Is my song really that bad?

**Mans0n** · 12-4-2008, 09:32 AM

This is the newest song ive made. I've been using fruity loops for almost 6 months now, and ive got to say ive learned that it has many capabilities. This song shows how much better ive gotten compared to my first songs. so please give me criticism and advice.
http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/191860
Im just wanting to know because it got 0 bombed which I hate.

bluguerrilla · 12-4-2008, 09:34 AM

Yes. (brb listening)

No it's not terrible but for this type of music it needs to go somewhere and not be so... Ordinary.

Elaboration:

Put more effort into the drums /ilistentobreakbeat

Do more with that synth /kindaboring

Make it longer and do some sort of actual progression. The feeling of the song is just sort of... droning.

**Mans0n** · 12-4-2008, 09:38 AM

Im still adding on to it. synths and whatnot. the bass gets tiring after a while.have to go to school right now so ill be back after school to work on it. even though ive added stuff already.
anyways bye ffr.

**DJSBX** · 12-4-2008, 11:03 AM

wtf thats horrible advice.
People wont learn unless other people tell them what they are doing wrong or what they can improve on. When youve just started, the best idea is to release everything and if people are willing to listen, they can give advice.

bluguerrilla · 12-4-2008, 12:10 PM

I don't think he dislikes it.

He got bad ratings and wants to know if people think it's actually bad, etc.

**championanwar** · 12-4-2008, 12:47 PM

I like it. It would be a good game. I'd add some vocals (like from a movie and stuff). For a start, it sounds really good. It has potential, hope to hear more from it later on

**Mans0n** · 12-4-2008, 06:46 PM

And yeah bluguerrilla i just wanted to know if people actually thought it was that bad.
and me myself personally like all my songs. since i made them. and im look for critisicm and things i can improve on.

Zybanthia · 12-4-2008, 06:51 PM

Well, like bluguerrilla said, it needs to go somewhere. I second that suggestion. Essentially, your songs is a 7 second loop repeated for a minute and a half; any significant change would be interesting. Perhaps gradually increase the tempo over a couple measures, and then do something completely new with the melody using the techno synth.

**Mans0n** · 12-4-2008, 06:56 PM

well after the buildup i play the main bass again then I added a background/leadish type melody to go with it. and the buildup is pretty much the low cut filter sweep.

**Adamaja456** · 12-4-2008, 07:02 PM

its not that bad. but its also not that great.

I would suggest playing around more with FL. maybe watch some tutorials on aspects you dont know yet.
Create differently melodies that are strong and compliment the percussion. that might help the overall feeling of the song.

**Cyanite** · 12-4-2008, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mans0n

well after the buildup i play the main bass again then I added a background/leadish type melody to go with it. and the buildup is pretty much the low cut filter sweep.

Filter sweeps and stuff are things that make a song interesting, not things that drive a song. Your melody was the same note repeating over and over again as well, not very interesting.

I had problems with this when I started too, so I can't criticize you for it, but try and make your music as varied as possible. Add new sections, change up the old ones, and try to do things with your music that keep people wanting to listen to it. Obviously it's not a realistic goal since you're still new to this, but try to make it a long-term goal.

**d4u7211** · 12-4-2008, 09:22 PM

yeah, add some more drum beats (try not to repeat so much with the drum beats), and change the synth up a little bit every now and then, try adding one more layer of sound in there. if youre looking to making it more than 2 minutes id definitely say itd be required to change the synth patterns and add another layer of sound to direct attention elsewhere. i like music that has multiple layers of sounds that gradually add in so that my attention is directed somewhere else instead of listening to the same sounds over and over, like a little surprise. just my opinion.

**Mans0n** · 12-5-2008, 08:55 PM

thanks for the help guys. Im still new to music making, but I will learn eventually.
I added another synth, the melody is really long , and i can't quite find a good drum beat to go with it.

**championanwar** · 12-6-2008, 09:57 AM

Upload the new one?

**Mans0n** · 12-6-2008, 04:00 PM

Yes i will upoad the new version of it, which is 4 mins now. in about 30 minutes or so, I need to make a few more changes.

alexdestructions · 12-6-2008, 04:10 PM

Song isn't that bad. But you should put some more melodies into it, the song has too much of the same melody.

**Mans0n** · 12-6-2008, 04:21 PM

ok im making a new thread for this new version of it.
it sounds alot different and extremely better.
i think this is the finished version.

12-4-2008, 09:32 AM	#1
Mans0n Sun and Stars Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Central Californ.i.a. Age: 29 Posts: 2,907	Is my song really that bad? This is the newest song ive made. I've been using fruity loops for almost 6 months now, and ive got to say ive learned that it has many capabilities. This song shows how much better ive gotten compared to my first songs. so please give me criticism and advice. http://www.newgrounds.com/audio/listen/191860 Im just wanting to know because it got 0 bombed which I hate. __________________ http://www.facebook.com/?ref=logo#!/Br0wnbread Check out my band profile and give it a like! :P

12-4-2008, 09:34 AM	#2
bluguerrilla FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Age: 41 Posts: 3,966	Re: Is my song really that bad? Yes. (brb listening) No it's not terrible but for this type of music it needs to go somewhere and not be so... Ordinary. Elaboration: Put more effort into the drums /ilistentobreakbeat Do more with that synth /kindaboring Make it longer and do some sort of actual progression. The feeling of the song is just sort of... droning. __________________ Last edited by bluguerrilla; 12-4-2008 at 09:38 AM..

12-4-2008, 09:38 AM	#3
Mans0n Sun and Stars Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Central Californ.i.a. Age: 29 Posts: 2,907	Re: Is my song really that bad? Im still adding on to it. synths and whatnot. the bass gets tiring after a while.have to go to school right now so ill be back after school to work on it. even though ive added stuff already. anyways bye ffr. __________________ http://www.facebook.com/?ref=logo#!/Br0wnbread Check out my band profile and give it a like! :P Last edited by Mans0n; 12-4-2008 at 09:41 AM..

12-4-2008, 11:03 AM	#4
DJSBX FFR Music Producers Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba Age: 36 Posts: 514	Re: Is my song really that bad? wtf thats horrible advice. People wont learn unless other people tell them what they are doing wrong or what they can improve on. When youve just started, the best idea is to release everything and if people are willing to listen, they can give advice. __________________ Check Out My website! http://www.djsbx.com

12-4-2008, 12:10 PM	#5
bluguerrilla FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2006 Age: 41 Posts: 3,966	Re: Is my song really that bad? I don't think he dislikes it. He got bad ratings and wants to know if people think it's actually bad, etc. __________________

12-4-2008, 06:46 PM	#7
Mans0n Sun and Stars Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Central Californ.i.a. Age: 29 Posts: 2,907	Re: Is my song really that bad? And yeah bluguerrilla i just wanted to know if people actually thought it was that bad. and me myself personally like all my songs. since i made them. and im look for critisicm and things i can improve on. __________________ http://www.facebook.com/?ref=logo#!/Br0wnbread Check out my band profile and give it a like! :P

12-4-2008, 06:51 PM	#8
Zybanthia FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 809	Re: Is my song really that bad? Well, like bluguerrilla said, it needs to go somewhere. I second that suggestion. Essentially, your songs is a 7 second loop repeated for a minute and a half; any significant change would be interesting. Perhaps gradually increase the tempo over a couple measures, and then do something completely new with the melody using the techno synth.

12-4-2008, 06:56 PM	#9
Mans0n Sun and Stars Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Central Californ.i.a. Age: 29 Posts: 2,907	Re: Is my song really that bad? well after the buildup i play the main bass again then I added a background/leadish type melody to go with it. and the buildup is pretty much the low cut filter sweep. __________________ http://www.facebook.com/?ref=logo#!/Br0wnbread Check out my band profile and give it a like! :P

12-4-2008, 07:02 PM	#10
Adamaja456 Absurd Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: 31 Billion Club, WA Age: 33 Posts: 6,433	Re: Is my song really that bad? its not that bad. but its also not that great. I would suggest playing around more with FL. maybe watch some tutorials on aspects you dont know yet. Create differently melodies that are strong and compliment the percussion. that might help the overall feeling of the song. __________________ 582 Tier Points(Tier 3) 602 AAAs(517+23+62) People who bought me subscriptions/tokens: DrugstoreCowboy(1 month) ELRayford(3 months) ~GJampa(3 months) Jerry DB(3 months) 4th place in Gamewhore Competition(3 months) Phynx(FGJ album and Dendrite V2) dragon890x(1 year) Slide(1 year)

12-4-2008, 09:22 PM	#12
d4u7211 Aficionado of Awk Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Wherever my computer is Age: 30 Posts: 1,276	Re: Is my song really that bad? yeah, add some more drum beats (try not to repeat so much with the drum beats), and change the synth up a little bit every now and then, try adding one more layer of sound in there. if youre looking to making it more than 2 minutes id definitely say itd be required to change the synth patterns and add another layer of sound to direct attention elsewhere. i like music that has multiple layers of sounds that gradually add in so that my attention is directed somewhere else instead of listening to the same sounds over and over, like a little surprise. just my opinion. __________________ Hardpain of Hell RELEASED!!!

12-5-2008, 08:55 PM	#13
Mans0n Sun and Stars Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Central Californ.i.a. Age: 29 Posts: 2,907	Re: Is my song really that bad? thanks for the help guys. Im still new to music making, but I will learn eventually. I added another synth, the melody is really long , and i can't quite find a good drum beat to go with it. __________________ http://www.facebook.com/?ref=logo#!/Br0wnbread Check out my band profile and give it a like! :P

12-6-2008, 04:00 PM	#15
Mans0n Sun and Stars Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Central Californ.i.a. Age: 29 Posts: 2,907	Re: Is my song really that bad? Yes i will upoad the new version of it, which is 4 mins now. in about 30 minutes or so, I need to make a few more changes. __________________ http://www.facebook.com/?ref=logo#!/Br0wnbread Check out my band profile and give it a like! :P

12-6-2008, 04:21 PM	#17
Mans0n Sun and Stars Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Central Californ.i.a. Age: 29 Posts: 2,907	Re: Is my song really that bad? ok im making a new thread for this new version of it. it sounds alot different and extremely better. i think this is the finished version. __________________ http://www.facebook.com/?ref=logo#!/Br0wnbread Check out my band profile and give it a like! :P

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