Dropping out of school..

[sumzup]

College is fun and shouldn't be missed. High school may be lame, but tough it out and you'll end up the better for it.

[UnkownMan]

EnR, don't. I know high-school is tough, but, hey. Life is hard. Get over it. It will all pay out in the end

[welsh_girl]

How can you hate school so much ?

I'd do anything to have my last two years of school back. The real world is harder and crapper than you think.

[[TeRa]]

I dropped out and go to nightclass. Nightclass is like this, here at least: No homework, 4 classes, 1 class a night, school 4 days a week, Monday - Thursday, 7pm - 9pm, though they let us out a little after 8, math, science, history, english, earns a high school diploma.

Yes, I'm still disappointed I won't get to graduate with all my friends, but whatever, I still hang out with them.

People make dropping out sound like the worst thing, when in all honesty, I'm doing much better this way, I would have never passed normal school, pretty much dropping out was a smart move on my part. I went to school everyday, just talked and slept in school, I never did any work, or homework, I would write humorous stuff on the quizzes/tests to entertain the teacher, except for in math, because I really like math I actually did the quizzes/tests, but that's about it. I pretty much would have never graduated in normal school, I really wanted to do my work and stuff, I really did, but I couldn't push myself to do it, mostly because I had friends in my classes, I could resist talking. Now in nightclass, I don't exactly know anyone, and there really isn't any time to get to know anyone pretty much, considering I only see people an hour a week, unless I have multiple classes with them, and I'm doing really good in nightclass.

End of story, don't drop out unless you plan to alternately get your diploma, or get a G.E.D.

[phe0nixblade]

guys you are still missing the point
hes 70 years old

[Sir_Thomas]

Really... drop out if you want. I see everyone telling you "NO DONT DROP OUT ITS A HORRID IDEA." Really.. there is no difference.

If you stay in school and keep up those grades and DO pass; your grades will probably not meet the minimum to get into my colleges. You would probably have to attend a community college and then transfer (If you dont want to get a degree from a community college that is..).

That is the same thing you would do if you dropped out and got a GED.

Right now you can drop out, try out what you suggested doing, and find out if it fits you. If it does; keep at it. If not, you can get your GED and go into a community college and transfer to a university after taking a year.

Personal preference but its nice to finish highschool and get it out of the way...
Like WelshGirl said; once you get out of school you will wish you had the simplicity and structure of highschool back.

[MeaCulpa]

http://www.silentepidemic.org/resources/students.htm

It's not worth it in any way. Short-term gain or happiness in no way compensates long-term regret. Like Tokzic said, 2 years pales in comparison to the 40-something years you will be in the labour force.

I know this is gonna sound bad, but I'm not trying to be a prick at all: you sound like a whiny teenager who is complaining because things aren't going his way. A few of my own classmates thought the exact same way when I was in high school. Guess what? I absolutely hated English and Religion as well. Not everyone who gets through high school enjoyed the courses they took. You're too caught up in the present...use the future and its potential as your motivation to do your essays and assignments. It sure as hell worked for me.

Try to think on the brighter side: this is going to be your last year of having to take Math, and you get 2 spares next year. Oh, and for your teachers' sake, nobody likes a smart-ass or an incessant complainer, so don't pull that crap.

[DossarLX ODI]

Well, sports schedules can also interfere with schoolwork. I have a classmate that has hockey practice, football practice, and lacrosse on the same day so he comes back home at 9:00 pm and just showers and goes to sleep. He's always tired as fuc.

[MrRubix]

I'm sorry but I just can't justify this "do what you want" logic a few people in this thread are suggesting. It's doing him a major disservice.

This isn't really debatable, imo. You are shooting yourself in the foot in a major way by not finishing high school. Just suck it up and finish it out -- you will be glad you did later. There is a very good reason why you hear most dropouts regretting their actions.

There will always be times in life where we don't like the circumstances. It doesn't mean we simply give up. You say you talk back to your teachers as well. To me it sounds a lot like an attitude, motivation, and maturity problem. This is your future you are risking, here. You will not be able to predict with certainty how your future careers/jobs will unfold. But, odds are, there will be changes. You will have more flexibility with a high school diploma -- you don't want to get stuck in such a limited situation otherwise.

Your earning potential will be vastly limited, since there is really nothing more you could possibly lack. You'd essentially be at the bottom of the chain, and that means you're stuck doing things that are likely not going to be fulfilling and will pay less than any other job, most likely. Finishing high school will give you something like 1.5-2.0x times the income of a dropout, depending on your skills and what kind of work you can find.

So you can think of it this way: You can either spend two years toughing it out, or you'll be spending many years taking whatever you can get, losing a third of what you *could* have had had you stayed in high school. The income of a high school dropout is not the most comfortable thing in the world to live off of. Do yourself a huge, huge favor and just stick it out -- you will be very glad that you did, and it will be a large step in becoming a better man with more self-confidence.

[giganutsauce]

Originally Posted by MrRubix

why aren't you as smart as me

which is why you've never been laid

[MrRubix]

Where on earth are you getting *that* from?

[giganutsauce]

lmfao

I was considering about dropping out of high school. I can't anymore because I'm currently enlisted in the Army National Guard. I have to graduate this year.

You should join the Army too.

[infinity.]

seriously guys, maybe it would be horrible to you, but to him it makes sense
it might be a bad decision, but let him do what he pleases, school doesnt help everyone.

enr if you can make 30 dollars in hour, and sure about it, go for it, thats great money

[bluguerrilla]

But if he works for his Dad does it matter if he has the diploma?

Times have changed a bit but my Dad dropped out of HS when he was a senior and got his GED while going to a tech school. And now he's making a six figure salary (and has been for about 20 years).


I just say do what you want because if it's really what you want, you should do it.

If you're happy doing manual labor and think you'll be happy doing it the rest of your life, go for it.

If you've got the slightest hint that you may change your mind later, take your time, don't grow up so fast and try to have some fun in school (even if it is just pissing off teachers and ducking responsibility). Because if you're still living with your parents, you may as well take advantage of it while you can.


On the other hand it feels like I have no room to talk because I'm still in school. But, then again, I'm getting paid to do so and I'm doing what I want to do.

[MrRubix]

blueguerrilla: Then that's great your dad was able to do that. But you must certainly realize and understand that that kind of turnout isn't standard for dropouts. Spending two years doing a little bit of homework is a very wise investment in this case. On the contrary, it would be a huge risk not to stay in school. At the very least, get a GED if nothing else. But don't simply drop out and have nothing to show for it.

EnR, have you asked your dad specifically how much he'd pay you if you worked for him, as well as how long you could expect to be employed?

[ddr_f4n]

Originally Posted by Temote

(And I've never heard of a High School making Religion required, but then again, I'm in the US.)

Catholic Schools ftl. Yes, I go to one as well here in Canada. It's mandatory.

[bluguerrilla]

Originally Posted by MrRubix

blueguerrilla: Then that's great your dad was able to do that. But you must certainly realize and understand that that kind of turnout isn't standard for dropouts. Spending two years doing a little bit of homework is a very wise investment in this case. On the contrary, it would be a huge risk not to stay in school. At the very least, get a GED if nothing else. But don't simply drop out and have nothing to show for it.

Oh, definitely. I just think if you're intelligent and motivated, finishing high school isn't something you have to do.

My sister-in-law also dropped out in 10th grade and enrolled at a community college. She's been working and going to school ever since. I can't say whether or not she's really happy with where she is in life but school just wasn't working for her. (Her situation was a bit different, however, as she moved to a different school system and they were saying it was going to take her 3 more years to get a diploma).

It's not necessarily a huge risk as he could take over his Dad's business eventually. But like I said, it's hard to be so sure that you want to do something the rest of your life. Not only that but will he be able to? Also, the growing up quickly factor.

I also think it's best for him to hear from both sides.

[dore]

If you want to get into the music industry, you probably will need a degree in Music Industry Studies or something equivalent.

With that said, if you're happy going along with your dad's business and welding for the rest of your life, then dropping out probably wouldn't be too bad of an option. However, if you do want to get into the music industry (I assume you're interested in production or something of the sort) you will need a college education. You need a piece of paper to tell people to give you a job in that industry.

Also realize that becoming a drummer/musician of any sort will require you to take lots of lessons and at least be somewhat proficient in theory, otherwise you'll never be good lol

[AOD_ELEMENT]

i got a better idea why dont you just do homeschooling? continental academy gives out the same diploma every other school issues, you could also do exactly what your doing now. finish your work whenever you want to, finish a weeks worth in 1 day or skip a week.

[EnR]

Originally Posted by dore

If you want to get into the music industry, you probably will need a degree in Music Industry Studies or something equivalent.

With that said, if you're happy going along with your dad's business and welding for the rest of your life, then dropping out probably wouldn't be too bad of an option. However, if you do want to get into the music industry (I assume you're interested in production or something of the sort) you will need a college education. You need a piece of paper to tell people to give you a job in that industry.

Also realize that becoming a drummer/musician of any sort will require you to take lots of lessons and at least be somewhat proficient in theory, otherwise you'll never be good lol

I wouldn't mind putting the time and practice to becoming a good drummer. If I like something and put some effort into it, have fun with it, etc, I'll get good at it.

Also, if I did work in the music industry I'd most likely do something like an A&R Coordinator since it seems like a pretty cool job (Go to gigs, lisin' to tapes, sign new bands).


I'm going to see the school councellor and see if I can make a deal with him or something to keep me in school.
I think, as of right now, if I worked for my dad full time, I'd be getting 12 dollars an hour, this is at the age of 16, where I'd usually make minimum wage which is like 8.25.