Goodbye Framers!

[-Yukari-]

Can always add something about avmisses players in this thread :)

[Ryusei_]

Also:
Hai Blazze

[dore]

The staff already said they were going to keep 2nd Style around after 3rd Style came out. My argument is they need to make the separation now, rather than bastardize the scores of the entire life of 2nd Style in a short transition period that will lead to a separate 2nd and 3rd Style anyway. Removing avmisses is removing the defining, score-limiting "feature" of 2nd Style.

[Ryusei_]

Originally Posted by dore

Removing avmisses is removing the defining, score-limiting "feature" of 2nd Style.

That's my argument right there. You're acting like removing avemisses is like removing a feature...And you simply can't do that because it is 100% NOT a feature.

[6 p01nt3d*st@r]

Hopefully they put harder songs in soon.=\

[TS_SonicMaster]

I agree with Ryusei, it's not a feature, it is a glitch.

Av-misses aren't even that hard to avoid really, well for me at least, I only miss because of bs lag whenever playing FFR.

Oh and here's something else:

Jacks with av-misses = pretty hard
Jacks without = still hard

Makes a little difference except for timing, which relies ON the person playing, now that they'll be/they're gone.

[One Winged Angel]

do not try to take my avmissing away from me, k?

[foilman8805]

Originally Posted by Cosmic M

As for the original question, I am for it in theory, but dosn't it put a taint on all scores from here on out. What do we do with people like Shash, Nima and Bahamut who dont play anymore but accomplished great things. Sure, being inactive is your own fault, hell my avg. rank is way better than Shash's at this point, but we all know who's better. We can't let those people simply be forgotten.

Scottish is currently...well, at least I think he is working on the FFR Hall of Fame for the eras of FFR from 2002-2004, 2004-2007, and 2007+. So all of those people who accomplished amazing things in FFR will be documented and recorded into FFR history - they won't be forgotten. This new time with speed mods, and now no avmisses is definitely a new era for FFR.

Also, as I'm reading this thread, my mind is changing about things.

Originally Posted by dore

The staff already said they were going to keep 2nd Style around after 3rd Style came out. My argument is they need to make the separation now, rather than bastardize the scores of the entire life of 2nd Style in a short transition period that will lead to a separate 2nd and 3rd Style anyway. Removing avmisses is removing the defining, score-limiting "feature" of 2nd Style.

This is so true...I know Ryusei_ disagrees, but the avmisses we've known for the last 5 years have literally become part of the game. For all we know, Synth and Xelius are just testing this feature for future use. I don't know what's going on in the subscriber thread, but for all we know they ARE going to wait until 3rd style to implement it. dore, I believe you're right in saying that it bastardizes the 2nd style scores, but I still believe they (avmisses) need to be removed eventually, just not in 2nd style perhaps?

[rushyrulz]

Originally Posted by -Yukari-

So it's better to play a game that doesn't function correctly?

AMEN

[EAGAMES]

Originally Posted by rushyrulz

AMEN

Lol Rushy...
I got my internet back on my computer after 4 days or so, so I'm back and ready to pwn!
P.S. I still disagree with this update and such things but w/e... *looking at sig*

[customstuff]

LOL

[Linksbro]

Chance for Rubix to AAA every song nao.

[arsonistsgetallthegirls]

Dore is correct.
It is best not to corrupt 2nd style and wait until 3rd style is released.
Beta testing (so scores won't record) however, I'm all in favor of.

+1 for NO.

[Xiaounlimited]

Originally Posted by TS_SonicMaster

Av-misses aren't even that hard to avoid really, well for me at least

OMW, Rev, Molto, DF, FN FCs go

[Fantasticone]

Remember when everybody wanted average misses gone and now people want them to say.

[Coolboyrulez0]

Listen I read the whole thread.
I 100% support the fixing of this. So what if AV is gone and your score is destroyed?
It doesn't mean everyone is gonna go AAA it no... you still have to work for that and with AV gone YOU get an advantage to.

Why wouldnt you want to FIX a GLITCH?
common guys.
use your heads...

btw
77% wins.

[Emo_Saur_]

Originally Posted by -Yukari-

So it's better to play a game that doesn't function correctly?

100% agreed with you.

[TS_SonicMaster]

Originally Posted by Xiaounlimited

OMW, Rev, Molto, DF, FN FCs go

I'm not fast enough to hit those, well FN yes, and Molto almost. I can hit jacks, but even in SM, I miss the 5th/6th arrow 150-180 longer jacks.

[foilman8805]

Originally Posted by Fantasticone

Remember when everybody wanted average misses gone and now people want them to say.

Isn't that amazing?

I don't know...I'm now of the mind that perhaps 2nd style should stay the way it is - and implement this feature in 3rd style...pending 3rd style isn't too far away developmentally.

[GamerShadow]

There should be no hesitation with this. Seriously, everybody who said no is simply too lazy to re-do their scores again. For shame people, just kill the glitch and play the damn songs w/o framers and enjoy.