TWG XXXV - Knick It In The Bud - Page 13

Omeganitros · 08-13-2006, 12:59 PM

Yeah...

It's just that you, me, and everyone knows that in general Wolves don't post often. Which means good guys post lots.

flypie743 · 08-13-2006, 01:33 PM

I'll come out. I guarded Kefit last night. Why? Let me run down the list for you:

Tasselfoot - One of the top players along with blah and ap. He already had suspicion on him. I didn't think that the wolves would kill him night 2.
FishFishRevolution - Kind of suspicious, but still a good player.
GuidoHunter - Hardly active at all, got a phantom, not worth the kill.
JurseyRider734 - Has hardly said anything, not one of the top players.
flypie743 - Wasn't going to guard myself..I haven't played a TWG in 10 games and I'm not one of the top players either.
Shashakiro - First game, not worth the kill
CypherToorima - Wolfsbane
StoicRoivaS - First game, also? Maybe not..I did miss a lot of TWGs. Talkative, but definitely not a 2nd night kill.
Kefit - Smart, comes up with strong reasoning, follows the pattern of strong but less likely to be guarded players. My choice for sure.
blahblah18 - See tass.
Omeganitros - Good player, but didn't think he would be the night 2 kill.
aperson - See tass.
Afrobean - Good player, but didn't think he would be the night 2 kill.
Wilkin - He's just kinda there. He pops in makes a huge posts commenting on everything and then leaves. I almost forgot he was playing. Not a night 2 kill.

Of course there could be the chance that blah/tass/ap was wolfed last night but following the wolves first night kill, I decided to choose Kefit.

About blah's #2 plan...it's possible but it just doesn't seem as likely in my eyes. I don't see Kefit being one to try it when the odds are very low, as ap stated on the last page.

JurseyRider734 · 08-13-2006, 01:33 PM

I dont even remember the last time I was really ACTIVE in the TWG thread.

Is there a chat?

If not, I think i'll start one.

Afrobean · 08-13-2006, 01:40 PM

It's too bad Cypher is MIA. I would like to see the numbers on just how many people actually voted to guard kefit.

Omeganitros · 08-13-2006, 02:10 PM

My top suspicions are based on a what I feel is general Wolf behavior, and comparing their behavior to how I act when I'm a wolf.

blahblah18 - Sure, he posts, he came up the Cypher Chooses Guards plan, but really he's just been acting silly. And if there's one thing I remember about me when I'm a wolf, it's that I like to be silly, like putting replies in MS Paint form.

Wilkin - The wolves are obviously bright, because Kefit was a smart choice for a wolfing. The fact that he seems to be one of the smart people that would choose Kefit, plus the fact that Tass and aperson and Kefit and the other smart guys don't seem too wolfy, and the fact that his posts are infrequent (though not enough to be inactive), puts him in my suspicion list.

GuidoHunter - Damn, this guy is unreadable, because as both Human and Wolf he's known to be not very active. I remember when I was a wolf, and I couldn't think of someone I could vote for with good reasoning, I just voted GuidoHunter and said "He's hardly posted, and we all know wolves hardly post" and everyone agreed. So, I dunno.

Shashakiro - Sorry pal, it's just that my gut tells me one of the three wolves is a newbie.

Of course, I'm suspicious of everyone really, it's just that these people I can actually think up reasons for being suspicious of them.

CypherToorima · 08-13-2006, 03:06 PM

Guys, I'm not MIA. I'm reading the thread, keeping up, and talking to people on AIM. This is my first game when I actually have active AIM conversations, and I can't really think of too much to post, but I'll run down my "what I think about players" list.

Tass-Can go either way with this guy, but I'm definately leaning towards human. I doubt if Tass and Fish were wolves, Tass would let Fish defend him. But who knows.

Fish-I haven't talked to much to fish, but from what I have, I'm definately not sure. He can be a smooth operator on AIM and phone and such. It's hard for me to tell.

Guido-Well...All he's said to me was "**** you for taking LaMarcus Aldridge." And holy crap, when omega said guido was no very active, you weren't kidding.

Jurs- Seems human to me. Don't really have much to say. Then again, it's hard to seem like anything with minimal activity.

Flypie- same as jurs, except a bit more active.

Shash- Talked to him a bit on AIM. Seems human to me.

Stoic-

Kefit- guarded. 99% human to me.

blah- Talked to him on AIM a bit. Seemed like he genuinely human to me, actually.

Omega- Seems like his human self.

Aperson- Seems like his human self, too. All tooth and nails like.

Afro- Also seems human, except he didn't try to lat any of his traps =o

OR DID HE?!?!

Wilkin- wtf. "here's a good plan the would benefit the humans that the wolves might not catch on too, let me announce it in the thread to shoot down any chance of it getting off the ground, lol." leaning towads wolf.

Combos

Omega and guido- omega tries to explain guido's inactivity because both are wolves. Sure he's on his "Who I think is a wof" list, but omega basically says he thinks guido is human.

That's all for now.

Omeganitros · 08-13-2006, 03:20 PM

A few things can happen to Guido:

1. He turns out to be a wolf, continues his non-posting ways, and wins the game.
2. He starts getting active and turns out to be human.
3. He's actually human and the wolves lynch him because of inactive reasoning.
4. He's actually a wolf and catches on that he better start posting.
5. He's an inactive human, way to go.

My money's on #3 happening, because with or without the wolves' help, if you get a phantom you have to go some time.

CypherToorima · 08-13-2006, 03:23 PM

oh hey, btw, if everyone could send me their guard picks, night one and two, it would be greatly appreciated. PMs please.

GuidoHunter · 08-13-2006, 04:30 PM

Oh, hi, I upgraded your RAM.

I've been reading the thread, but have had a really hectic week with work, friends, family, and girlfriend, so I haven't taken the time to analyze it much.

--Guido

http://andy.mikee385.com

StoicRoivaS · 08-13-2006, 04:32 PM

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but we have just over 6 hours left to vote? I really doubt I'll be back before then so I'm going with Guido for now. More activity pee el zee.

Afrobean · 08-13-2006, 04:36 PM

Does day really end tonight?

I'll throw my vote out tonight then. Forewarning: it won't have much if any reasoning behind it, and if it has any reasoning, it'll likely be old stale day 1 evidence. Likely my vote will be used as a means to pick from those on the chopping block as the one I would most like to see lynched.

And honestly, I would have no problem with most of you guys being lynched. This is terrible.

Wilkin · 08-13-2006, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CypherToorima

Wilkin- wtf. "here's a good plan the would benefit the humans that the wolves might not catch on too, let me announce it in the thread to shoot down any chance of it getting off the ground, lol." leaning towads wolf.

Cypher, what plan exactly are you talking about? In my last post, the only plan I talked about had to do with the problems with having you pick out the guards for everyone.

On Day 1, I mainly talked about the guarding system. If you're referring to my post about blah's idea,

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myself in post #162

1) Blah's idea. The one constant in this situation is Cypher. That means Cypher can do whatever he pleases without anyone else knowing or mattering. Even if the plan is that a few people will get 3 or 4 guards, he could just tell everyone to vote the same person, and no one would be the wiser (assuming no one talked about it with more than four people). For example, if he told everyone to guard X (including the wolves), and the wolves, thinking they just happened to get the majority of guards on X assigned to them, went for someone else and tried to wolf X, then chances are the guard would still happen. This idea would have to be very cleverly done to work.

then like I said, the one constant is you. The wolves can't know what you're going to do with the guard information, provided everyone agrees to have anything done with it at all in that manner. And, like I've said (along with posts Night 1), that plan has too many flaws in it as it is to be considered reliable.

**FishFishRevolution** · 08-13-2006, 07:10 PM

Yeah, I'd rather see Tass go still than anyone else. I really do wonder why everyone has this vote-grudge against me. Oh bother.

Omeganitros · 08-13-2006, 07:47 PM

I just don't see why Tass should kick the bucket.

I don't see why ANYONE should kick the bucket. I don't feel I have enough to go on to make a vote. Is it really over in 3 hours?

Afrobean · 08-13-2006, 07:56 PM

Tass.

Four reasons:

#1: Revenge for killing who I see as the wrong person day 1.

#2: Any and all reasons for voting him day 1.

#3: Out of the people with the most votes (ie ONE WTF) he's who I'd rather see go.

#4: This way I don't get a phantom. Not like it'll matter anyway since pretty much everyone is going to it seems anyway.

Omeganitros · 08-13-2006, 08:26 PM

Some mother****ers better get on AIM or start posting, because now I'm starting to get angry that Day 2 is going toend in such a fashion.

**Kilgamayan** · 08-13-2006, 08:37 PM

Fish: 2 (Tass, ap)
Guido: 1 (Stoic)
Tass: 2 (Fish, Afro)

Yet to vote: 9 other people

Little over 2 hours to go.

blahblah18 · 08-13-2006, 09:09 PM

Shash keep saying stupid things and not seeming to understand anything.

Sorry I wasn't around, I was quite busy

wher ma kef@

I really want to vote tass

I really want to know why AP voted Fish.

For now I vote stoic

flypie743 · 08-13-2006, 09:18 PM

Wtf is up with this lack of reason for voting like blah said above. It would definitely help us to come to some kind of conclusion for day 2 voting. Seeing as it ends in about an hour and we got nothing, reasoning would definitely help.

Omeganitros · 08-13-2006, 09:22 PM

I want to give Guido a chance to start posting Day 3, and I thought up an interesting theory, and I have some other suspicions, but I want to save them all for at LEAST tommorrow.

I don't see why Tasselfoot must die.
I. Don't. See it.

I really really really really really wish I could talk to Fish before I vote him, but time is pressing and I don't want Day 2 to end the way it's headed.

08-13-2006, 12:59 PM	#241
Omeganitros auauauau Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Hee-Haw! Age: 35 Posts: 8,897	Re: TWG XXXV - Knick It In The Bud Yeah... It's just that you, me, and everyone knows that in general Wolves don't post often. Which means good guys post lots.

08-13-2006, 01:33 PM	#242
flypie743 FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: fairyland Posts: 3,210	Re: TWG XXXV - Knick It In The Bud I'll come out. I guarded Kefit last night. Why? Let me run down the list for you: Tasselfoot - One of the top players along with blah and ap. He already had suspicion on him. I didn't think that the wolves would kill him night 2. FishFishRevolution - Kind of suspicious, but still a good player. GuidoHunter - Hardly active at all, got a phantom, not worth the kill. JurseyRider734 - Has hardly said anything, not one of the top players. flypie743 - Wasn't going to guard myself..I haven't played a TWG in 10 games and I'm not one of the top players either. Shashakiro - First game, not worth the kill CypherToorima - Wolfsbane StoicRoivaS - First game, also? Maybe not..I did miss a lot of TWGs. Talkative, but definitely not a 2nd night kill. Kefit - Smart, comes up with strong reasoning, follows the pattern of strong but less likely to be guarded players. My choice for sure. blahblah18 - See tass. Omeganitros - Good player, but didn't think he would be the night 2 kill. aperson - See tass. Afrobean - Good player, but didn't think he would be the night 2 kill. Wilkin - He's just kinda there. He pops in makes a huge posts commenting on everything and then leaves. I almost forgot he was playing. Not a night 2 kill. Of course there could be the chance that blah/tass/ap was wolfed last night but following the wolves first night kill, I decided to choose Kefit. About blah's #2 plan...it's possible but it just doesn't seem as likely in my eyes. I don't see Kefit being one to try it when the odds are very low, as ap stated on the last page. __________________ IF YOU ARE THE BOMB YOU WILL CLICK THIS and if you dont, you suck. Last edited by flypie743; 08-13-2006 at 01:43 PM..

08-13-2006, 01:40 PM	#244
Afrobean Admiral in the Red Army Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the moon Age: 36 Posts: 13,262	Re: TWG XXXV - Knick It In The Bud It's too bad Cypher is MIA. I would like to see the numbers on just how many people actually voted to guard kefit. __________________

08-13-2006, 02:10 PM	#245
Omeganitros auauauau Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Hee-Haw! Age: 35 Posts: 8,897	Re: TWG XXXV - Knick It In The Bud My top suspicions are based on a what I feel is general Wolf behavior, and comparing their behavior to how I act when I'm a wolf. blahblah18 - Sure, he posts, he came up the Cypher Chooses Guards plan, but really he's just been acting silly. And if there's one thing I remember about me when I'm a wolf, it's that I like to be silly, like putting replies in MS Paint form. Wilkin - The wolves are obviously bright, because Kefit was a smart choice for a wolfing. The fact that he seems to be one of the smart people that would choose Kefit, plus the fact that Tass and aperson and Kefit and the other smart guys don't seem too wolfy, and the fact that his posts are infrequent (though not enough to be inactive), puts him in my suspicion list. GuidoHunter - Damn, this guy is unreadable, because as both Human and Wolf he's known to be not very active. I remember when I was a wolf, and I couldn't think of someone I could vote for with good reasoning, I just voted GuidoHunter and said "He's hardly posted, and we all know wolves hardly post" and everyone agreed. So, I dunno. Shashakiro - Sorry pal, it's just that my gut tells me one of the three wolves is a newbie. Of course, I'm suspicious of everyone really, it's just that these people I can actually think up reasons for being suspicious of them.

08-13-2006, 03:06 PM	#246
CypherToorima Boss of all bosses Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Phone Home! Age: 35 Posts: 2,452	Re: TWG XXXV - Knick It In The Bud Guys, I'm not MIA. I'm reading the thread, keeping up, and talking to people on AIM. This is my first game when I actually have active AIM conversations, and I can't really think of too much to post, but I'll run down my "what I think about players" list. Tass-Can go either way with this guy, but I'm definately leaning towards human. I doubt if Tass and Fish were wolves, Tass would let Fish defend him. But who knows. Fish-I haven't talked to much to fish, but from what I have, I'm definately not sure. He can be a smooth operator on AIM and phone and such. It's hard for me to tell. Guido-Well...All he's said to me was "**** you for taking LaMarcus Aldridge." And holy crap, when omega said guido was no very active, you weren't kidding. Jurs- Seems human to me. Don't really have much to say. Then again, it's hard to seem like anything with minimal activity. Flypie- same as jurs, except a bit more active. Shash- Talked to him a bit on AIM. Seems human to me. Stoic- Kefit- guarded. 99% human to me. blah- Talked to him on AIM a bit. Seemed like he genuinely human to me, actually. Omega- Seems like his human self. Aperson- Seems like his human self, too. All tooth and nails like. Afro- Also seems human, except he didn't try to lat any of his traps =o OR DID HE?!?! Wilkin- wtf. "here's a good plan the would benefit the humans that the wolves might not catch on too, let me announce it in the thread to shoot down any chance of it getting off the ground, lol." leaning towads wolf. Combos Omega and guido- omega tries to explain guido's inactivity because both are wolves. Sure he's on his "Who I think is a wof" list, but omega basically says he thinks guido is human. That's all for now. __________________ I'm a figantic gaggot

08-13-2006, 03:20 PM	#247
Omeganitros auauauau Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Hee-Haw! Age: 35 Posts: 8,897	Re: TWG XXXV - Knick It In The Bud A few things can happen to Guido: 1. He turns out to be a wolf, continues his non-posting ways, and wins the game. 2. He starts getting active and turns out to be human. 3. He's actually human and the wolves lynch him because of inactive reasoning. 4. He's actually a wolf and catches on that he better start posting. 5. He's an inactive human, way to go. My money's on #3 happening, because with or without the wolves' help, if you get a phantom you have to go some time.

08-13-2006, 03:23 PM	#248
CypherToorima Boss of all bosses Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Phone Home! Age: 35 Posts: 2,452	Re: TWG XXXV - Knick It In The Bud oh hey, btw, if everyone could send me their guard picks, night one and two, it would be greatly appreciated. PMs please. __________________ I'm a figantic gaggot

08-13-2006, 04:32 PM	#250
StoicRoivaS FFR Player Join Date: May 2006 Location: OC Age: 39 Posts: 548	Re: TWG XXXV - Knick It In The Bud Someone correct me if I'm wrong but we have just over 6 hours left to vote? I really doubt I'll be back before then so I'm going with Guido for now. More activity pee el zee. __________________ Like the moon over the day, my genius and brawn are wasted on these fools. ~Haiku -Bowser

08-13-2006, 04:36 PM	#251
Afrobean Admiral in the Red Army Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the moon Age: 36 Posts: 13,262	Re: TWG XXXV - Knick It In The Bud Does day really end tonight? I'll throw my vote out tonight then. Forewarning: it won't have much if any reasoning behind it, and if it has any reasoning, it'll likely be old stale day 1 evidence. Likely my vote will be used as a means to pick from those on the chopping block as the one I would most like to see lynched. And honestly, I would have no problem with most of you guys being lynched. This is terrible. __________________

08-13-2006, 07:10 PM	#253
FishFishRevolution GotR Creator Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Vi sitter här i venten Current Band: The National Age: 36 Posts: 7,251	Re: TWG XXXV - Knick It In The Bud Yeah, I'd rather see Tass go still than anyone else. I really do wonder why everyone has this vote-grudge against me. Oh bother. __________________

08-13-2006, 07:47 PM	#254
Omeganitros auauauau Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Hee-Haw! Age: 35 Posts: 8,897	Re: TWG XXXV - Knick It In The Bud I just don't see why Tass should kick the bucket. I don't see why ANYONE should kick the bucket. I don't feel I have enough to go on to make a vote. Is it really over in 3 hours?

08-13-2006, 07:56 PM	#255
Afrobean Admiral in the Red Army Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the moon Age: 36 Posts: 13,262	Re: TWG XXXV - Knick It In The Bud Tass. Four reasons: #1: Revenge for killing who I see as the wrong person day 1. #2: Any and all reasons for voting him day 1. #3: Out of the people with the most votes (ie ONE WTF) he's who I'd rather see go. #4: This way I don't get a phantom. Not like it'll matter anyway since pretty much everyone is going to it seems anyway. __________________

08-13-2006, 08:26 PM	#256
Omeganitros auauauau Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Hee-Haw! Age: 35 Posts: 8,897	Re: TWG XXXV - Knick It In The Bud Some mother****ers better get on AIM or start posting, because now I'm starting to get angry that Day 2 is going toend in such a fashion.

08-13-2006, 08:37 PM	#257
Kilgamayan Super Scooter Happy Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Location, Location. Age: 39 Posts: 6,583	Re: TWG XXXV - Knick It In The Bud Fish: 2 (Tass, ap) Guido: 1 (Stoic) Tass: 2 (Fish, Afro) Yet to vote: 9 other people Little over 2 hours to go. __________________ I watched clouds awobbly from the floor o' that kayak. Souls cross ages like clouds cross skies, an' tho' a cloud's shape nor hue nor size don't stay the same, it's still a cloud an' so is a soul. Who can say where the cloud's blowed from or who the soul'll be 'morrow? Only Sonmi the east an' the west an' the compass an' the atlas, yay, only the atlas o' clouds.

08-13-2006, 09:09 PM	#258
blahblah18 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: NOW BLAHTOPIA Posts: 1,662	Re: TWG XXXV - Knick It In The Bud Shash keep saying stupid things and not seeming to understand anything. Sorry I wasn't around, I was quite busy wher ma kef@ I really want to vote tass I really want to know why AP voted Fish. For now I vote stoic __________________ but for now... postCount++

08-13-2006, 09:18 PM	#259
flypie743 FFR Player Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: fairyland Posts: 3,210	Re: TWG XXXV - Knick It In The Bud Wtf is up with this lack of reason for voting like blah said above. It would definitely help us to come to some kind of conclusion for day 2 voting. Seeing as it ends in about an hour and we got nothing, reasoning would definitely help. __________________ IF YOU ARE THE BOMB YOU WILL CLICK THIS and if you dont, you suck.

08-13-2006, 09:22 PM	#260
Omeganitros auauauau Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Hee-Haw! Age: 35 Posts: 8,897	Re: TWG XXXV - Knick It In The Bud I want to give Guido a chance to start posting Day 3, and I thought up an interesting theory, and I have some other suspicions, but I want to save them all for at LEAST tommorrow. I don't see why Tasselfoot must die. I. Don't. See it. I really really really really really wish I could talk to Fish before I vote him, but time is pressing and I don't want Day 2 to end the way it's headed.

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