist. Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Bel Air, Maryland Age: 32 Posts: 19,376	Multiplayer Suggestion Through my whole time at FFR, I can safely say that I've spent more time in MP than any other parts of the site put together. More often than not, my MP experience has been good and I have no regrets. But there's those other few times, those times where you have that random person who comes in, completely oblivious to the rules because they've never in their life visited [the] forums. Most of the time, these people try to claim ignorance, saying that they don't know or didn't know about the rules of the site (even though they are pretty obvious rules). I know that I'm not the only multiplayer regular who sees this; we all know what it's like to see that person who hits Ctrl+V and Enter as fast as they can, breaking up sometimes meaningful conversations, causing ridiculous amounts of lags, and simply just bringing chaos to a community that is just there to congregate like any other. What I'm going to suggest here is a simple idea that may help people follow the rules a bit better, if they even care to follow them. ^([4:07 AM] CARLOS (who_cares973) I LOVE YOU SO MUCH RIGHT NOW)^ My solution: A rules button on the connection screen that leads to Shash's MP Guide. It has all of the rules and answers most if not all questions that newer users have when they first enter Multiplayer. Scottish/Sprite-: Have each user see a prompt upon entering MP for your first time, requiring you to accept an agreement (which includes the rules) to access the area. This way, all calls of ignorance are completely void because they accepted the agreement. Addition by me: Have everyone who hasn't seen the prompt before have to accept the agreement, this way everyone who was a member prior to the inclusion of the agreement is not exempt if they break a rule. A basic rules button on the very first screen would be a nice addition to the game. My thoughts on this were simple: newer members of the game usually jump into FFR by watching their friends, or by searching for some sort of a dance game simulator online. When they get to the homepage of FFR, they aren't really looking for anything else but the game, to try it out. Once they've played it, they become satisfied with the game, and hey, you have a new member. However, the forums are very large for someone who is brand new, and while there is a newbie forum, the size of the forum as a whole is quite intimidating. So what happens? A player jumps right into the game, and joins multiplayer. Nothing wrong with that at all. However, questions don't always get answered by other users in the room because they are busy engaging in their own conversation, or they are away from the room. This can cause frustration to the newer user, who may end up typing in all caps lock, spamming, or even cussing out of desperation to get someone else's attention. Moderators should not have to give more than one warning to a person when a rule is broken, and I feel that if this is added, moderators can be less lenient when it comes to first time offense because it shows that rules have not been read. TL;DR version: Read the bolded text just after the picture. Last edited by TC_Halogen; 06-12-2009 at 04:10 AM.. Reason: New rule + corollary.

06-12-2009, 01:35 AM	#3
i love you Live a wonderful life~ Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,313	Re: Multiplayer Suggestion 1+ Support! I agree with everything you just said Halogen. I personally think that this would make a great feature for FFR and that it will reduce the excuses and the trouble moderators have to go through about people disobeying the rules even if the majority of it is pretty much common sense. __________________ =============================== The idea that RDCP 3 may come out in the future is a fun thought to have~ ===============================

06-12-2009, 01:35 AM	#4
who_cares973 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: :U Age: 35 Posts: 15,407	Re: Multiplayer Suggestion i support this idea not because i made the image and spent two hours making it but because i believe this is a step forward __________________

06-12-2009, 01:36 AM	#6
Commandersa1 FFR Player Join Date: Mar 2006 Age: 33 Posts: 2,344	Re: Multiplayer Suggestion Good suggestion, and very easy to add. There will still be a lot of people who won't read it, but ask questions and such. On the other hand, it will cut down some of the questions. __________________

06-12-2009, 01:56 AM	#8
BabyViperx3 FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Southern California Age: 31 Posts: 444	Re: Multiplayer Suggestion +3258845948 support. I'm sick and tired of noobs asking where the rules/faq is. __________________ http://www.facebook.com/BabyViper http://www.plurlife.com/Babyviper http://www.formspring.me/BabyViper *R.I.P Jellygawd<3*

06-12-2009, 02:34 AM	#9
Sprite- HAVE ME WITH VODKA Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Long Island, New York Age: 35 Posts: 7,316	Re: Multiplayer Suggestion YES YES YES YES There should also be something that tells them that they must read the rules before entering - just so that they cannot claim ignorance at all.

06-12-2009, 02:38 AM	#10
cedolad moonchild~ Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: . Age: 30 Posts: 6,879	Re: Multiplayer Suggestion +whatever number is bigger than BV's. Great idea, even though I don't hang around MP much, it'll still be easy for some of the new member. __________________

06-12-2009, 02:55 AM	#11
scottish FFR Veteran Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: New Jersey Age: 36 Posts: 3,257	Re: Multiplayer Suggestion Of course I agree.. except, along with what Sprite said, I think there should be a prompt that states the rules, the user needs to click accept (upon first entering mp for the first time, only once), and viola. It would be much easier to list it out and show it up front than to create a link to the forums, which most people would skip over and say they did not see it when they get banned. Anyway, +1 too. Edit: And for further clarification, I'm for the new Rules Button, but I think the Agree and Accept terms crap should be there. Last edited by scottish; 06-12-2009 at 02:57 AM..

06-12-2009, 03:23 AM	#13
Patashu FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: we traced the call...it's coming from inside the house Age: 33 Posts: 8,609	Re: Multiplayer Suggestion Terrible idea; I can't see how any of you could possibly think this would benefit FFR. sike __________________ Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker: http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1) http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

06-12-2009, 04:08 AM	#14
TC_Halogen Rhythm game specialist. Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Bel Air, Maryland Age: 32 Posts: 19,376	Re: Multiplayer Suggestion New picture: I love Carlos SO much right now. EDIT: I'd personally like to give who_cares973 a big thank you for spending a bunch of time on these pictures--he put three different pictures out for me and this is by far better than what I would have hoped for. Last edited by TC_Halogen; 06-12-2009 at 04:12 AM..

06-12-2009, 04:10 AM	#15
who_cares973 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: :U Age: 35 Posts: 15,407	Re: Multiplayer Suggestion <3 __________________

06-12-2009, 09:25 AM	#16
Sprite- HAVE ME WITH VODKA Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Long Island, New York Age: 35 Posts: 7,316	Re: Multiplayer Suggestion Wow that looks amazing - nice dude!

06-12-2009, 10:30 AM	#17
justin_ator 🥓<strong><span style="col Resident Overseer Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Kingsport, TN Posts: 7,648	Re: Multiplayer Suggestion Great idea! __________________

06-12-2009, 11:32 AM	#18
NSane Retired Staff Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 475	Re: Multiplayer Suggestion Pretty easy to implement. Not a bad idea. __________________ Retired from FFR/Stepmania Playing Hearthstone now Highest Hearthstone Rank: Legend Lannix#1632 @ Americas

06-12-2009, 01:34 PM	#20
Plan_Bsk81127 snooches Join Date: Aug 2007 Age: 32 Posts: 6,420	Re: Multiplayer Suggestion +1 for this idea. Maybe it will stop that bullying going on. :P

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