04-11-2006, 05:16 PM | #101 |
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Re: Twg Xxix Postgame Wolves Win
*shrugs* whatever. The next game can be XXX.
I'll put the info from the game in the history thread and mark it down in the spreadsheet with a yellow background (just like the other 2 are marked). The only different is that the game won't be entered for statistical purposes while the other two yellow marked games currently do count. The events of this game are completely different than any other that has occured... trying to compare it to a past game is the same as comparing apples to oranges. And I'd like to think that people WOULD be this worked up over the game if it had happened to someone other than me. Just so happens that these situations ONLY happen to me. If the wolves want to make things easy... just wolf me night 1. PS - Yes, I will continue to claim that I have only been lynched once as a human. I liked the analogy to the incorrect seer results that someone mentioned. EDIT - Since we have a bunch of people banned... I was waiting until the weekend to start the game. Lent ends Sunday, so that is when Chardish will be back. He wants to play. I'll start the host signup thread Thurs or Fri, and Player signups will be Sunday. That cool with everyone?
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04-11-2006, 06:39 PM | #102 |
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Re: Twg Xxix Postgame Wolves Win
mark it as a win asshole or don't mark the others, they're identical and you ****ing know it
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04-11-2006, 06:41 PM | #103 |
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Re: Twg Xxix Postgame Wolves Win
I've explained in detail why they are different. The rest of TWC has already agreed with me, so don't blame me solely.
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04-11-2006, 06:47 PM | #104 |
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Re: Twg Xxix Postgame Wolves Win
Tass, of course you realize that it's this type of behavior that makes us all want to kill you, right?
Just don't be a jackass and we won't all want to cut your face off.
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04-11-2006, 07:15 PM | #105 |
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Re: Twg Xxix Postgame Wolves Win
lmao
Boy am I glad I got the hell out of here when I did. People need to get the hell over themselves. I didn't complain when I got lynched even though it was up there with Afro's and Tass' in terms of stupidity, nor did I complain (at least not without recanting it) when Hans did the same several games ago. Buck up, there's always next game.
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I say open up host signups ASAP, and hold off on signups until Monday. That way, those of us that might get held up on Sunday will be able to make it.
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04-11-2006, 08:52 PM | #107 |
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Re: Twg Xxix Postgame Wolves Win
Meh... While I'm tempted to do signups on Sunday PURELY because it is Easter (which I completely didn't realize until you said it) and it'll screw over all the Catholics... I'm not that cruel.
Monday it is. But you don't see me bitching about if things were going on over Passover (1st night of which is tomorrow). And while I realize that I am in fact taking Kilga's bait... Kilga, your death was partly your own fault... and in Hans' game as well. Frankly, you SUCK at defending yourself and are overly passive. Its WHY wolves leave you alive for the last day, because they know they can convince someone to vote you and you can't defend yourself against it. There was evidence against you, but as I said to TPS after you died... all the important pieces of coincedence fell against Blah. You need to learn how to defend yourself and accuse others in an effective manner, or this situation WILL repeat itself again. Don't compare your death with mine. No matter how much I could have defended myself (which was 0%, as I was insta'd before I got home), I couldn't have argued my way out of being lynched. Afro's false interrogation was concrete evidence against me. The best I could have done was MAYBE delayed it one day and had Jurs lynched before me. Your lynch was based on overly obvious logic and Blah's ability to be persuasive... mine was based on false information. There is a reason I never get lynched as a human... I can always defend myself against baseless accusations. When I'm a wolf, I often can't, because there actually IS evidence against me (although more often than not, I can still get it delayed multiple days). EDIT: Also, both Hans and TPS said something in regards to you Kilga (or at least the situation). It was something to the effect of, "Man, if eb/Blah is the wolf, they played well enough to win." Basically, neither one of them was willing to make the harder lynch of eb/Blah, because you made yourself such an easy target. You were winning alot more games when you were highly respected and wolfed early or easily suspected and lynched early. I'm going to go look at something... going to compare how long you live with how well your team does. My guess is the longer you live, the worse your team does.
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04-11-2006, 09:12 PM | #108 |
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Re: Twg Xxix Postgame Wolves Win
1 - wolf, survived, won
2 - human, wolfed night 5, won 3 - human, survived, won 4 - seer, lynched day 1, lost 6 - human, wolfed night 3, lost 8 - mason, survived, won 9 - human, survived, won 10 - human, lynched day 3, won 11 - human, wolfed night 6, lost 12 - wolf, lynched day 5, lost 14 - human, survived, won 16 - human, wolfed night 4, lost 18 - wolf, lynched day 4, won 19 - human, lynched day 3, won 20 - human, wolfed night 5, won 21 - morph, wolfed night 2, won 23 - human, lynched day 1, won 24 - human, survived, won 26 - human, lynched day 7?, lost 28 - human, survived, won 29 - human, lynched day 7, lost starting with twg 10, its 9-5, including this past game. So 2/3 the time, if Kilga dies day 1/2/3 his team wins and dies night 4+ his team loses. Before twg 10 it is 1-6... I think that speaks for itself... as I think it was around twg 10 that we started getting into the non-n00b games of TWG, where most people understand strategy and what not. Perhaps the next time Kilga is in a grouping of 3 with 1 confirmed human, that person WON'T kill Kilga...
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04-11-2006, 10:49 PM | #109 |
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Re: Twg Xxix Postgame Wolves Win
I was just dicking around. Jesus Christ, don't take everything so seriously.
As for defending myself, I did all that I needed to do. It wasn't my idea that Tps completely ignore our AIM dialogue the day after Afro was lynched. If he had stopped for 30 more seconds to think about that and how all the coincidences lined up against blah, the solution would've been obvious. On the whole, I generally don't defend myself vehemently because I see it as cracking under pressure. Plus someone really shouldn't need to be told something more than once. We're all smart people here, I would hope.
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04-11-2006, 10:54 PM | #110 |
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Re: Twg Xxix Postgame Wolves Win
Double post to provide conversation in question.
Tps7910: Hey. bjstrattonIM: Hi. Tps7910: What are your suspicions? Tps7910: For TWG today? bjstrattonIM: I'll have to take a look at the players remaining list. Tps7910: Me, Blah, Tass, Tasuke, Jurs, You,Hans bjstrattonIM: Right now, if I were to order them bjstrattonIM: Jurs, Tass, Hans/Blah, Tasuke, you. bjstrattonIM: Tass would be above Jurs if not for talisman's death. Tps7910: How so? bjstrattonIM: I had suspicions that they were working together. bjstrattonIM: But obviously not. bjstrattonIM: At least not as wolves. bjstrattonIM: So Tass gets a bit of a break from me. Tps7910: What are your thoughts on Tasuke? bjstrattonIM: I believe I've voiced this before, but I believe he's been too dumb and too inactive to be a wolf. bjstrattonIM: You and I aside, I'm least suspicious of him. bjstrattonIM: Granted, Jurs has been inactive, but she has at least posted every day and she's not a complete idiot. Tps7910: Afro came up as a wolf last night. bjstrattonIM: Huzzah. bjstrattonIM: Finally, I was right. ._.; Tps7910: Unfortunately for you, the 3rd question that he had to answer regarded the name of a wolf, and he named you. : \ bjstrattonIM: I would guess that was a lie. Tps7910: What reason would he have to lie? bjstrattonIM: I'm already suspicious in many people's eyes. Tps7910: He couldn't have lied. Tps7910: 1. Only if he was the master. Tps7910: 2. It'd give away he was a wolf Tps7910: Which isn't worth the return product bjstrattonIM: He gave away that he was a wolf regardless. bjstrattonIM: Think about it. bjstrattonIM: I was the first to vote for Afro. bjstrattonIM: If we were working together and he knew me, then I would know him. bjstrattonIM: And why would I dump the vote off on a fellow wolf? Tps7910: When did you vote him? bjstrattonIM: I voted him first yesterday. Tps7910: Before the phantom plan? bjstrattonIM: Yes. bjstrattonIM: I wasn't even aware of a phantom plan. Tps7910: That could have easily been set up. Tps7910: Which would have been perfect. bjstrattonIM: Yeah, I would want to set up the lynching of a teammate. Tps7910: You realize there is no possible way Afro could have lied. Tps7910: Mead was present and everything bjstrattonIM: Unless he was the master. Tps7910: He would have answered like a human then Tps7910: so we wouldn't know Tps7910: which outweighs framing you bjstrattonIM: You know, it's really hard for me to defend myself without knowing what on earth was asked. bjstrattonIM: I'm not asking to know, I'm just saying. Tps7910: I have a log. Tps7910: Here. Tps7910: You have just entered room "twg." Fhqwhgads703 has entered the room. Afrobean16 has entered the room. Fhqwhgads703: k Afrobean16: wtf is this crap under the chat Fhqwhgads703: go Tps7910: Ok. Fhqwhgads703: I dunno Afrobean16: is it an ad or something wtf Tps7910: 1. Are you a wolf. Afrobean16: no Tps7910: 2. Are you green? Afrobean16: yes Tps7910: 3. Have you met with another wolf? If so, reveal his/her identity, if not, say you haven't had any contact with any wolf. Afrobean16: haha Tps7910: Invalid response. Tps7910: Try again. Afrobean16: that's not even one question Tps7910: I've used it before. Tps7910: It's been approved. Fhqwhgads703: IT's valid Afrobean16: ugh fine whatever Afrobean16: kilga Tps7910: Thank you. Fhqwhgads703: chat over Tps7910: One question. Tps7910: Am I allowed to post this chat? Fhqwhgads703: Yes Tps7910: Ok. bjstrattonIM: I can only offer that he was the master. bjstrattonIM: I can see why he did what he did. bjstrattonIM: He's dead either way, so why not take a human down with him? Tps7910 is idle at 5:19:00 PM. Tps7910 is no longer idle at 5:22:39 PM. Tps7910: Because it reveals his identity. Tps7910: Which is far worse than taking down a human. Tps7910: No offense. bjstrattonIM: Not necessarily at this stage in the game. Tps7910: It does matter. Tps7910: If we thought all wolves were left. Tps7910: Then it would affect the way we vote. Tps7910: Now that we know that we have at least one more day Tps7910: We can plan our lynched differently. Tps7910: lynhes* bjstrattonIM: But he knows that there wouldn't be all wolves left. Tps7910: We wouldn't. bjstrattonIM: So, instead of risking a situation where another wolf gets voted off, why not force a situation where a wrong lynch ends the game? bjstrattonIM: The fact that we wouldn't isn't as important to him as the fact that they would. Tps7910: Why take down you then? bjstrattonIM: Because I'm an easy target. Tps7910: Why not tasuke, or jurs? bjstrattonIM: Because people are gunning for me and not for them. bjstrattonIM: Plus I'm smarter than them. >_> Tps7910: Well Tps7910: You could have easily pre-planned this with him. bjstrattonIM: Oh, and they have phantoms where I don't. Tps7910: You could have pre-planned this response with him., bjstrattonIM: You think the two of us really could have produced beforehand a response to everything you asked? bjstrattonIM: I just had a thought, let me read back through the rules. bjstrattonIM: Okay, so. bjstrattonIM: Tps7910: 3. Have you met with another wolf? If so, reveal his/her identity, if not, say you haven't had any contact with any wolf. bjstrattonIM: According to the rules, the wolves are only to meet anonymously. Tps7910: They may reveal identitys. bjstrattonIM: If that was allowed, what would be the point of anonymous screennames? Tps7910: It's just advised against. Tps7910: In case you wanted contact Tps7910: but without knowledge of one another Tps7910: in case of interrogation bjstrattonIM: If the wolves want to chat, they pm me with a secret AIM name which I will forward to the other wolves, for them to contact under a false name. bjstrattonIM: That doesn't say anything about "I advise you use a fake name but if you want to use your real one it's okay." bjstrattonIM: It says "Use a fake name." Tps7910: I've asked mead. Tps7910: He's confirmed that they may if they choose to. bjstrattonIM: It would've been nice to know that beforehand. Tps7910: It probably would have been nice to know that this entire conversation was a big test on you. Tps7910: beforhand bjstrattonIM: Yeah, it would have. Tps7910: Narrowing down the suspects. Tps7910: Oh, and btw Tps7910: The last question had MW instead of wolf Tps7910: and Tass was named. Tps7910: instead of you bjstrattonIM: o_O bjstrattonIM: Wow. Tps7910: I know. Tps7910: Don't tell anyone. bjstrattonIM: I won't. Tps7910: I'm leeking info out slowly Tps7910: I want tass to post in a normal environment bjstrattonIM: Right. Tps7910: The more info the better. Tps7910: I also plan on testing everyone the same I did on you. bjstrattonIM: Good, everyone else can feel the same way I do right now. >_> Tps7910: Hehe. Tps7910: Lets see how jurs responds. Tps7910: Especially since she is in a rush bjstrattonIM: Anyway, do you need me further? bjstrattonIM: I want to go to dinner but I can stick around for a little bit. Tps7910: No, go right ahead. bjstrattonIM: k bjstrattonIM: I'll be back in about 30. Tps7910: Nothing will be happening Tps7910: until sunday bjstrattonIM: Okay. bjstrattonIM: Jeez, Sunday is a big day. bjstrattonIM: a0.com apocalypse is Sunday. bjstrattonIM: My housing selection is Sunday. bjstrattonIM: Now this is Sunday. >_> Tps7910: Well Tps7910: Perhaps late saturday bjstrattonIM: However it goes. bjstrattonIM: Be back in a bit Tps7910: Ok Tps7910: You there? Auto response from bjstrattonIM: Not here. And no, telling me I am here is not going to magically make me stop not being here. Tps7910: yes it will bjstrattonIM: I am now. Tps7910: it worked. Tps7910: Anyways, Jurs is the last wolf. bjstrattonIM: Wow, nice. bjstrattonIM: What a turnaround. Tps7910: I know. Tps7910: Saved the conversation. There was a little more after than but it isn't important to this situation.
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04-11-2006, 11:01 PM | #111 |
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Re: Twg Xxix Postgame Wolves Win
Some things seem worth saying more than once... must have prevented all this unneeded unpleasantries if you had said, "Hey TPS... remember that convo we had where I pretty much proved my humanity to you? Yeah... go re-read that. Blah is the wolf, not me." Or something like that.
Either way... yea. I prefaced my entire above statement with "I know I'm taking the bait." *shrugs* I take this seriously... that isn't exactly news.
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04-11-2006, 11:03 PM | #112 |
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Re: Twg Xxix Postgame Wolves Win
I did, in fact, bring up the convo that day. He chose to ignore it in favor of this:
Tps7910: Not looking good for you. Tps7910: Haha, change of direction. Tps7910: Blah is a reason as to why 1 wolf died. Tps7910: He wouldn't do that as a wolf. Tps7910: What is your response to that? bjstrattonIM: It would depend on what he did. Tps7910: He gave me the questions Tps7910: that made afro reveal himself Tps7910: and lead to the revealing of Jurs via aim bjstrattonIM: I doubt he would've anticipated the Jurs thing. bjstrattonIM: And Afro probably answered those questions of his on volition. bjstrattonIM: *own bjstrattonIM: Operating under the assumption that Afro was the MW, he could've gotten out of that questioning without revealing himself. bjstrattonIM: He just chose a different route. bjstrattonIM: Which could very well have turned out to be the correct one, if you think about it Tps7910: Ok, making my vote. bjstrattonIM: Take out the best human player and make one of your fellow wolves look really good, just for a situation like this Our loss.
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04-12-2006, 12:35 PM | #113 | |
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04-12-2006, 12:51 PM | #114 |
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Re: Twg Xxix Postgame Wolves Win
No he knew about that, since I was the one that used that phrase and I was the angel, etc. And he was also really suspicious of blah up to that point when afro said tass.
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04-12-2006, 01:10 PM | #115 |
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Re: Twg Xxix Postgame Wolves Win
Ah. I couldn't find the post when I looked back, but maybe it would fall under the same category as Kilga's situation of reiterating things.
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Re: Twg XXIX Postgame Wolves Win
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