Building a New PC.

-Jes- · 05-19-2005, 10:17 PM

Alright. Recently I have discovered that it would be worth it for me to buy a new computer, and build it from scratch.

I am slightly budgeted, but this price (Price dropped to around 884 US Dollars if I remember correctly) I can live with.

This is for gaming, and wanted to get opinions/recommendations, whatever.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822152015 - HardDrive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811105107 - Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103534 - CPU / Processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835106038 - Fan/Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/OldVersion/app...109-119&depa=0 - Heatsink
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813136152 - Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820141423 - RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827106985 - CD Rom
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150078 - Video Card

Let me know what you think. opinions are open.

zildjian133 · 05-19-2005, 11:35 PM

How much is all that worth so far? I don't know much about motherboards but I know 1000MHz FSB is fast... A decent processor speed is 2.0Gigs or more... Honestly you don't need more than 533MHz for your motherboard, but 800MHz is nice. For gaming the video card matters most.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...770261929&rd=1 your motherboard but a few dollars cheaper, make sure to check ebay, they usually always have things cheaper, I just looked for like 5 seconds and found this...

Way better deal for the processor:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...768966347&rd=1

-Jes- · 05-20-2005, 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zildjian133

How much is all that worth so far? I don't know much about motherboards but I know 1000MHz FSB is fast... A decent processor speed is 2.0Gigs or more... Honestly you don't need more than 533MHz for your motherboard, but 800MHz is nice. For gaming the video card matters most.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...770261929&rd=1 your motherboard but a few dollars cheaper, make sure to check ebay, they usually always have things cheaper, I just looked for like 5 seconds and found this...

Way better deal for the processor:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...768966347&rd=1

See, that processor I would use, but currently I have 2 setups.

1-a 754 PIN motherboard with a 24 PIN PSU
2-a 954 (I Believe) MB With a 24 Pin PSU

I might scope around ebay a little, as I have a month or two before I build this computer.

It's worth about 930 bucks, and im 'thinking' about changing the Power Supply Unit'. Then everything else is good in my eyes.

I think I have a few things to edit, so check back-think I changed it all around.

veranica · 05-20-2005, 01:28 PM

If you want to get more ram in the future to reach the 4gb that the mb lets you get, I recomend getting a 1 stick gb so that you won't end up having to buy so much. Unless you are really into computers and will just use it for another machine.

Mindfields · 05-20-2005, 01:45 PM

How vital is the power supply? I want to know if I should cheap out on it or not to save money.

EDIT
http://compreviews.about.com/od/case...erSupplies.htm
There you go, I found it very helpful, although I don't know what size tower I'm going to have by the time I get a new computer. Any recommendations on tower size?
Another Question:
If a tower comes with a power supply, is it safe to switch it out with a different Power Supply unit?

veranica · 05-20-2005, 01:56 PM

When I made my computer I always got a tower that had a power supply in it. If you do a search on google, you could find out how much each part wants, but for the most part, if they sell it its going to be enough.

tnyhwk900 · 05-20-2005, 02:06 PM

OKAY, DON'T LISTEN TO ANYONE ELSE AND TAKE THE FOLLOWING ADVICE.

First off, you rule for buying from Newegg. They rock.

Okay, for the most part it looks like a decent rig for the price. Why the hell are you putting all of that cooling gear on a 3200+? Unless you're planning on overclocking it to 4000+ speeds, you don't need that big of a cooler on it. And if you aren't planning on doing so, I suggest dropping the PS to about 400-450 watts.

One more thing: Don't get an IDE harddrive. Go for an SATA. I know, they may be $10 more, but it is so worth it. I'm serious. If you get two and put them in a RAID 0 array, you won't be able to comprehend the speed difference between one IDE HDD.

Hope this helps!

Anticrombie0909 · 05-20-2005, 02:27 PM

Tnyhwk's damn right about your HDD. You don't want the MAIN THING THAT STORES EVERYTHING to be slow, now do you?

Quote:

I suggest dropping the PS to about 400-450 watts.

Well...if you're really, really tight on cash you can, but otherwise I'd say stick with what you have. The best guideline for how much power you should get? More than you think you'll ever need, because you'll probably end up needing it. And a shitty or weak PSU can bog down your whole system.

-Jes- · 05-20-2005, 05:35 PM

Ive done a little searching.

The case I picked out (Looked around) comes with a 500 watt power supply, so im gonna drop that from the list.

I will be doing a LITTLE Overclocking, but not too much to fry the system.

Hard-Drives, i'll take Your advice TnyHwk900 and look around.

I am going to edit the first post now and show the updated hardware.

I am a bit tight on money, as this is taking a month and a half to save for, but I think it's worth it.

tnyhwk900 · 05-20-2005, 07:05 PM

Here.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822152015

1) It's by Samsung, easily the best HDD maker.

2) It has 8 MB cache compared to the 2 MB on your pick. More cache= faster read/write times, and 2 to 8 MB has a significant boost in speed.

3) IT'S SATA BABY, YEAH!

4) It's 160 GB, the same amount that you had earlier.

5) It's only $20 more.

Get it. I'm serious.

-Jes- · 05-20-2005, 07:19 PM

Consider it bought.

Thank you tnyhwk900. Much appreciated.

Anticrombie0909 · 05-20-2005, 08:11 PM

Quote:

It's by Samsung, easily the best HDD maker.

I beg to differ. Western Digital could take Samsung any day.

Mindfields · 05-21-2005, 02:15 PM

Message edited, please read and respond.

VxDx · 05-21-2005, 02:20 PM

why are you getting the venus 12 AND another heatsink?

QreepyBORIS · 05-21-2005, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anticrombie0909

Quote:

It's by Samsung, easily the best HDD maker.

I beg to differ. Western Digital could take Samsung any day.

Once Hitachi comes out with their new perpendicular stuff, it's all about them.

Well, maybe not for computers, but certainly for smaller devices.

tnyhwk900 · 05-21-2005, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anticrombie0909

Quote:

It's by Samsung, easily the best HDD maker.

I beg to differ. Western Digital could take Samsung any day.

PLEASE tell me you've read the horror stories about the whine-and-die WDs. Only days after installation, they let out a whine, then die.

Now, if you get lucky and don't have a faulty Raptor, then yeah those are pretty good XD

VxDx · 05-21-2005, 04:11 PM

I've had 4 Western Digitals that never died. Even Samsungs die though. What about Seagate? Maxtor?

Samsung isn't the best, but arguing about that would be pretty pointless.

Anticrombie0909 · 05-21-2005, 10:44 PM

Yeah, WD really doesn't die, yet it doesn't matter if they do, since they've got a standard three year warranty.

WD > yeah

-Jes- · 05-22-2005, 07:15 PM

Links have been bumped, and ALMOST Finalized.

I'm going to wait until Wednsday at 12AM Eastern Standard time. if NO Chances are Suggestions, the Computer Hardware WILL BE FINALIZED And WILL NOT CHANGE UNLESS COMPATIBILITY IS AN ERROR

So, suggestions, are taken, until Wednsday, 12 AM Eastern Standard time.

VxDx · 05-22-2005, 07:53 PM

once again, why do you have the venus 12 AND another heatsink? also, do you know how to install a heatsink properly / do you have much experience with putting a computer together?

05-19-2005, 10:17 PM	#1
-Jes- FFR Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 19	Building a New PC. Alright. Recently I have discovered that it would be worth it for me to buy a new computer, and build it from scratch. I am slightly budgeted, but this price (Price dropped to around 884 US Dollars if I remember correctly) I can live with. This is for gaming, and wanted to get opinions/recommendations, whatever. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822152015 - HardDrive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811105107 - Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103534 - CPU / Processor http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835106038 - Fan/Cooler http://www.newegg.com/OldVersion/app...109-119&depa=0 - Heatsink http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813136152 - Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820141423 - RAM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16827106985 - CD Rom http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814150078 - Video Card Let me know what you think. opinions are open.

05-19-2005, 11:35 PM	#2
zildjian133 FFR Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: LOMG LOCATION@HERE Posts: 1,138	RE: Building a New PC. How much is all that worth so far? I don't know much about motherboards but I know 1000MHz FSB is fast... A decent processor speed is 2.0Gigs or more... Honestly you don't need more than 533MHz for your motherboard, but 800MHz is nice. For gaming the video card matters most. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...770261929&rd=1 your motherboard but a few dollars cheaper, make sure to check ebay, they usually always have things cheaper, I just looked for like 5 seconds and found this... Way better deal for the processor: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...768966347&rd=1 __________________

05-20-2005, 01:28 PM	#4
veranica FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 76	RE: Re: RE: Building a New PC. If you want to get more ram in the future to reach the 4gb that the mb lets you get, I recomend getting a 1 stick gb so that you won't end up having to buy so much. Unless you are really into computers and will just use it for another machine.

05-20-2005, 01:45 PM	#5
Mindfields Banned Join Date: Dec 2004 Age: 32 Posts: 1,566	RE: Re: RE: Building a New PC. How vital is the power supply? I want to know if I should cheap out on it or not to save money. EDIT http://compreviews.about.com/od/case...erSupplies.htm There you go, I found it very helpful, although I don't know what size tower I'm going to have by the time I get a new computer. Any recommendations on tower size? Another Question: If a tower comes with a power supply, is it safe to switch it out with a different Power Supply unit?

05-20-2005, 01:56 PM	#6
veranica FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 76	RE: Re: RE: Building a New PC. When I made my computer I always got a tower that had a power supply in it. If you do a search on google, you could find out how much each part wants, but for the most part, if they sell it its going to be enough.

05-20-2005, 02:06 PM	#7
tnyhwk900 FFR Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: in your pocket Age: 33 Posts: 4,106	RE: Re: RE: Building a New PC. OKAY, DON'T LISTEN TO ANYONE ELSE AND TAKE THE FOLLOWING ADVICE. First off, you rule for buying from Newegg. They rock. Okay, for the most part it looks like a decent rig for the price. Why the hell are you putting all of that cooling gear on a 3200+? Unless you're planning on overclocking it to 4000+ speeds, you don't need that big of a cooler on it. And if you aren't planning on doing so, I suggest dropping the PS to about 400-450 watts. One more thing: Don't get an IDE harddrive. Go for an SATA. I know, they may be $10 more, but it is so worth it. I'm serious. If you get two and put them in a RAID 0 array, you won't be able to comprehend the speed difference between one IDE HDD. Hope this helps! __________________

05-20-2005, 05:35 PM	#9
-Jes- FFR Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 19	Ive done a little searching. The case I picked out (Looked around) comes with a 500 watt power supply, so im gonna drop that from the list. I will be doing a LITTLE Overclocking, but not too much to fry the system. Hard-Drives, i'll take Your advice TnyHwk900 and look around. I am going to edit the first post now and show the updated hardware. I am a bit tight on money, as this is taking a month and a half to save for, but I think it's worth it.

05-20-2005, 07:05 PM	#10
tnyhwk900 FFR Player Join Date: May 2003 Location: in your pocket Age: 33 Posts: 4,106	Here. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822152015 1) It's by Samsung, easily the best HDD maker. 2) It has 8 MB cache compared to the 2 MB on your pick. More cache= faster read/write times, and 2 to 8 MB has a significant boost in speed. 3) IT'S SATA BABY, YEAH! 4) It's 160 GB, the same amount that you had earlier. 5) It's only $20 more. Get it. I'm serious. __________________

05-20-2005, 07:19 PM	#11
-Jes- FFR Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 19	Consider it bought. Thank you tnyhwk900. Much appreciated.

05-21-2005, 02:15 PM	#13
Mindfields Banned Join Date: Dec 2004 Age: 32 Posts: 1,566	Message edited, please read and respond.

05-21-2005, 02:20 PM	#14
VxDx FFR Player Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,871	why are you getting the venus 12 AND another heatsink?

05-21-2005, 04:11 PM	#17
VxDx FFR Player Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,871	I've had 4 Western Digitals that never died. Even Samsungs die though. What about Seagate? Maxtor? Samsung isn't the best, but arguing about that would be pretty pointless.

05-21-2005, 10:44 PM	#18
Anticrombie0909 FFR Player Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4,683	Yeah, WD really doesn't die, yet it doesn't matter if they do, since they've got a standard three year warranty. WD > yeah

05-22-2005, 07:15 PM	#19
-Jes- FFR Player Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 19	Links have been bumped, and ALMOST Finalized. I'm going to wait until Wednsday at 12AM Eastern Standard time. if NO Chances are Suggestions, the Computer Hardware WILL BE FINALIZED And WILL NOT CHANGE UNLESS COMPATIBILITY IS AN ERROR So, suggestions, are taken, until Wednsday, 12 AM Eastern Standard time.

05-22-2005, 07:53 PM	#20
VxDx FFR Player Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 1,871	once again, why do you have the venus 12 AND another heatsink? also, do you know how to install a heatsink properly / do you have much experience with putting a computer together?

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