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View Poll Results: What should be done with the Legacy genre?
Leave the genre and ranks exactly how it is 25 31.65%
Move the legacy songs into the token ranks 8 10.13%
Make an entirely new legacy level rank statistic 32 40.51%
Combine options 3 & 4 5 6.33%
Remove them from the game entirely 3 3.80%
It doesn't bother me either way 6 7.59%
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Old 08-27-2012, 11:59 PM   #41
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oh shit nice title mate congrats, but agreed haha
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Old 08-28-2012, 12:03 AM   #42
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Remove from ranks because they are gimmicky and poorly stepped. Remain in game for the sake of history and nostalgia. Token for taking on the challenge.
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Old 08-28-2012, 12:05 AM   #43
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Token for taking on the challenge.
I could see this. Pass all could be a token, and FC all legacy genre files could be another. AAA all of them though would be bullshit (even though I've done it).

I do support achievement-type rewards, so it could be applied to legacy.
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Old 08-28-2012, 12:05 AM   #44
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I would be in favor of having a token that changed color as you improved it. For example, it could start bronze for playing them all, turn silver for SDGs, then gold for all AAA's. There could also be a token for AAAing your first synth file or other such milestones.

I actually agree to this and wouldnt mind if they werent public if this happened. lol
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Old 08-28-2012, 01:54 AM   #45
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I would be in favor of having a token that changed color as you improved it. For example, it could start bronze for playing them all, turn silver for SDGs, then gold for all AAA's. There could also be a token for AAAing your first synth file or other such milestones.

But yes, I think they should be out of public ranking.
Being out of public ranking would be great, especially for those who are new to the site, so that way they don't have to worry about annoying off-sync BNS files, or think that they ever have to AAA them.

I would imagine that this token would be excluding Revolutionary etude at the very least, considering the large gap between this file and the rest in the legacy genre. Chances are that if it isn't excluded, almost no one would achieve beyond the FC requirement. Obviously the AAA portion is possible with revo, but it would pretty much be Dossar exclusive for a long time (and even SDG is still pretty ridiculous with revo in the mix really).

Also for anyone not wanting this change because they worked hard on Legacy files: I worked hard on them as well, but I'm not going to hinder the progression of this site because of something selfish like that. RunnyMornings (SGX mix) is probably one of my most lucky and awesome AAA's, but that accomplishment won't vanish just because it's removed from public level ranks. All it means is that now people won't have to try and play / AAA these files to improve their average ranks (meaning less frustration for players who want to improve their stats). They can stay on FFR for historical reasons as long as that is ALL they are here for, and don't effect anyone's ranks.

Although if they are removed from level ranks, this shouldn't mean they they remove the top 200 leaderboard for the songs or anything.
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Old 08-28-2012, 02:26 AM   #46
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If something does happen to the Legacy Files...

Make sure some of the files under Purchased and Secret be dealt with too. I'm sure you guys know that though.

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Being out of public ranking would be great, especially for those who are new to the site, so that way they don't have to worry about annoying off-sync BNS files, or think that they ever have to AAA them.
Yes.

If a newer player goes into legacy and sees horribly offsync files with random steps, that player is probably going to think: What the hell? I thought this was a RHYTHM game. Why is it all blue arrows? What is with "legacy"? Do these really count towards public ranks?

As much as I could be like "hey I actually worked for these AAAs blah blah blah" some things to consider are:
- It is incredibly asinine to be wanting to have crappy files to your advantage.
- Never wanting to play the songs again after AAAing them. The funnest legacy files I've seen are Beethoven Virus, Secret Zombie Room, and One Minute Waltz. Even then, I don't feel like playing them again. I have basically just ignored the legacy genre now ever since I've AAA'd it.

Because I know people don't want their work to just "go to waste" tokens/achievements can be rewarded. Ever wonder why token songs like Rudi the Techno Pioneer are basically deserted? There is very little incentive to play those files in the first place.
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Old 08-28-2012, 08:57 PM   #48
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So far the vote is 15 to keep them in the ranks and 28 to take them out. Anyone else who has yet to vote, weigh in!
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Old 08-29-2012, 08:51 AM   #49
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well there's a degree I'd like to remove these shit files from the level ranks (btw keep the files they aren't just history, they are part of FFR and files we all played for years, nostalgia too) and I'd also like to get rev etude out of the ranks but some of these aren't that dumb and I'd hate to see Molto Vivace and OMW removed from level ranks. They are hard songs I still strive for good rankings on and removing these should remove shit like crowdpleaser then too, cause lets be honest half of these are better than crowdpleaser.


I guess I'm for keeping them but removing them from average ranks?
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. Ever wonder why token songs like Rudi the Techno Pioneer are basically deserted? There is very little incentive to play those files in the first place.
That and that particular file is just gay
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I reflect mainly what others said here:

>Keep in-game due to nostalgia
>Remove from Public Level Ranks
>Make separate page for them OR move to token ranks and give out "achievement tokens" for clearing legacy objectives. I am more for the latter.

Seems the most pragmatic solution.
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Old 08-29-2012, 09:09 AM   #52
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I would really like to see an entirely new section of levelranks just for legacy files, but if they got added to the token ranks, I wouldn't mind either.
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picked combine 3&4 because loop

keep in game, remove from public, basically what i've seen most people say
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I could see this. Pass all could be a token, and FC all legacy genre files could be another. AAA all of them though would be bullshit (even though I've done it).
not again..(nice completely unnecessary, ego stroking parenthesis)

Anybody who makes a token like any of this should be shot on sight. Here, play an entire genre of poorly-stepped files. Here's another poorly-stepped file that nobody will play seriously as your token reward.

The challenge is in the files themselves and slapping a token on top wouldn't have any positive aspect IMO.

I voted leave them as they are. I've said it before.. they're public files and, as such, should have public ranks.
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Old 08-29-2012, 01:09 PM   #55
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Well that's what I'm saying, just because I've done it doesn't mean it should be implemented.
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I think a particular cumulative score across all Synth files would be sufficient
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Old 08-29-2012, 01:39 PM   #57
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how about every time you play a synthlight file, the score screen says "lol why'd you play this"

oh and yeah, take legacy files out of public ranks
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I've said it before.. they're public files and, as such, should have public ranks.
Hey, I have a new idea.

Play one song on your FFR account, and you UNLOCK the Legacy genre with a message saying "These songs are a part of FFR's history! We know they suck."!!!

Move them all to token level ranks now, bam, it all makes sense. They're not public til you play, thus they don't need to be in public ranks.
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super token: play one song unlock fifty. I don't quite think so.
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