Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two - COMPLETED - Page 19

**devonin** · 05-7-2008, 06:06 PM

The problem with finding a speed component frusterating is that

a) The rounds with subjective completion chances have no time component. There's no reward for submitting a main song round faster than someone else, you have all tourney to work on them

b) The rounds with a time component are all ones that it is generally expected that everyone will be able to complete. When it's just "Solved" or "Not Solved" if there's no time component, I expect basically everybody to have all the points from all of them, thus rendering them pretty much irrelevant to the overall score in the first place.

The way to correct B) is to make the bonus round with a time component be things that are simply impossible to ever "beat" (Say games without an end to their levels, and the ranking is how far in you can get) or to make them as ridiculously difficult as you can manage to ensure that not everyone is capable of solving them.

I don't really find either alternative especially savoury, so I have a time component to my competition.

Also: Updated.

**Tasselfoot** · 05-7-2008, 06:30 PM

i love devonin. just want to throw that one out there. although i am still pissy about the round 7 bonus situation.

**smartdude1212** · 05-7-2008, 07:21 PM

component

yeah well, me too Tass. Alarms are set for this upcoming round, although it's less likely I'll be awake.

EI_Tizzy · 05-8-2008, 01:32 AM

I'm gonna stay up all night... doing a 30x30 Kakuro!

Will post picture if I feel like it...

jonathanasdf · 05-8-2008, 01:56 AM

4am hmm...

not gna make it. gotta go sleep nao...

EI_Tizzy · 05-8-2008, 02:01 AM

Felt like posting it... it won't be too hard, really. Just loooong

**devonin** · 05-8-2008, 03:51 AM

Why oh why oh why oh why oh why oh why....

did I think it was a good idea to post rounds at 6, 8 and 10 in the morning?

EI_Tizzy · 05-8-2008, 04:43 AM

C'mon now, 10am isn't so bad...

Random Kakuro Update: I'm about 2/3 finished. This thing is a beast.

**Tasselfoot** · 05-8-2008, 04:52 AM

still awake... waiting.

EI_Tizzy · 05-8-2008, 04:58 AM

Hello there, Night Owls (and smartdude)

**smartdude1212** · 05-8-2008, 04:58 AM

haha you kakuro beast

EI_Tizzy · 05-8-2008, 04:59 AM

Thank you... and I was wrong, actually; save a few parts, this puzzle is really tough.

**devonin** · 05-8-2008, 05:06 AM

GOGOGOGO!

**smartdude1212** · 05-8-2008, 05:52 AM

wow, what a ****ing retarded game... the physics suck horribly, and now I'm not even going to bother trying for the speed bonus

EI_Tizzy · 05-8-2008, 05:53 AM

1st then?

smartdude's right, though. The physics aren't really the best. There's times when the ball hit the wall at almost a paralell angle, then proceeded to bounce off horrifically. Sometimes the ball rides the wall, or even goes through it (how I beat 22). All I have to say is...

lol I stayed up til 6am. Might as well not sleep XD

**Tasselfoot** · 05-8-2008, 06:01 AM

yea. been stuck on 22 for a while now. edit: somehow beat it while writing this post. lol.

**smartdude1212** · 05-8-2008, 06:02 AM

yeah I'm thinking you're first...

anyways, I'm going back to ****ing sleep

ps made it to 15 before getting really pissed

EI_Tizzy · 05-8-2008, 06:02 AM

lightweight

Also, I indeed found 22 to be completely ridiculous. It's almost impossible to get it around all the corners. I found a good strategy is to create very small balls in the beginning, leading up to very large balls in the end. Also, try and create straight lines of balls, as this will pool their power together

Fractal_Monkey · 05-8-2008, 06:05 AM

EI_Tizzy · 05-8-2008, 06:07 AM

Oh right... there's a Round to do as well XD

brb

05-7-2008, 06:06 PM	#361
devonin Very Grave Indeed Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 40 Posts: 10,098	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two The problem with finding a speed component frusterating is that a) The rounds with subjective completion chances have no time component. There's no reward for submitting a main song round faster than someone else, you have all tourney to work on them b) The rounds with a time component are all ones that it is generally expected that everyone will be able to complete. When it's just "Solved" or "Not Solved" if there's no time component, I expect basically everybody to have all the points from all of them, thus rendering them pretty much irrelevant to the overall score in the first place. The way to correct B) is to make the bonus round with a time component be things that are simply impossible to ever "beat" (Say games without an end to their levels, and the ranking is how far in you can get) or to make them as ridiculously difficult as you can manage to ensure that not everyone is capable of solving them. I don't really find either alternative especially savoury, so I have a time component to my competition. Also: Updated. Last edited by devonin; 05-8-2008 at 03:51 AM..

05-7-2008, 06:30 PM	#362
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two i love devonin. just want to throw that one out there. although i am still pissy about the round 7 bonus situation. __________________ RIP

05-7-2008, 07:21 PM	#363
smartdude1212 2 is poo Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 32 Posts: 6,687	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two component yeah well, me too Tass. Alarms are set for this upcoming round, although it's less likely I'll be awake.

05-8-2008, 01:56 AM	#365
jonathanasdf FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,959	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two 4am hmm... not gna make it. gotta go sleep nao... __________________ This section intentionally blank.

05-8-2008, 03:51 AM	#367
devonin Very Grave Indeed Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 40 Posts: 10,098	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two Why oh why oh why oh why oh why oh why.... did I think it was a good idea to post rounds at 6, 8 and 10 in the morning?

05-8-2008, 04:52 AM	#369
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two still awake... waiting. __________________ RIP

05-8-2008, 04:58 AM	#371
smartdude1212 2 is poo Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 32 Posts: 6,687	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two haha you kakuro beast

05-8-2008, 05:06 AM	#373
devonin Very Grave Indeed Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Age: 40 Posts: 10,098	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two GOGOGOGO!

05-8-2008, 05:52 AM	#374
smartdude1212 2 is poo Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 32 Posts: 6,687	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two wow, what a ****ing retarded game... the physics suck horribly, and now I'm not even going to bother trying for the speed bonus

05-8-2008, 06:01 AM	#376
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two yea. been stuck on 22 for a while now. edit: somehow beat it while writing this post. lol. __________________ RIP

05-8-2008, 06:02 AM	#377
smartdude1212 2 is poo Join Date: Sep 2005 Age: 32 Posts: 6,687	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two yeah I'm thinking you're first... anyways, I'm going back to ****ing sleep ps made it to 15 before getting really pissed

05-8-2008, 06:05 AM	#379
Fractal_Monkey FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Manchester, England Posts: 464	Re: Devonin's Critical Thinking Tourney Two

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