Completely Revised Official Tier Point System

[i love you]

Originally Posted by Enginuity

I'm willing to make an outline, but I don't want it to turn into a list of my 20-25 favorite/best songs from each difficulty level. Any advice/ideas on how to do that?

Also, would comments on the song choices be useful or would they be completely unnecessary?

In general, we would want people to choose songs that are reasonable for the community however if you are not really sure what songs those may be then by all means choose your favorite/best songs for each difficulty and just send that in to us. That also applies to everyone else who does an outline.

To answer your second question, feel free to add comments on your song choices if you wish. Would definitely be useful.

[EzExZeRo7497]

I got a suggestion but I don't know if you guys have actually thought about this, have you thought of adding a high score list for tier points?

Something like the average rank list, high scores for individual songs, grand total, etc.

It can give some competition for people who are playing for Tier Points and probably show where they stand compared to other FFR players.

[ic0slay3r]

Originally Posted by EzExZeRo7497

I got a suggestion but I don't know if you guys have actually thought about this, have you thought of adding a high score list for tier points?

Something like the average rank list, high scores for individual songs, grand total, etc.

It can give some competition for people who are playing for Tier Points and probably show where they stand compared to other FFR players.

I think that already exists:

http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...ier_points.php

[SkRAWRk]

Okay, I've submitted mine. :3 Kinda disappointed I forgot to include Garyuutensei, but hey, it's only one song, so whatever. ^_^

[i love you]

@EzExZeRo7497: ic0slay3r answered your question! :>

@ic0slay3r: Thank you so much for answering his question. Really appreciate it.

Also, thank you so much SkRAWRk for submitting your outline! You will be mentioned including everyone else who submits an outline.

[master q60]

random question, did you get my outline?

[WTF WRECKED]

This is the list of people we have received outlines from:

Elite Ninja
rushyrulz
master q60
stavie33
XX{Midnight}xX
ic0slayer
SkRAWRk

If you are not on this list and you already sent us an outline then please by all means resend the outline to my PM!

[SkRAWRk]

Originally Posted by i love you

Also, thank you so much SkRAWRk for submitting your outline! You will be mentioned including everyone else who submits an outline.

'Twas my pleasure, thank you for co-ordinating this whole thing. ^___^

I hope my list is okay, I've played most of the songs before on the lightdarkness engine or my old account, but I might've over-looked a few. >_>

Oh, and is there going to be any community input into FMO's/FGO's or is that part going to be solely decided upon by you guys?

[qqwref]

Most of the FMOs and FGOs are going to be represented, although we're getting rid of the ones that are unfairly hard to unlock or FC, so we don't really need input on that. But we're only including a small proportion of the lower-ranked songs (and all three of us tend to play higher-ranked songs anyway), so community input is really important there.

[i love you]

Originally Posted by SkRAWRk

Oh, and is there going to be any community input into FMO's/FGO's or is that part going to be solely decided upon by you guys?

We will come up with the FMO/FGO list and then post it on the 3rd post of this thread to see if the community disagrees with it or not. From there, we will finalize the lists until the majority of the community is satisfied.

EDIT: Pretty much what Michael said but in greater detail.

[UserNameGoesHere]

I have a suggestion for whenever the tier point system is finalized.

Since vROFL has been given two persistence ways to attain it (either 1 bil score in a day or 50 bil total) how about one skill-based way to attain being if you achieve ALL the tier points, you're awarded vROFL? That should only be implemented once all the bugs are worked out of the tier point system and it is deemed hard enough, though.

That is my suggestion. Yay or Nay?

Of course someone high up would need to agree to this for it to happen.

[i love you]

That would be up to Dom. He has final say on vROFL requirements

EDIT: I like your idea but it seems way too strict. In my opinion, if there was another vROFL requirement that had something to do with Tier Points, I think the requirement should be "if you reach Tier 0" or something instead of getting "ALL Tier Points"

[xXOpkillerXx]

Originally Posted by UserNameGoesHere

I have a suggestion for whenever the tier point system is finalized.

Since vROFL has been given two persistence ways to attain it (either 1 bil score in a day or 50 bil total) how about one skill-based way to attain being if you achieve ALL the tier points, you're awarded vROFL? That should only be implemented once all the bugs are worked out of the tier point system and it is deemed hard enough, though.

That is my suggestion. Yay or Nay?

Of course someone high up would need to agree to this for it to happen.

That would just mean that you give another way to earn vRofl for pro players only. People should stop asking for more ways to earn that song IMO... Your suggestion is that when you get good enough to AAA almost every hard song, you get a bonus, meaning you didn't even work for it, you just played normally, became better at the game and prolly lowered your avrank by a lot . Actually, vRofl requires a person to focus on the whoring objective and to show dedication on that token Only.

[LJRoX]

Originally Posted by xXOpkillerXx

That would just mean that you give another way to earn vRofl for pro players only. People should stop asking for more ways to earn that song IMO... Your suggestion is that when you get good enough to AAA almost every hard song, you get a bonus, meaning you didn't even work for it, you just played normally, became better at the game and prolly lowered your avrank by a lot . Actually, vRofl requires a person to focus on the whoring objective and to show dedication on that token Only.

Your logic is very broken lol.
The average FFR player won't be able to achieve vRofl without stamina.
vRofl was already a token aiming for the pro players, if you had already noticed... that was already discontinued.

[xXOpkillerXx]

Originally Posted by LJRoX

Your logic is very broken lol.
The average FFR player won't be able to achieve vRofl without stamina.
vRofl was already a token aiming for the pro players, if you had already noticed... that was already discontinued.

Sorry, I should've said godly players then, I don't consider myself as a pro FFR player. Anyway, what I meant is pretty simple; the suggestion he made means that all godly players will earn vRofl w/o even going for it. Now you would say "Dude wtf they ARE going for it if they try to get all tier points, that's even HARDER than the two actual requirements!!"... I Know that, but that way, they're earning 2 things, lower avrank + vRofl token and actually you only get vRofl token (+ Overall rank but hey, that's so useless...). That would go against the 1Bil in a day or 50Bil GT reqs, because these two give pretty much nothing else than the token.

[i love you]

This is not a vROFL requirements argument/debate thread, it is a Tier Point revised thread. Let's keep it that way please. As I have said before, Dom has final say on the vROFL requirements. If anyone has any more suggestions or thoughts about the vROFL requirements, PM him about it.

[qqwref]

With the new 10+ point system we can easily deal with AAAs on the very hardest songs, and I think we will do that, because that way there is always a challenge even for the top players. Unless Doss goes and AAAs DP and RATO (and CP), I don't think anyone will be getting a full Tier Point bar.

[SkRAWRk]

I thought CP wasn't going to be included in this list? I'd prefer it to be, that's just what I read though.

At least we get some input on FMO/FGO requirements then, thanks for clearing that up for me Byron. :3

[qqwref]

Yeah, it won't be in the list, but you'll still need all the (public?) AAAs to get all of the bonus points

[SkRAWRk]

Ahh, okay then. :3 Are you working out any possible bonus TP when you go to do the FMO/FGO list too? :3