TWG CXLIV - The Freeze Wars (Sex Live)

[dLGN]

Originally Posted by Tokzic

this paragraph in particular makes it feel like you could be a wolf taking advantage of knowing the village prs identities and night strategy

i didn't even bother to think about how I would go about taking advantage of this as a wolf, and don't have to. but in the few moments I thought about that prospect it seemed like more of a hassle than it was worth, especially because I don't know any of you and don't feel particularly confident in my ability to pocket / manipulate any of you based on emotion/being friends/etc.

[Charu]

Originally Posted by dLGN

fine, then let's all play as lone wolves and not take advantage of the OOT chat and other unique / interesting parts of this setup. super.

Nice

This is definitely not what we're implying.

I just don't like your apparent "talk to me guys, you can trust me" shtick.

If you're town, this is actually quite the opposite of what you wanted to achieve. So good job there, buddy!

[dLGN]

Originally Posted by Charu

Nice

This is definitely not what we're implying.

I just don't like your apparent "talk to me guys, you can trust me" shtick.

If you're town, this is actually quite the opposite of what you wanted to achieve. So good job there, buddy!

with you, apparently. not necessarily with others

[AragakiAyase]

let's try something

here, let's pretend this is a vanilla game of ww.

hi dlgn, do you have any reads so far? who in this game are you most familiar with / read particularly well?

[Charu]

So, y'know, excusing this guy for a moment

One of your homeless peeps should do what I suggested few pages ago. I think it would be both fun and great for us.

I mean, you'll be playing super detective! A homeless guy being a detective!? WHOA!!!

Obviously the first one that comes out, I want the other one to just STAY SILENT PLEASE.

Dats all I ask.

[dLGN]

Originally Posted by Gradiant

if you don't understand that people aren't able to trust you right off the bat and that wolves can easily say this...

they can, sure. I do not deny that. and it's great that everybody is seemingly cautious, or pretending to be. i don't expect a homeless guy to run straight at me 2 minutes into the game just because of that one post. however, it's an idea i've had for a long time now and I didn't want to bother waiting any longer to throw it out there. hopefully if I am read correctly it'll happen eventually.

[Charu]

But of course, if both of you don't want this. That's cool too.

[dLGN]

Originally Posted by Charu

So, y'know, excusing this guy for a moment

One of your homeless peeps should do what I suggested few pages ago. I think it would be both fun and great for us.

I mean, you'll be playing super detective! A homeless guy being a detective!? WHOA!!!

Obviously the first one that comes out, I want the other one to just STAY SILENT PLEASE.

Dats all I ask.

and as a villager I strongly suggest you do not do this

[Charu]

Rather have a guy come out so we have an absolute than have the two make judgement calls and hope they don't pick the "wrong" people.

But again, it's there call, y'know. Can't really change that.

[Charu]

Or... lets put it more simply

I RATHER HAVE ONE PERSON THAT'S CONFIDENT OF JUDGING COME OUT than have two do it.

Lowers the margin of getting potential wolf in an alliance.

[Charu]

Okay, I got to shows now and then be gone until like 4:30-ish

Don't crash and burn while I'm gone, folks, hee hee hee.

[Charu]

Er... "showers"

There we go.

[botchi246]

So wait, i try to call out wolves? They are the bad guys right? What if i called out a townie? What if that homeless guy is really faking it and is something else? Can wolf eat a townie and stay wolf? Or is he part townie now? What if all these question are irrelevant to throw people off about a noob playing this game?

[Tokzic]

Originally Posted by dLGN

and as a villager I strongly suggest you do not do this

as a villager i am curious to know why you think it's a bad idea because i like charu's plan a lot more than yours

[Tokzic]

charu's plan:
- one of the prs claims, one of them stays secret
- that pr grills each player in private
- these private communications are then made public

dolgin's plan:
- both of the prs claim to dolgin
- dolgin heads the human alliance
- dolgin coordinates town's night actions

[Tokzic]

the one and only post you've made so far that i've agreed with is this one

Originally Posted by dLGN

probably not tbh, but I think the value of that pales in comparison to making them essentially masons and their identities unknown to all parties. clears make for shit scumhunting, at least early game.

there is utility to the homeless guys keeping secret for at least d1 since the wolves can't make smarter reads based around the clears and we'll definitely have both of our homeless guys d2 as long as neither of them attend the movie showing like a buffoon

and yet you are appealing for the hobos to come out to you right away

??????????????

[dLGN]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

let's try something

i like it!

if it's not clear, no, I don't know anybody here, and afaik nobody knows me (though I play video mafia quite regularly on DM / ryuzilla's all-stars twitch streams, so maybe you've seen me)

thesunfan (a listed sub) got me to make an account here a few months ago when a sub was needed for one of the arson versions of this game, though I wasn't needed in the end, and besides reading the setup then and I think a couple pages of posts I don't know how these games have played out so far.

as for reads, i've honestly been more interested in getting my idea out there and justifying it to people who are skeptical / dubious. considering the number of people who have tried to discredit what I believe is a strong strategy it's mechanically confirmed that one or more town are hesitant and that you are not all salty wolves trying to stop town from (more) safely identifying each other.

i think i like storn because unlike the rest of you pussies he actually voted me without saying much else. the rest are voicing their displeasure and unease, suggesting that I am wolfy, but aren't voting to back that up. while I'd certainly like to hear some actual thoughts from him, just based on his opening i'd say he is pretty unconcerned about his image and that's more town than not.

i liked roudbox's cinnamon response for some reason. not particularly alignment indicative but w/e.

also I liked AA for quoting that post by mrpop about, essentially, showing vs telling wrt alignments. particularly because he was showing how what I did was technically "scummy" without being accusatory and coming to a premature conclusion. seemed like he was interacting to interact, not to push an agenda.

cheers

[dLGN]

Originally Posted by Tokzic

the one and only post you've made so far that i've agreed with is this one



there is utility to the homeless guys keeping secret for at least d1 since the wolves can't make smarter reads based around the clears and we'll definitely have both of our homeless guys d2 as long as neither of them attend the movie showing like a buffoon

and yet you are appealing for the hobos to come out to you right away

??????????????

fair point indeed. i didn't expect anybody to come to me immediately fwiw but I suppose that could hamstring my own reads if it had happened.

[Tokzic]

can you explain why you are strongly opposed to charu's plan

[dLGN]

Originally Posted by Charu

Or... lets put it more simply

I RATHER HAVE ONE PERSON THAT'S CONFIDENT OF JUDGING COME OUT than have two do it.

Lowers the margin of getting potential wolf in an alliance.

see here's the funny part - if only one comes out, imagine the world in which that one person IS A WOLF and the real prs stay in the shadows thinking they are "the second homeless guy", woefully unaware of each other, while the (wolf)"clear" interrogates everybody and potentially finds the two of them and keeps them from each other.

I find your idea horrifically more dangerous for town.