jTWG LXVII postgame

[thesunfan]

sorry for the delay I couldn't get a stable connection from university wifi.

Anyways;
1.T-Force Killed Night 1
2.Soramimi Killed Night 2
3.Choof Won at Endgame
4.Toxophilis Lynched Day 3
5.danceflashrevo Lynched Day 2
6.reuben_tate Won at endgame
7.___________ Lynched Day 0
8.RNGRX (r) Killed Night 3
9.Samurai7694 Won at Endgame
10.XelNya Killed Night 3
11.blindreper1179 Won at Endgame
12.lurker Lynched Day 1
13.One Winged Angel Killed Night 1
MVP: Choof and Toxophilis

Quicktopics:
Samurai and V: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/fhmaNEXnYqG
Danceflashrevo and Cedolad: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/fpsEKfZbLC5cM
One Winged Angel and Yoshl: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/jgtQhZgQbA2bm
reuben_tate and Charles Claythorne: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/eXCbTs64SjLc6
blanky and Charu: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/jggXA3qqwhm6
Choof and Psychoangel: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/6xz8hbyyrxqD
T-Force and Gun: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/r8UT9v75wgd
Xelnya and Danceguy: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/MDVffseZWxy
R and Syhto: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/WPMhZCZQ2W2
Lurker and Manti: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/GQ2DfkctG4L
Blind and YMIA: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/bcT6EN3L2Dr3B
Soramimi and Funny: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/SSjWRcyqe9j
Toxophilis and James May: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/Jx4ecCPxkDN
Wolfchat: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/Cr7WEf426LBM

A few notes:

People held 0rbs when they shouldn't have, on both sides. When you're town, so long as you're relatively sure that you aren't going to vigi the tracker, offing someone the first night to ensure the 0rbs reset as well as possibly gaining a lynch by hitting a wolf or taking a kill away from the wolves is huge.
@Danceflash, you really had no reason to hold the wizard 0rb that night. That ended up hurting the village a little bit in the long run.
@lurker, not the biggest deal, but there was no downside to claiming in the thread. I still don't know how I missed Manti/your question in the QT (I checked them every couple of hours *shrug*), so I guess that is partially my bad.
@Tox, you really shouldn't have held the wizard 0rb that night. If the 0rbs reset and you survive the lynch and you get the vigi 0rb, you basically win the game the next night unless some hero town yolo wizard 0rbs you. If you get either of the other 0rbs, you're still in a good spot b/c you rob town of information. You also could've done a ballsy no-kill play with the wizard 0rb, but that's really risky.
Also, please don't let this be your last game I enjoyed watching you play =(.

A note to a some
@OWA, I called you dying N1 before the game started. Not much else to say other than you were really town and you were a threat.

@T-Force & blind. Going at each other like you did really accomplished nothing for town. Both of you were also very wrong because you were basing your worlds upon one thing that you didn't know to be true, which influenced your reads heavily. Learn from this, don't go all in in a game where hedging bets is huge (esp in a cardflipping game).
@blind specifically. You should not vote someone who is uncounterclaimed in a cardflipping game. The same problem came up in your first game. You know better than to have voted/suspected Xel when you voted him.
@blind cont. You have the activity that most people don't. Once you get on solid TWG-legs, you'll be a really solid player. Keep learning and be less impulsive. Also, you really need to learn that sometimes villagers are just really wrong.

@Samurai and R. Activity was low from both of you, I know you're both new and you did both ask questions... I do hope you've learned a bit from this and when you play again, see if you can be a bit more active. You both have the right idea with asking questions but you need to be active. Also, props to Samurai for setting up the endgame with the correct shot.

@______________. Kinda lost for your first game, I think the difference between your two games is very large. I'd work on reading some of your previous town games, and trying to emulate that when you're a wolf.

@Choof & Tox. You both did pretty well considering how new you are. MVP of each side respectively goes to both of you. Tox basically was the wolf team and Choof was the most correct and most vocal human. I don't really have much else to say that I didn't say already.

@mittens. Claim wasn't the worst thing I've ever seen in my entire life, I will admit. I think if you had waited another day, town wouldn't have really been in a different position but I think that's just the way the cookie crumbled this game. It wasn't likely, but you could've thrown the game claiming there, but I think you know that already. Posting who had the 0rbs should've been done closer to the deadline in case choof hadn't claimed the seer 0rb, but since he had already it doesn't really matter.

@Reese. already given you your notes, mainly. You and Samurai both are better than you give yourselves credit for.

@lurker. Similar to choof and tox, you are very good considering how new you are. You were pretty correct this game and your lynch was probably the worst thing that town did that game. I don't have much to say, you listened to your coach probably more than anyone else did, so huge props for that, I was also pretty surprised to see that as well.

@sora. You're just too town all the time. Wolves are forced into killing you, which is good when you're VT. Be proud of how town you can look when you try. Its a good skill to have.

@ben. *insert presence joke here*. You really started putting the puzzle together towards the end. Your AFKness didn't really impact the game at all in the early stages, which was lucky, and coming back to a game of TWG is something few do once they've gotten behind, so gj for manning up there. You had good logic and being good at math/predicting ahead based on the number of wolves/town is something few newbies do and I saw you do that a little bit alongside choof. Well done for that.

That about sums it up, I think. If there's anything else, hmu. Was a pretty succesful jTWG, the one thing I'd like to have seen more of is coaching. Reading the QTs might be a bit dry as there's not very much in most of them. Anyways, gg, glad no one managed to get banned this time.

[Toxophilis]

yeaaaa i did ask for advice from the coach on what to do, it was a really hard choice but i think i would have died anyway considering R ripperoni'd

yay choof joint mvp!!

[lurker]

i have a good amount of respect for manti (mod etc) so of course i was gonna listen to him rofl (except for his proposal to push onto dfr after i had a few votes against me; i think that would've been too unexpected and would've guaranteed my death)
i'm not gonna lie, i feel like i derailed the game pretty hard by "clearing" tox because there was no way i should've let this post make me think she was tracker
i don't regret pushing onto luis though, it seemed completely reasonable at the time

[lurker]

of course charu was guiding the first wolf to die
did luis and v talk outside of qt at all? i'd be a lot more impressed with luis' vigi kill if they didn't and i'd probably choose him for mvp over choof
and yeah tox not using the wizard orb was just a poor decision

[Toxophilis]

probably would have worked better in an earlier day, woops

[choof]

i think samurai killing r is way more important than anything i ever did this game
has he not killed r, wolves would have won

[Charu]

Originally Posted by lurker

of course charu was guiding the first wolf to die

I tried... =C

I wanted him to start defending himself within his character. I don't think he heeded my advice all that much.

[One Winged Angel]

was fun to watch gg town, set up another one quickly I'm salty I died so early on

[DarkManticoreX2]

Originally Posted by One Winged Angel

was fun to watch gg town, set up another one quickly I'm salty I died so early on

Quick word of advice, You and Sora both come across very town pretty quickly. Your reads are fast and mesh well with a lot of other people.

This is good because it clears you as human pretty fast
This is bad because wolves have to eliminate cleared humans asap, and generally this leads to you two dying early.

[DarkManticoreX2]

I think we coulda gotten a DFR kill on D2. There was a lot of people leaning in that direction, but nobody wanted to start the train.

It's possible you would have died anyway. Who knows?

[One Winged Angel]

I completely expected to die N1 given how town others read me as. I didn't know the wizard orb prevented wolfkills not only through blocking the wolf sending in the kill but also as a guard on the player targeted, otherwise I probably would've asked for myself or soramimi to be guarded that night.

The wizard orb description was a bit confusing.

[Toxophilis]

also lurker no hard feelings i was having the week from hell and that affected every post i made in and out of twg

your quicktopic was great btw

[choof]

#tooturnt #tootown

[James May]

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

This is bad because wolves have to eliminate cleared humans asap, and generally this leads to you two dying early.

Actually, I was telling tox about this after night 1's event on not killing a confirmed town and to kill off some random outlier lmao

[lurker]

yeah, the wizard orb wasn't explained adequately and that led to a lot of rustled jimmies that shouldn't have been rustled on d2
oh yeah, and manti getting me to think a lot was fucking awesome

[choof]

"Shoot dat penis niger in da dick." - manti

[Vendetta21]

sunfan never sent me my quicktopic so i was not able to coach at all

[lurker]

wooooooooooooooooooooow dat hate

[choof]

til that r is a gril

????

[danceflashrevo]

Final thoughts:

Manti trying to kill me? Wao you hate me obv i see how it is ;~;

Midi: you fucking spilled me indirectly why are you so good

tsf: <3 for making me feel better


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I really shouldn't play twg while school is happening because I do dumb shit that makes people think I'm a wolf lol. I made really dumb decisions and stuff, couldn't think hard enough because I was focused on school at the same time, etc. I also didn't really understand the wizard orb enough to make a good decision d0. You can ask tsf about the millions of questions that I asked about it xD

Do I get the noob of the game award again?

My MVP: tox: you had such a town read from everyone but to me everything fell apart when you had to make an excuse for the wizard orb not being used.


Anyways, gg everyone and I hope to play in the future; I'll have to wait until another school break though xP

Thanks for hosting tsunderefishere