That topic.

**Chromer** · 07-5-2006, 07:16 PM

Ok this is a really perplexing thing to me. I masturbate on a cycle of about once every 6-7 days. This is normal but I've heard that in the Bible it is a sin. Now I've heard all of the "If it feels right, don't let anyone stop you," routine, but I would like an actual quote from the bible saying it's a sin. All I know is that in the Old Testament it said that when a man spilled the "seed," he was considered unclean until the evening in which he could clean himself. The same alos goes for a woman's period as well. I know I'm not the only one who masturbates, so a logical, and mature answer would be valued. Also,

http://www.ldolphin.org/Mast.shtml

This site pretty much breaks down everything about Masturbation and Christianity. Basically, it says that since God made our genitals for sex and NOT for masturbation, it could be considered a sin. Excuse me now, I'm about to go masturbate.

NuclearShadow · 07-5-2006, 07:27 PM

What about a nocturnal emission?

megaxxx · 07-5-2006, 07:32 PM

LOL. You masterbate once every 6-7 days. I masterbate 6-7 times a day.

**Squeek** · 07-5-2006, 07:50 PM

I would like to remind you all that this is Critical Thinking and that comments like above are not tolerated.

Stay on topic. Don't be immature. Answer his question.

Back to discussing the religious aspects of this matter.

~Squeek

megaxxx · 07-5-2006, 07:52 PM

My bad, I had to be stupid at the wrong place at the wrong time. Religious beliefs say that is lust. Nocturnal emissions I believe is only a mental, uncontrollable action that happens while you are asleep. I really don't think that is a sin.

ChAoSxxx · 07-5-2006, 07:53 PM

If that was the case there would be no one in heaven.

Twilight_Overlord · 07-5-2006, 07:55 PM

Except those who don't masturbate.

megaxxx · 07-5-2006, 07:59 PM

After you are around 85 and have no more drive, you can start going to church and start going back into god and jesus and cleanse your sins. These days and ages, this is where god would have to lower its standards to know why we do these things. IT would have to look beyond petty sins like masturbation and robing somebody for a penny.

Shopowner200 · 07-5-2006, 08:12 PM

Wow, this proves my theory that threads involving the words sex, masturbate, etc. attract more attention then normal threads. To answer the topic though, I believe no direct verses are anti-masturbation, but go ahead and check for yourself.

TheEvilHobo · 07-5-2006, 08:16 PM

I do it about once every one or two days. I'm pretty much athiest so I don't believe the bible, but if you do, then I'd say you can follow it and not masturbate or not follow it and wank freely.

super-smashman · 07-5-2006, 08:26 PM

See, the thing a lot of people don't realize about how the bible works is that it has two different parts. The point of having these two parts is to show pre and post Jesus rules about life.

The rules changed when Jesus came.

There are a whole bunch of contradictions between the new and old testaments but that's the point.

Take for example the eye for an eye thing. In the old testament, it was encouraged to seek revenge against those who wronged you. Enter: Jesus. He tought that you should love your enemies.

This can probably be applied to a lot of contraversial things that the bible has a point of view on.

Find your quote and find which part of the bible it came from. Chances are you will be able to find something in the new testament that contradicts it.

T0rajir0u · 07-5-2006, 08:31 PM

You can look at masturbation as one of the many ways that people admit that they're not perfect, since people do it primarily to avoid one of two things:

1. Going crazy
2. Raping somebody

Neither of which would happen to a theoretically perfect celibate or married Christian.

The other issue going on here is that this thread began with the underlying assumption that anything the Bible says needs to be followed because it's the word of God.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/006...lance&n=283155

jewpinthethird · 07-5-2006, 08:46 PM

Quote:

The rules changed when Jesus came.

Quote:

The rules changed when Jesus came.

Quote:

The rules changed when Jesus came.

Quote:

The rules changed when Jesus came.

I don't know nothing about no Bible stuff, but if masturbation is a sin, then that's all the more confirmation that I need that the Bible is absolute sh*t. Masturbation is a completely natural process. Many different species of mammals masturbate.

Quote:

ne can not survive without food and water, but many men and women live healthy, fulfilled, single lives in Christ without expressing themselves sexually.

So, then if I enjoy the food that I eat, does that mean I am sinning? Because when I bite into chocolate cake, am I not experiencing a brief sensation of self-indulgent bliss?

megaxxx · 07-5-2006, 09:51 PM

5 stars.

**Squeek** · 07-5-2006, 10:18 PM

Ok, seriously, stop hijacking this thread. This is not the garbage bin. This is not chit chat. Someone says something sex-related and all the kiddies have to post lol i do it more den u rofl im betr

I don't want to have to lock this. It's a serious thread that should warrant serious replies.

Any further replies in this thread that do not answer or attempt to answer the original question ("Does the bible say it's wrong") will result in a forum warning or a ban.

Do not reply to this post.

~Squeek

**Chromer** · 07-6-2006, 05:01 AM

Um Squeek you have 6,660 posts. O_o

Telvanni_guard · 07-6-2006, 05:53 AM

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...ontext=chapter

Genesis 38. Chapters 8, 9, 10.

8: Then Judah said to Onan, "Lie with your brother's wife and fulfill your duty to her as a brother-in-law to produce offspring for your brother."
9: But Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so whenever he lay with his brother's wife, he spilled his semen on the ground to keep from producing offspring for his brother.
10: What he did was wicked in the LORD's sight; so he put him to death also.

The main part of the passage being, 'What he did was wicked in the Lord's sight'. I haven't found anything to say that if it was because he was supposed to impregnate the woman or because it wasn't that he was wicked, or because he simply masturbated. The bible is full of much controversy. The same passage can be interpretted many ways by many people. So, I have no idea what the true meaning is.

whorlichan · 07-6-2006, 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Telvanni_guard

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...ontext=chapter

Genesis 38. Chapters 8, 9, 10.

8: Then Judah said to Onan, "Lie with your brother's wife and fulfill your duty to her as a brother-in-law to produce offspring for your brother."
9: But Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so whenever he lay with his brother's wife, he spilled his semen on the ground to keep from producing offspring for his brother.
10: What he did was wicked in the LORD's sight; so he put him to death also.

The main part of the passage being, 'What he did was wicked in the Lord's sight'. I haven't found anything to say that if it was because he was supposed to impregnate the woman or because it wasn't that he was wicked, or because he simply masturbated. The bible is full of much controversy. The same passage can be interpretted many ways by many people. So, I have no idea what the true meaning is.

I'm pretty sure the problem here is not that he masturbated--he was "laying with his brother's wife" which to me translates as having sex with her--but that he did not impregnate her. Masturbation is a single-person ordeal (let's leave mutual masturbation out of it for now) and what he was doing is technically called "pulling out." I am actually amazed that Onan's brother's wife DIDN'T get pregnant, because it's a terrible method of birth control.

That being said, I don't think the Bible should be anyone's guide as to the question of masturbation. If you enjoy it, do it. If you don't, don't. We've all seen what happens when people don't masturbate/have sex/get SOME kind of sexual fulfillment: They usually end up raping/molesting/otherwise harming someone ELSE to get their own jollies. I don't approve of that.

GuidoHunter · 07-6-2006, 07:09 AM

I've always read Onan's sin to be against pulling out (and, thus, contraception) rather than masturbation, but that's just me.

Also, whorli, I'm pretty sure that since Onan's brother was dead that he had every legal right to his wife.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

Omeganitros · 07-6-2006, 07:15 AM

Man, now this thread's got me all thinking if those Monks that live in the mountains (you know, the ones that are all pure and have no worldly possessions) masturbate.

07-5-2006, 07:16 PM	#1
Chromer Hookers and Blow Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: You heard the robot. No fun. Age: 34 Posts: 4,981	That topic. Ok this is a really perplexing thing to me. I masturbate on a cycle of about once every 6-7 days. This is normal but I've heard that in the Bible it is a sin. Now I've heard all of the "If it feels right, don't let anyone stop you," routine, but I would like an actual quote from the bible saying it's a sin. All I know is that in the Old Testament it said that when a man spilled the "seed," he was considered unclean until the evening in which he could clean himself. The same alos goes for a woman's period as well. I know I'm not the only one who masturbates, so a logical, and mature answer would be valued. Also, http://www.ldolphin.org/Mast.shtml This site pretty much breaks down everything about Masturbation and Christianity. Basically, it says that since God made our genitals for sex and NOT for masturbation, it could be considered a sin. Excuse me now, I'm about to go masturbate. __________________

07-5-2006, 07:32 PM	#3
megaxxx FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Louisiana Age: 36 Posts: 329	Re: Masturbation and You LOL. You masterbate once every 6-7 days. I masterbate 6-7 times a day. __________________ GET A JOB LOSER.

07-5-2006, 07:50 PM	#4
Squeek let it snow~ Join Date: Jan 2004 Age: 37 Posts: 14,444	Re: Masturbation and You I would like to remind you all that this is Critical Thinking and that comments like above are not tolerated. Stay on topic. Don't be immature. Answer his question. Back to discussing the religious aspects of this matter. ~Squeek

07-5-2006, 07:52 PM	#5
megaxxx FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Louisiana Age: 36 Posts: 329	Re: Masturbation and You My bad, I had to be stupid at the wrong place at the wrong time. Religious beliefs say that is lust. Nocturnal emissions I believe is only a mental, uncontrollable action that happens while you are asleep. I really don't think that is a sin. __________________ GET A JOB LOSER.

07-5-2006, 07:53 PM	#6
ChAoSxxx FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 105	Re: Masturbation and You If that was the case there would be no one in heaven.

07-5-2006, 07:55 PM	#7
Twilight_Overlord FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 317	Re: Masturbation and You Except those who don't masturbate. __________________ You should value your education more than this crap of Flash Flash bull.

07-5-2006, 07:59 PM	#8
megaxxx FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Louisiana Age: 36 Posts: 329	Re: Masturbation and You After you are around 85 and have no more drive, you can start going to church and start going back into god and jesus and cleanse your sins. These days and ages, this is where god would have to lower its standards to know why we do these things. IT would have to look beyond petty sins like masturbation and robing somebody for a penny. __________________ GET A JOB LOSER.

07-5-2006, 08:16 PM	#10
TheEvilHobo FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Everett, WA Age: 32 Posts: 521	Re: Masturbation and You I do it about once every one or two days. I'm pretty much athiest so I don't believe the bible, but if you do, then I'd say you can follow it and not masturbate or not follow it and wank freely. __________________ I make music, listen to my tracks here -Octopodes on Facebook - or here - Octopodes on Soundcloud - My music cures AIDS

07-5-2006, 08:26 PM	#11
super-smashman FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: No, I tacol. Age: 34 Posts: 2,638	Re: Masturbation and You See, the thing a lot of people don't realize about how the bible works is that it has two different parts. The point of having these two parts is to show pre and post Jesus rules about life. The rules changed when Jesus came. There are a whole bunch of contradictions between the new and old testaments but that's the point. Take for example the eye for an eye thing. In the old testament, it was encouraged to seek revenge against those who wronged you. Enter: Jesus. He tought that you should love your enemies. This can probably be applied to a lot of contraversial things that the bible has a point of view on. Find your quote and find which part of the bible it came from. Chances are you will be able to find something in the new testament that contradicts it. __________________

07-5-2006, 08:31 PM	#12
T0rajir0u FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: awsome Posts: 2,946	Re: Masturbation and You You can look at masturbation as one of the many ways that people admit that they're not perfect, since people do it primarily to avoid one of two things: 1. Going crazy 2. Raping somebody Neither of which would happen to a theoretically perfect celibate or married Christian. The other issue going on here is that this thread began with the underlying assumption that anything the Bible says needs to be followed because it's the word of God. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/006...lance&n=283155 __________________ hehe

07-5-2006, 09:51 PM	#14
megaxxx FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Louisiana Age: 36 Posts: 329	Re: Masturbation and You 5 stars. __________________ GET A JOB LOSER.

07-5-2006, 10:18 PM	#15
Squeek let it snow~ Join Date: Jan 2004 Age: 37 Posts: 14,444	Re: Masturbation and You Ok, seriously, stop hijacking this thread. This is not the garbage bin. This is not chit chat. Someone says something sex-related and all the kiddies have to post lol i do it more den u rofl im betr I don't want to have to lock this. It's a serious thread that should warrant serious replies. Any further replies in this thread that do not answer or attempt to answer the original question ("Does the bible say it's wrong") will result in a forum warning or a ban. Do not reply to this post. ~Squeek

07-6-2006, 05:01 AM	#16
Chromer Hookers and Blow Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: You heard the robot. No fun. Age: 34 Posts: 4,981	Re: Masturbation and You Um Squeek you have 6,660 posts. O_o __________________

07-6-2006, 05:53 AM	#17
Telvanni_guard FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Virginia Age: 38 Posts: 1,031	Re: Masturbation and You http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...ontext=chapter Genesis 38. Chapters 8, 9, 10. 8: Then Judah said to Onan, "Lie with your brother's wife and fulfill your duty to her as a brother-in-law to produce offspring for your brother." 9: But Onan knew that the offspring would not be his; so whenever he lay with his brother's wife, he spilled his semen on the ground to keep from producing offspring for his brother. 10: What he did was wicked in the LORD's sight; so he put him to death also. The main part of the passage being, 'What he did was wicked in the Lord's sight'. I haven't found anything to say that if it was because he was supposed to impregnate the woman or because it wasn't that he was wicked, or because he simply masturbated. The bible is full of much controversy. The same passage can be interpretted many ways by many people. So, I have no idea what the true meaning is.

07-6-2006, 07:15 AM	#20
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