Style Ranking (Profile Feature)

[freakysnots]

Arg.. Another pointless statistic.

[Zageron]

Who cares if it gets distorted. It doesn't matter, they are only cheating themselves. OMFG I'm a one hander and my Average rank is 1.234235

yeah ****ing right....

[freakysnots]

The thing is who the **** care about how many hands you use to play the song.

I don't care even if you are using one finger.

[DarkbearX]

Originally Posted by Zageron

Who cares if it gets distorted.

Um, yeah. If it was distorted, what would even be the point of the list?

Originally Posted by Zageron

It doesn't matter, they are only cheating themselves. OMFG I'm a one hander and my Average rank is 1.234235

yeah ****ing right....

You're making it seem as if it'd be so obvious if someone is BSing their style of play.

It wouldn't be after a while.

There's no reason for this.

[Zageron]

Then why is there a reason for regional rankings? It's the same aspect.

[purebloodtexan]

Until I stopped playing, part of my pride was getting [what I thought were] decent scores while playing with one hand. This whole ranking thing would basically say, "I'm really good as far as one-handed people go, but I'm not as good at FFR."

Not that many people care about what style you play, but how well you play.

[devonin]

I think about the only people who want to see this are the people who don't play spread, and know they can't get onto the normal highscore lists with the style they play.

[tuanxdjboi]

support

[purebloodtexan]

Originally Posted by tuanxdjboi

support

Did you read the entire thread before you posted this?

[FlameFalco]

Originally Posted by devonin

I think about the only people who want to see this are the people who don't play spread, and know they can't get onto the normal highscore lists with the style they play.

But I play spread and I would like this idea to be put up. It doesn't necessarily have to be a ranking but an option in your profile where you put up how you play ffr. I also think it would be helpful in sorting out profiles of people who play ffr and who don't.

[purebloodtexan]

Originally Posted by FlameFalco

But I play spread and I would like this idea to be put up. It doesn't necessarily have to be a ranking but an option in your profile where you put up how you play ffr. I also think it would be helpful in sorting out profiles of people who play ffr and who don't.

Why would it matter what style you play? In the long run, noone really cares about your style, only how well you play.

Although I'll give you credit for not supporting the whole rank system.

[devonin]

If you want people to know what style you play, you have multiple spots in your profile where you could specify which style you prefer/use.

I can think of no reason to make an actual coded rank system for styles. If you're the best two fingers, one toe and a stick player in the game, but your overall ranking is still 50,000th, I don't think you should be at the top of a list.

If you can't get better than most at your style, either be content to not be better than most, or work on a different style.

[FlameFalco]

Yes I know you can mention it in your profile but it would be more of a convenience if it was a coded feature. If you happen to come across someone that is good and ask for advice(what songs did you play, what speed mods do you use, etc.) and then find out they have a different playing style it seems like a waste.

It doesn't have to rank people, it would just separate people into groups. And I doubt anyone plays with a stick lmao.

[Xandertrax]

123.7% Support.

Too bad too many people will put themselves at 1 hand just to make them look better.

P.S. You forgot 1 hand, 1 finger.

[Zageron]

Updated.
Back.

[Fading.Whisper]

That would be sweet.

[devonin]

Originally Posted by FlameFalco

Yes I know you can mention it in your profile but it would be more of a convenience if it was a coded feature. If you happen to come across someone that is good and ask for advice(what songs did you play, what speed mods do you use, etc.) and then find out they have a different playing style it seems like a waste.

If you're going to accost a random stranger for help in getting better, "what style do you use" seems like a logical first question to me.

It doesn't have to rank people, it would just separate people into groups. And I doubt anyone plays with a stick lmao.

It does according to the OP who is trying to get some silly percentage worth of support for his idea.

[snow2skate]

Support +1

[spinal_compression]

Didn't bother to read replies to the thread...

This is a complete waste of time. I play spread AND index where's my ranking? I could easily play some songs one handed and get on that list.

I saw the words regional ranking. This would be NOTHING like that. This is a crap way to say that you're X rank of the ONE HANDERS.

FFR was made to play your own way. But that doesn't mean your own way should be seperated from the rest.

[Dronak]

Short response: yes, I like the idea and would like to see it done. I'm using Zageron's thread now, but something more official would be nicer. I have my doubts as to whether it *will* be done though.

Longer response with explanations of my view:
I like the idea, and since they already do a variety of rankings, hopefully it wouldn't be a stress on the system to add some others. If it's done using a profile entry like regional rankings, of course people can lie to make themselves look better, but they can already do that with regional rankings and I don't remember people complaining about that.

True, in general how well you play the game, regardless of style, is one of the main things people are interested in. But there are multiple ways to measure this -- grand totals, average or individual song ranks, and the newer tier point stats. A number of things can affect how well you play, and style is one of them. I think it's a factor that's worth considering.

Often when someone asks how to get better, many responses say switch to playing with two hands. It's commonly accepted that you can get better faster playing two-handed and that one-handed players are at a disadvantage, hampering their ability to reach the very top ranks. It's my understanding (but I could be wrong), that the best one-handers are usually noticeably behind the best two-handers. If there's such a strong division between two or more playing styles, why not offer a way to distinguish between them in the rankings? Maybe you're not a top player overall, but are one of the top in your particular playing style. Would that be nice to know? I think so, which is why I joined the list in Zageron's thread. Similar to the way regional rankings tell you how good you are compared to people in your local area of the world, this ranking would tell you how good you are compared to others who play the game in the same way you do. Yes, there is potential to do all sorts of stats for comparison -- age groups, membership duration (how long you've played), games played, etc. -- but we wouldn't and shouldn't consider everything, just the ones that many people want to see. If this has enough support, it may be worth considering to satisfy the user demand.

As for changing styles, typically people will do this to improve more and/or faster, which I believe usually means going from one-handed to two-handed. You might get worse when you first make the switch, but if you stick with it, you should get better. I've heard this a lot, so it seems to be commonly accepted as fact, as far as I can tell. Therefore, people who switch shouldn't end up playing worse than they did before. They should improve and get into an appropriate place in the rankings of the new style. And if for some reason you really did get worse, wouldn't you just go back to your old style and have an appropriate ranking again? If you frequently switch styles, well, that's harder to know how to place; maybe pick what you use most often? I didn't think that was commonly done.

So while I like the idea, I'm not sure it will get implemented. I just have this feeling that either it won't get enough support or the admins will veto it for some reason. Zageron's thread may be the best we can do, but I guess we'll see.