TWG 203 Werewolves in Avalon GAME THREAD

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by mellon_collie

I know what you're saying but I still feel the same way about it. The way he is focusing on that rather than the walls of texts of posts that he could be picking apart literally playing the game is what seems town to me. I think a wolf would be more interested in picking apart the posts looking for contradictions looking for contradictions and generating content In a pro town way

This is how my brain read this post. This is what it looks like you are saying to me right now

I think it's safe to say I disagree with the reasoning

[mellon_collie]

Originally Posted by roundbox

tinfoil: manti/mml is w/w

I like roundbox's posting in general but uhh is this a serious post lmao

I really don't see that happening

Originally Posted by roundbox

I don't think MML/Manti is w/w and I am not trying to insert it into the collective unconscious and will someone else to be its standard bearer

oh ok thank god

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by mellon_collie

TELL ME THOSE THOUGHTS I'll be around on and off for most of today

It was just my reasoning for why I think you voted FFA over Jub, but I wanted to defend yourself first instead of potentially giving you a free excuse

[mellon_collie]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

This is how my brain read this post. This is what it looks like you are saying to me right now

I think it's safe to say I disagree with the reasoning

I think this might be partially a site/culture thing. A lot of forum TWG not on FFR is a lot less... content-heavy?

But either way we can agree to disagree, it's just a theory and I could be totally wrong

[MixMasterLar]

Sorry, Post #538 is just bad logic. I don't even think it can be just down to a simple matter of opinion.

Manti -> Jub/Raeko -> Round ->WV it is then

[DarkManticoreX2]

Anyways I took a break last night because ping ponging intentional misrepresentations from MML was getting tedious.

TBH the back and fourth with him reminds me of old active Charu as a wolf. Charu would sometimes just dig at a target in thread by misrepresenting posts and nitpicking at basic things till either him or his target died, and that's exactly what MML is doing here. He's digging in on a revenge vote from D1 and just refusing to expand his primary voting horizons outside of that because if he leaves his tunnel he loses his momentum.


MML's entire strategy currently is "if you agree with me you're town and if you don't you're wolf".

Look at his Town reads: Bug, Freezin and Charu, If you vote for me or even indicate you want to vote for me you can get a townread from MML. Just basic pocketing. If you have any other ideas He wants to Lynch you. He's literally making it that black and white. Charu and freezin have both been lackluster and I think are bad reads. At least Bug had some reasoning.

Charu has been super agreeable with everything and seems slightly afraid to make enemies and I kinda hate it. I get the arm injury might be limiting his posting but it shouldn't be affecting his temperament. He likes MML's argument but doesn't really add to it, nods in agreement to it but doesn't pursue anything. He's like a MML shadow yes man. Of course MML likes him. If MML is somehow town and just sitting in a brutal tunnel, Charu is the yesman wolf backing him up.

Freezin's thread impact has been low. MML even notes this but puts him on the I can solve him later train:

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

I like Freezin's last few posts but it ain't like he's rocking the boat or anything, pretty standard takes for the game in it's current state. The one thing I disagree on is that I do think we have two active wolves and one that's trying to go UTR.

[DarkManticoreX2]

Ugh I hit post not preview Ugh

more to come.

[mellon_collie]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Sorry, Post #538 is just bad logic. I don't even think it can be just down to a simple matter of opinion.

Manti -> Jub/Raeko -> Round ->WV it is then

Did you put me and Jub in the same spot just because I town read him...? I'm lost

[MixMasterLar]

Literally no one reading the thread thinks I have nothing outside of my vote on you, Manti; I literally have a Lynch Order with interactions/reasoning for it. But keep being salty you're on top of the list I guess.

Originally Posted by mellon_collie

Did you put me and Jub in the same spot just because I town read him...? I'm lost

Naw, just bumping you up to the second slot without lowering them down. That is a funny coincidence tho

[DarkManticoreX2]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Literally no one reading the thread thinks I have nothing outside of my vote on you, Manti; I literally have a Lynch Order with interactions/reasoning for it. But keep being salty you're on top of the list I guess.




Naw, just bumping you up to the second slot without lowering them down. That is a funny coincidence tho

Your Lynch order is "People who don't see what I see" it's that basic

Your town reads are "people who agree with me" it's that basic.

[DarkManticoreX2]

Anyway putting MML on Ignore temporarily because if I get into another argue fest with him I just wont get anything done.

[bugkid666]

manti is tunneling more than anyone else right now. i like freezin's posts a lot. i like raeko's reentry but not sold on her yet. i would like wv to speak on anything that's happened more recently. maybe even a reads list?

for now, i think it is worth solving manti today

[Charu]

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

Anyways I took a break last night because ping ponging intentional misrepresentations from MML was getting tedious.

TBH the back and fourth with him reminds me of old active Charu as a wolf. Charu would sometimes just dig at a target in thread by misrepresenting posts and nitpicking at basic things till either him or his target died, and that's exactly what MML is doing here. He's digging in on a revenge vote from D1 and just refusing to expand his primary voting horizons outside of that because if he leaves his tunnel he loses his momentum.


MML's entire strategy currently is "if you agree with me you're town and if you don't you're wolf".

Look at his Town reads: Bug, Freezin and Charu, If you vote for me or even indicate you want to vote for me you can get a townread from MML. Just basic pocketing. If you have any other ideas He wants to Lynch you. He's literally making it that black and white. Charu and freezin have both been lackluster and I think are bad reads. At least Bug had some reasoning.

Charu has been super agreeable with everything and seems slightly afraid to make enemies and I kinda hate it. I get the arm injury might be limiting his posting but it shouldn't be affecting his temperament. He likes MML's argument but doesn't really add to it, nods in agreement to it but doesn't pursue anything. He's like a MML shadow yes man. Of course MML likes him. If MML is somehow town and just sitting in a brutal tunnel, Charu is the yesman wolf backing him up.

Freezin's thread impact has been low. MML even notes this but puts him on the I can solve him later train:

Honestly I would love to make posts where it's essay long, but I don't have the patience for that on a phone. Doing multi-quotes is impossible, lol.

Anyways, I get your read on me now. Of course my answer is I'm town, but yeah!

I suppose my other wolf read is Wayward, not a fan of their reentrance.

Wayward

[bugkid666]

for the record, i have no clue what to make of roundbox. jub seems town to me, albeit i really don't agree with his take on mml/manti.

if mml is a wolf he is pocketing me hardcore

[Charu]

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

Anyway putting MML on Ignore temporarily because if I get into another argue fest with him I just wont get anything done.

Now that's rude...

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

Your Lynch order is "People who don't see what I see" it's that basic

Your town reads are "people who agree with me" it's that basic.

If you have a player who you believe is wolf, and you can't really see how anyone is justified saying otherwise, you'd want to solve that player first and you'd want to solve those others should he flip red

On the flip side, if people agree with you and are not showing any red flags, you don't send votes their way before you solve the players who -are- flashing warning signs.

Or put another way, I didn't type townreads I typed Lynch order since I know you like to be semantic about wordings.

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

Anyway putting MML on Ignore temporarily because if I get into another argue fest with him I just wont get anything done.

Literally against the rules but ok

Originally Posted by bugkid666

manti is tunneling more than anyone else right now. i like freezin's posts a lot. i like raeko's reentry but not sold on her yet. i would like wv to speak on anything that's happened more recently. maybe even a reads list?

for now, i think it is worth solving manti today

Why do you like Raeko's reentry? What about it makes her look better?

[MixMasterLar]

Charu, Wayward isn't a viable lynch this phase. There's no justification for voting him over some of the oth I mean Manti really there's no justification for letting Manti go another phase.

[mellon_collie]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

If you have a player who you believe is wolf, and you can't really see how anyone is justified saying otherwise, you'd want to solve that player first and you'd want to solve those others should he flip red

How can you simply not see how anyone is justified in saying otherwise? Everyone else has completely different information than you and therefore a different perspective on the game? This is so narrow-minded. Think about it from everyone else's perspective

It makes sense to want to solve your suspicions. It doesn't make sense to not see how other people are justified in questioning your reads. We are playing too

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Literally against the rules but ok

No it isn't? I had FFA on ignore for like a year when I kept getting baited into arguing with him in games

[DarkManticoreX2]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Charu, Wayward isn't a viable lynch this phase. There's no justification for voting him over some of the oth I mean Manti really there's no justification for letting Manti go another phase.

Careful Charu, you're next up on the lynch wagon!

[Charu]

I'm voting him simply to see what others feel, tbh

Not expecting a wagon to build, but it's one I wouldn't mind