DEFAULT WOLF VICTORY CONDITIONS (plz read)

**Kilgamayan** · 04-9-2007, 06:18 PM

The default wolf team victory condition is when the wolf population equals the human population at the end of a day interval after someone is voted off. Not after a night's wolf kill, not in the middle of the day, at the end of the day. (Obviously, if the wolf population exceeds the human population at any time then the game can be stopped because it is academic.)

Examples:

End of Day X: Person P is voted off, leaving N wolves and N humans. Wolves win.
Middle of Night X: Person P is wolfed, leaving N wolves and N humans. Play goes on.
Middle of Day X: Person P is vigilante'd or otherwise eliminated, leaving N wolves and N humans. Play goes on.
(Special example - Middle of Day X: Person P is vigi'd or otherwise eliminated, leaving N wolves and N-1 humans. Wolves win.)

Got that? Equal at END OF DAY.

Someone sticky this please.

EDIT: Giant Size 29 CapsLock angry rant gone because my mood has improved.

**alainbryden** · 08-1-2007, 07:17 PM

That can't be entirely right.

4 people left, 3 humans, 1 wolf.
End of day I, 1 human voted off, now 2 humans, one wolf
Start of day I+1 human is wolfed, now 1 human one wolf

each votes for the other, coin flip for the win. Eh No.

**lightdarkness** · 08-1-2007, 07:21 PM

No, the wolf would win.

**alainbryden** · 08-1-2007, 07:49 PM

Yeah I know that's how it SHOULD be, but Kilga implied no wolf win for tied population except at the time right after when votes were cast for the night.

I was just giving an example where this rule is clearly a mistake.

**talisman** · 08-1-2007, 07:50 PM

yeah it comes down to a coinflip if it's one human one wolf. I don't think that has ever happened though, largely because it requires there to be a successful guarding and for the game to last as long as it possibly can.

**alainbryden** · 08-1-2007, 07:54 PM

coin flip for the win makes no sense. The rule should be 1 human 1 wolf equals wolf win at any time. Any wolf that makes it that far deserves the win.

I mean I understand the theory. Daytime, wolf versus human, battle to the death, anyone can win, but nighttime wolf clearly has the advantage and wins in even numbers.

I still say it should be a wolf win when it's one on one on the last day, if not when it's even numbers any day.

04-9-2007, 06:18 PM	#1
Kilgamayan Super Scooter Happy Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Location, Location. Age: 39 Posts: 6,583	DEFAULT WOLF VICTORY CONDITIONS (plz read) The default wolf team victory condition is when the wolf population equals the human population at the end of a day interval after someone is voted off. Not after a night's wolf kill, not in the middle of the day, at the end of the day. (Obviously, if the wolf population exceeds the human population at any time then the game can be stopped because it is academic.) Examples: End of Day X: Person P is voted off, leaving N wolves and N humans. Wolves win. Middle of Night X: Person P is wolfed, leaving N wolves and N humans. Play goes on. Middle of Day X: Person P is vigilante'd or otherwise eliminated, leaving N wolves and N humans. Play goes on. (Special example - Middle of Day X: Person P is vigi'd or otherwise eliminated, leaving N wolves and N-1 humans. Wolves win.) Got that? Equal at END OF DAY. Someone sticky this please. EDIT: Giant Size 29 CapsLock angry rant gone because my mood has improved. __________________ I watched clouds awobbly from the floor o' that kayak. Souls cross ages like clouds cross skies, an' tho' a cloud's shape nor hue nor size don't stay the same, it's still a cloud an' so is a soul. Who can say where the cloud's blowed from or who the soul'll be 'morrow? Only Sonmi the east an' the west an' the compass an' the atlas, yay, only the atlas o' clouds. Last edited by Kilgamayan; 04-9-2007 at 06:22 PM..

08-1-2007, 07:17 PM	#2
alainbryden Seen your member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: noitacoL Posts: 2,873	Re: DEFAULT WOLF VICTORY CONDITIONS (plz read) That can't be entirely right. 4 people left, 3 humans, 1 wolf. End of day I, 1 human voted off, now 2 humans, one wolf Start of day I+1 human is wolfed, now 1 human one wolf each votes for the other, coin flip for the win. Eh No. __________________ ~NEIGH

08-1-2007, 07:21 PM	#3
lightdarkness Summer!! Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: New York Age: 35 Posts: 11,308	Re: DEFAULT WOLF VICTORY CONDITIONS (plz read) No, the wolf would win. __________________

08-1-2007, 07:49 PM	#4
alainbryden Seen your member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: noitacoL Posts: 2,873	Re: DEFAULT WOLF VICTORY CONDITIONS (plz read) Yeah I know that's how it SHOULD be, but Kilga implied no wolf win for tied population except at the time right after when votes were cast for the night. I was just giving an example where this rule is clearly a mistake. __________________ ~NEIGH

08-1-2007, 07:50 PM	#5
talisman Resident Penguin Join Date: May 2003 Age: 37 Posts: 4,598	Re: DEFAULT WOLF VICTORY CONDITIONS (plz read) yeah it comes down to a coinflip if it's one human one wolf. I don't think that has ever happened though, largely because it requires there to be a successful guarding and for the game to last as long as it possibly can.

08-1-2007, 07:54 PM	#6
alainbryden Seen your member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: noitacoL Posts: 2,873	Re: DEFAULT WOLF VICTORY CONDITIONS (plz read) coin flip for the win makes no sense. The rule should be 1 human 1 wolf equals wolf win at any time. Any wolf that makes it that far deserves the win. I mean I understand the theory. Daytime, wolf versus human, battle to the death, anyone can win, but nighttime wolf clearly has the advantage and wins in even numbers. I still say it should be a wolf win when it's one on one on the last day, if not when it's even numbers any day. __________________ ~NEIGH

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