TWC Rules, Policies, Etc. - Page 27

**u84** · 08-23-2008, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

3a. Players are not allowed to reveal their PMs or conversations with the host to anyone else. This includes (and is not limited) to: forwarding the PM to any other player, showing a screenshot of the PM, or copypasta'ing the PM info into the thread or to another player. Players are not allowed to reveal conversations - with the Host - relating to the game to any other player. Players may not post screenshots of conversations they have with other players that are not involved in the current j/TWG.

Includes and is not limited to

Yes, but even the first post doesn't specify this. It says we aren't allowed to reveal our PM's to anyone. But if anyone did exactly that, it'd be illegal to say "I am a human" because that's part of the PM. So, to say that sums it up is incorrect because if that's true, then we'd be in the dark for the entire game, just blindly guessing based off of pure instinct. So, to easily avoid all confusion, you could add to the rule and say that you may not discuss anything in your host-to-player PM other than your role.

flawofhumanity · 08-23-2008, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by u84

Yes, but even the first post doesn't specify this. It says we aren't allowed to reveal our PM's to anyone. But if anyone did exactly that, it'd be illegal to say "I am a human" because that's part of the PM. So, to say that sums it up is incorrect because if that's true, then we'd be in the dark for the entire game, just blindly guessing based off of pure instinct. So, to easily avoid all confusion, you could add to the rule and say that you may not discuss anything in your host-to-player PM other than your role.

Okay, since I can see that your argument is hinging on the fact that the rules have to be so clear that a 3-year old could understand them, I'll throw you a bone (just in case that is in fact your reading level.) We could amend the rule 3a. to explicitly say that you can state your role. I guess assuming people have a complete lack of common sense is actually a good idea, considering people like FJ are playing TWG.

rzr · 08-23-2008, 07:15 PM

Kyle, man, I'm just letting you know now that going up against the Council is dangerous. I never win.

the thing everyone can agree on is this, and plain and simple for you morons out there: Every OP in a TWG or jTWG must contain the exact wording of each role PM.

I hope to god I don't need to explain this. Now, go, vote.

**u84** · 08-23-2008, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by rzr

Kyle, man, I'm just letting you know now that going up against the Council is dangerous. I never win.

the thing everyone can agree on is this, and plain and simple for you morons out there: Every OP in a TWG or jTWG must contain the exact wording of each role PM.

I hope to god I don't need to explain this. Now, go, vote.

Hmm.. then why didn't you do this last game? Hypocrite much? I'm not trying to be an ass and I'm not a 3-year-old. I don't care what you think or if it's dangerous. I'm not trying to make this a debate or argue against the rules. I'm just saying that any sensible person who reads this rule can assume it not to be specific enough and use that logic to do exactly what I did. Nothing I've said or done is ban-worthy. I know now that it is illegal, even if you don't modify the rule, but others may not. And that will lead to yet another canelation. No one needs to jump on me about this anymore. Thanks.

rzr · 08-23-2008, 07:50 PM

Don't call me a god damn hypocrite. It's not mandatory. I didn't expect people to play so dirty. If we MAKE IT MANDATORY they'll be there for everyone.

P.S. Aren't I good at sending subliminal messages?!?!

**u84** · 08-23-2008, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by rzr

Don't call me a god damn hypocrite. It's not mandatory. I didn't expect people to play so dirty. If we MAKE IT MANDATORY they'll be there for everyone.

P.S. Aren't I good at sending subliminal messages?!?!

I understand, but don't tell me that all OPs must contain the PM's if you yourself didn't even do it. Sorry if I came across as an ass.

rzr · 08-23-2008, 07:58 PM

I'm saying it should be a ****ing rule. You don't want help proving your point? Ok, bye.

P.S. Still friends <3

**u84** · 08-23-2008, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by rzr

I'm saying it should be a ****ing rule. You don't want help proving your point? Ok, bye.

P.S. Still friends <3

Well to start, I don't agree with that rule for the reason I stated prior to the debate between me and Manti. Mystery games are fun, but mystery games are more fun if no one knows they are mystery. This means, not everyone will have the same PM, but no one knows. So, if your rule is implemented, then this kind of game is impossible. If my rule is implemented, all confusion is swept away and games like that can still go on without needing to post the PM's in the OP.

**Makilaz** · 08-23-2008, 08:07 PM

For ****'s sake, is it really that complex that it needs to be amended to the ****ing rules? Don't talk about your PM. Saying "I'm a human, seer, etc." is fine. Anything beyond that is not. End of story.

**u84** · 08-23-2008, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Makilaz

For ****'s sake, is it really that complex that it needs to be amended to the ****ing rules? Don't talk about your PM. Saying "I'm a human, seer, etc." is fine. Anything beyond that is not. End of story.

All that needs to be stated.

**DarkManticoreX2** · 08-23-2008, 08:10 PM

The reason saying "I'm a Human, Seer, Purple People Eater" is fine is because it's still withing the relm of manipulation, you don't know if the player is lying or telling you the truth.

The reason "Hey what does your pm say" is illegal is because only the player who got the pm can answer it, and you can concretly discern he's telling the truth. This leaves no possibility for error in the game and thusly ruins it. The humans would always win. Period. End of story. and theres no reason for the game to go on.

Catfish?

**Makilaz** · 08-23-2008, 08:11 PM

No, it really doesn't. The only purpose of stating it would be to make the rules even more complicated than they need to be. It should be common sense that you don't take things further than that, or it ruins the game.

Ninja'd by Manti, but he sums it up fairly well.

**u84** · 08-23-2008, 08:21 PM

Whatever. I get the point now. I really don't care anymore anyways.

rzr · 08-23-2008, 10:41 PM

And the end result is...?

**travman301** · 08-23-2008, 10:46 PM

What do you mean rzr?

**Makilaz** · 08-23-2008, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by rzr

And the end result is...?

Do you really have to ask? You can still say "I'm a human, seer, etc." but any further than that is illegal. And asking about PMs at all is out. If you want to post the human PM in the OP, you can, but it's not mandatory.

rzr · 08-23-2008, 11:23 PM

Alright, that's cool. I think what I'll do is not send a human PM (excluding mystery games). This makes it easier for everyone. If they don't get one they're a regular human. That's just what I'm going to do, though.

**Makilaz** · 08-23-2008, 11:37 PM

I believe everyone still needs to get a role PM so it's not confusing as hell.

sc979 · 08-23-2008, 11:49 PM

If you don't send PMs, some people wouldn't realize that the game started.

Just send a PM saying

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You are human.

and nothing else.

If you add anything else and it's the same for all humans, just put a copy of it in the OP.

aTzUeLo1191 · 08-24-2008, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by sc979

If you don't send PMs, some people wouldn't realize that the game started.

Just send a PM saying

and nothing else.

If you add anything else and it's the same for all humans, just put a copy of it in the OP.

I agree with this...also if a PM should not go through for some reason it would mess up the structure of the game.

08-23-2008, 08:07 PM	#529
Makilaz TWG Princess Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bristol, UK Age: 34 Posts: 1,094	Re: TWC Rules, Policies, Etc. For **'s sake, is it really that complex that it needs to be amended to the **ing rules? Don't talk about your PM. Saying "I'm a human, seer, etc." is fine. Anything beyond that is not. End of story. __________________

08-23-2008, 08:11 PM	#532
Makilaz TWG Princess Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bristol, UK Age: 34 Posts: 1,094	Re: TWC Rules, Policies, Etc. No, it really doesn't. The only purpose of stating it would be to make the rules even more complicated than they need to be. It should be common sense that you don't take things further than that, or it ruins the game. Ninja'd by Manti, but he sums it up fairly well. __________________ Last edited by Makilaz; 08-23-2008 at 08:14 PM..

08-23-2008, 10:46 PM	#535
travman301 #swagdog Join Date: Mar 2004 Age: 33 Posts: 2,641	Re: TWC Rules, Policies, Etc. What do you mean rzr?

08-23-2008, 11:37 PM	#538
Makilaz TWG Princess Join Date: May 2006 Location: Bristol, UK Age: 34 Posts: 1,094	Re: TWC Rules, Policies, Etc. I believe everyone still needs to get a role PM so it's not confusing as hell. __________________

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