World of Warcraft - Page 97

**Squeek** · 08-22-2009, 08:03 PM

I think the Faction Change will balance that out.

The last census data I heard was 55% Alliance and 45% Horde.

**Squeek** · 08-22-2009, 10:48 PM

Hello doublepost.

Faction Champions 10-man was a joke. We one-shotted it.

Faction Champions 25 is impossibly hard. We managed to kill one NPC in our best run.

How is it fair to have a PVP fight where they can CC you endlessly, have 2 million health, subject to diminishing returns, no aggro tables, and trinkets, where you're forced to wear PVE gear, have 20-30k HP, and die as soon as two targets decide to attack you at the same time?

I honestly believe it is impossible to complete that encounter without a death. Furthermore, I do not think anybody will get the achievement for killing them all in 60 seconds. Ever.

**hi19hi19** · 08-23-2009, 07:32 AM

If only you could AoE the faction champions...

"Everyone stack on the tank, all aoe gogo"

45 seconds later everything dead

EDIT- I've also managed to achieve almost full ulduar level gear (219+) without having ever gotten past Kologarn ever. <3 the new badge system, even if it is kinda retarded

ssgoku42_00 · 08-23-2009, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by devonin

Alliance outnumbers Horde on a global basis by not a small amount. More people going alliance would make the population balance issues worse, not better.

are you nuts every server i play on alliance is by far out numbered by far by far by horde

**Squeek** · 08-23-2009, 08:32 AM

And clearly your anecdotal evidence is fact for all servers, right?

You need to learn the difference between your own experience and the worldwide trend.

The majority of server balance is for the Alliance. The majority of Battlegroup balance is for the Alliance. The majority of all characters in the game are Alliance.

Does this mean there are no servers where Horde outnumber Alliance? Of course not. There are about two dozen servers where the Horde vastly outnumber the Alliance. But there are nearly twice as many servers with the opposite trend.

Nearly three million players are night elves or humans. That tells you something right there.

**devonin** · 08-23-2009, 11:33 AM

And something like 14% of all players are death knights, and that tells you something else as well.

**Gun92** · 08-23-2009, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by devonin

And something like 14% of all players are death knights, and that tells you something else as well.

That everyone likes playing new classes, especially ones that don't start at level 1?

**Brycexx** · 08-23-2009, 11:38 AM

and 13.95 percent of the those people who play the dk's have downs

Grandiagod · 08-23-2009, 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by devonin

And something like 14% of all players are death knights, and that tells you something else as well.

I don't get that "of all players" stuff. Does that mean of how many people are on at any given time 14% are DKs, that 14% of all characters in wow are DKs or that 14% of all level capped characters are DKs?

Because it's kind of a skewed statistic either way. I mean, I have a 79 DK,but I have an 80 priest and 80 warrior.

In fact, I know of no one that hasn't at least made a DK yet. But then again, I don't know anyone who hasn't at least tried out all the classes either.

**devonin** · 08-23-2009, 02:40 PM

It's a statistic of "Out of every character that exists on WoW globally"

tsugomaru · 08-23-2009, 04:23 PM

Before I transferred, the Horde always won everything. I'm not going to deny it. We were just better, that's all. On my old server, the Alliance outnumbered the Horde very slightly, but never once did they win a single Wintergrasp from what I've seen. In fact, after a week or two, the forum was just filled with threads asking the Horde not to show up at Wintergrasp so that the Alliance could actually do the raids there.

~Tsugomaru

Bill Kaulitz · 08-25-2009, 12:30 AM

I have a variety of character I like to try. My highest is a 61 Tauren DK. Which kinda bored me a little bit. I have a 50 Tauren Druid, 15 Draenei Hunter, 22 Blood Elf Warlock, 25 Troll Mage, and the list goes on. xDD

**devonin** · 08-25-2009, 07:37 AM

Don't you need to have had at least one character over 55 to make a Dk at all?

zergovermind2006 · 08-25-2009, 11:01 AM

=]
My main is Alajin, lvl 80 Troll Hunter on Maelstrom (RPPvP) , but i dont play him that much since Blizz decided to neglect hunters recently... which will change!

other than that i dont have any other high-lvls... but i have been wanting to start a druid, and when the next expansion comes out i think im gonna switch to Alliance cuz of the Worgen >.>

EDIT: Did you guys ever decide on a guild or something? Haha, I just don't want to look through all 97 pages xD

**devonin** · 08-25-2009, 01:34 PM

Too many people on too many different servers, not willing to pay for transfers or start from level 1 to try and make an ffr-specific guild somewhere.

firefox01 · 08-25-2009, 04:01 PM

i'm sorry, but i have to say that world of warcraft is gay as ****! That is all.

Sullyman2007 · 08-25-2009, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill Kaulitz

I have a variety of character I like to try. My highest is a 61 Tauren DK. Which kinda bored me a little bit. I have a 50 Tauren Druid, 15 Draenei Hunter, 22 Blood Elf Warlock, 25 Troll Mage, and the list goes on. xDD

I also feel obligated to ask.. don't you have to have another toon over level 55 to make a DK?

Grandiagod · 08-25-2009, 04:16 PM

Yeah, however if you make a DK and delete that toon you'll still have your DK

Grandiagod · 08-25-2009, 04:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by firefox01

i'm sorry, but i have to say that world of warcraft is gay as ****! That is all.

**Gun92** · 08-25-2009, 04:22 PM

You beat me to it Grandi.

08-22-2009, 08:03 PM	#1921
Squeek let it snow~ Join Date: Jan 2004 Age: 37 Posts: 14,444	Re: World of Warcraft I think the Faction Change will balance that out. The last census data I heard was 55% Alliance and 45% Horde.

08-22-2009, 10:48 PM	#1922
Squeek let it snow~ Join Date: Jan 2004 Age: 37 Posts: 14,444	Re: World of Warcraft Hello doublepost. Faction Champions 10-man was a joke. We one-shotted it. Faction Champions 25 is impossibly hard. We managed to kill one NPC in our best run. How is it fair to have a PVP fight where they can CC you endlessly, have 2 million health, subject to diminishing returns, no aggro tables, and trinkets, where you're forced to wear PVE gear, have 20-30k HP, and die as soon as two targets decide to attack you at the same time? I honestly believe it is impossible to complete that encounter without a death. Furthermore, I do not think anybody will get the achievement for killing them all in 60 seconds. Ever.

08-23-2009, 07:32 AM	#1923
hi19hi19 lol happy Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: DESTINY Age: 33 Posts: 12,193	Re: World of Warcraft If only you could AoE the faction champions... "Everyone stack on the tank, all aoe gogo" 45 seconds later everything dead EDIT- I've also managed to achieve almost full ulduar level gear (219+) without having ever gotten past Kologarn ever. <3 the new badge system, even if it is kinda retarded __________________

08-23-2009, 08:32 AM	#1925
Squeek let it snow~ Join Date: Jan 2004 Age: 37 Posts: 14,444	Re: World of Warcraft And clearly your anecdotal evidence is fact for all servers, right? You need to learn the difference between your own experience and the worldwide trend. The majority of server balance is for the Alliance. The majority of Battlegroup balance is for the Alliance. The majority of all characters in the game are Alliance. Does this mean there are no servers where Horde outnumber Alliance? Of course not. There are about two dozen servers where the Horde vastly outnumber the Alliance. But there are nearly twice as many servers with the opposite trend. Nearly three million players are night elves or humans. That tells you something right there.

08-23-2009, 11:33 AM	#1926
devonin Very Grave Indeed Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 40 Posts: 10,098	Re: World of Warcraft And something like 14% of all players are death knights, and that tells you something else as well.

08-23-2009, 11:38 AM	#1928
Brycexx FFR Veteran Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: South Carolina Age: 35 Posts: 438	Re: World of Warcraft and 13.95 percent of the those people who play the dk's have downs __________________ Very Challenging AAA'S Turbulence

08-23-2009, 02:40 PM	#1930
devonin Very Grave Indeed Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 40 Posts: 10,098	Re: World of Warcraft It's a statistic of "Out of every character that exists on WoW globally"

08-25-2009, 12:30 AM	#1932
Bill Kaulitz FFR Player Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Canada Age: 34 Posts: 467	Re: World of Warcraft I have a variety of character I like to try. My highest is a 61 Tauren DK. Which kinda bored me a little bit. I have a 50 Tauren Druid, 15 Draenei Hunter, 22 Blood Elf Warlock, 25 Troll Mage, and the list goes on. xDD __________________ ♪ ♥ ♥ ♪

08-25-2009, 07:37 AM	#1933
devonin Very Grave Indeed Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 40 Posts: 10,098	Re: World of Warcraft Don't you need to have had at least one character over 55 to make a Dk at all?

08-25-2009, 11:01 AM	#1934
zergovermind2006 FFR Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Age: 33 Posts: 7	Re: World of Warcraft =] My main is Alajin, lvl 80 Troll Hunter on Maelstrom (RPPvP) , but i dont play him that much since Blizz decided to neglect hunters recently... which will change! other than that i dont have any other high-lvls... but i have been wanting to start a druid, and when the next expansion comes out i think im gonna switch to Alliance cuz of the Worgen >.> EDIT: Did you guys ever decide on a guild or something? Haha, I just don't want to look through all 97 pages xD Last edited by zergovermind2006; 08-25-2009 at 11:48 AM..

08-25-2009, 01:34 PM	#1935
devonin Very Grave Indeed Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 40 Posts: 10,098	Re: World of Warcraft Too many people on too many different servers, not willing to pay for transfers or start from level 1 to try and make an ffr-specific guild somewhere.

08-25-2009, 04:01 PM	#1936
firefox01 FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 203	Re: World of Warcraft i'm sorry, but i have to say that world of warcraft is gay as ****! That is all. __________________ 1st in the Dragons_Fury team tourney Advanced [/quote]

08-25-2009, 04:16 PM	#1938
Grandiagod FFR Player Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Feaefaw Age: 35 Posts: 6,122	Re: World of Warcraft Yeah, however if you make a DK and delete that toon you'll still have your DK __________________ He who angers you conquers you. ~Elizabeth Kenny

08-25-2009, 04:22 PM	#1940
Gun92 The Paragon of Perfection Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 4,826	Re: World of Warcraft You beat me to it Grandi.

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