SM Scores ~2013 Remix~ - Page 272

Wafles · 10-8-2013, 02:11 PM

Juan is legit. The vid is proof enough for me. Those keytaps sound super clean.
It is technically possible to cheese the SMO server with 3.9 and make your MA look way better than it is, but it as far as I know only a few people know how to do this.

L.B.D.D · 10-8-2013, 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wafles

It is technically possible to cheese the SMO server with 3.9 and make your MA look way better than it is, but it as far as I know only a few people know how to do this.

basically ur saying people can cheat smo server
and people know how to do it

uh oh

**i love you** · 10-8-2013, 02:17 PM

Wafles · 10-8-2013, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L.B.D.D

basically ur saying people can cheat smo server
and people know how to do it

uh oh

Yeah people can cheat. I've only caught 1 person doing it, and it is really really easy to tell when someone is doing this because their MA will far exceed their skill level.

Ultimate proof is and always will be taking a vid and showing your timing windows directly from the .ini file.

**rCaliberGX** · 10-8-2013, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wafles

Yeah people can cheat. I've only caught 1 person doing it, and it is really really easy to tell when someone is doing this because their MA will far exceed their skill level.

Ultimate proof is and always will be taking a vid and showing your timing windows directly from the .ini file.

i no hao

i tried it on another account but while my ma went like 10x better i got so many early goods/boos

xNiX · 10-8-2013, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wafles

Ultimate proof is and always will be taking a vid and showing your timing windows directly from the .ini file.

problem with the ini file in that video is his directory wasn't shown. I could have opened any legit ini file placed in another sm folder just to pass it off. There are multiple things that make me question that video since it wasn't done correctly. another proof video would have to be done the right way in order for me to believe he's legit. But you know what? Do you boo boo

ilikexd · 10-8-2013, 02:33 PM

how about you post scores that aren't ONLY obtained on smo, juan?

you've posted a lot of scores so far and literally 100% have been done on smo, which is kind of bizarre

anyway, i have no idea how the nature of cheating smo's timing system works, but if it can be done and not show up when looking at timing windows than the video doesn't prove anything

**rCaliberGX** · 10-8-2013, 02:42 PM

gimme a sec to post an smo bs score for example

also yeah ilikexd, it has nothing to do with timing windows

edit: not sure if i should actually post it because the screenshot actually shows how to do it right away rofl

**Dynam0** · 10-8-2013, 02:50 PM

Clean key taps + proof that it isn't sped up should be enough to indicate legitimate playing. The biggest reason why this community doesn't bs call much anymore is because taking videos is so much easier now (cell phones hello). I am basically only ever skeptical of people who refuse to post videos with hands shown lol

xNiX · 10-8-2013, 02:51 PM

He needs to do a proof video similar to ddrkid or leonid. That video was very poor.

**rCaliberGX** · 10-8-2013, 02:56 PM

should i post an smo bs score to prove it can be done? the method used is a dead giveaway in it though

**i love you** · 10-8-2013, 02:59 PM

Yeah, do not post it.

Also, I think the absolute best way to show if you are legit is to literally do this:

1. Start up the computer and sign in.
2. Show all programs running in the taskbar.
3. Open SM folder.
4. Show ini and CLOSE ini. (Bonus if you show the last time the ini was modified by placing your mouse on top of the folder or right clicking the ini and going to properties).
5. Open Stepmania from the data folder without closing the SM folder. (This is just to show that you are using the same exact directory folder on the SM you are running).
6. Show judge and exit off.
7. Play a song and screenshot the result.
8. Press scroll lock and show judge again.
9. Close Stepmania.
10. Go back to your SM folder (that still should be open) and show your SS of the score you just got in the screenshot folder.
11. Go to data folder and show ini again.

Doing it this way will show that:

1. You are not running any sort of bots or special programs.
2. Shows that you are using the exact same SM directory with no modifications within the ini file.
3. It shows us what you are doing at all times during the video.

Also, having a good camera helps even more however I am aware that not everyone have good ones.

EDIT: Not trying to say that he is BS since I have no proof that he is however making a video doing what I have mentioned usually clears suspicions.

xNiX · 10-8-2013, 03:00 PM

You can but it honestly wouldn't mean anything at this point if it's known to be possible to cheat on a smo server.

**rCaliberGX** · 10-8-2013, 03:08 PM

also note that the method to smo bs cannot be done offline either, so he should post offline scores as ilikexd said

**DossarLX ODI** · 10-8-2013, 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rCaliberGX

also note that the method to smo bs cannot be done offline either, so he should post offline scores as ilikexd said

You could send a personal message to Dynam0 or whomever about it. It doesn't need to be made public.

Wafles · 10-8-2013, 03:46 PM

SMO shows your client score unless you tap right or left, in which case your % score would show up in your options/modifiers list.

http://stepmaniaonline.net/index.php...=1561&sid=2822

Either way, his 4 perfect run of Frozen Sky shows up as either 1 perfect or 2 perfects on SMO, which is clear indication that he is showing his client score, not the online score.

Even more than this you can check that list of his best scores online (for any song, not just Frozen Sky), and you can see that his MA has been steadily improving for months.

I have a hard time believing people want more proof than this.

EtienneSM · 10-8-2013, 03:54 PM

I remember I had to go through this bullshit when I AAA'd Superluminal...
Well, I didn't have to, I was just going to get constantly bitched at if I didn't. I would suggest you make a video of you doing what Byron (i love you) said, Juan. It will clear things up and will assure that you are 100% not BS.

SpoOkyMagician · 10-8-2013, 04:04 PM

Meh, I was bored yesterday and played some long songs...

Not bad I suppose.

~ SpoOkyMagician

V-Ormix · 10-8-2013, 05:24 PM

yeah jaun seems about as legit as old cartoon to be honest although his miss count can seem oddly high on some files

at least hes not total bs like

L.B.D.D · 10-8-2013, 05:31 PM

chileans tend to have 1-2 sec of mini seizure when they realize they have a quad on a long song from time to time

10-8-2013, 02:11 PM	#5421
Wafles FFR Player Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,988	Re: SM Scores ~2013 Remix~ Juan is legit. The vid is proof enough for me. Those keytaps sound super clean. It is technically possible to cheese the SMO server with 3.9 and make your MA look way better than it is, but it as far as I know only a few people know how to do this. __________________ http://smleaderboards.net/profile/view/Wafles

10-8-2013, 02:17 PM	#5423
i love you Live a wonderful life~ Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,313	Re: SM Scores ~2013 Remix~ wut __________________ =============================== The idea that RDCP 3 may come out in the future is a fun thought to have~ ===============================

10-8-2013, 02:33 PM	#5427
ilikexd Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,205	Re: SM Scores ~2013 Remix~ how about you post scores that aren't ONLY obtained on smo, juan? you've posted a lot of scores so far and literally 100% have been done on smo, which is kind of bizarre anyway, i have no idea how the nature of cheating smo's timing system works, but if it can be done and not show up when looking at timing windows than the video doesn't prove anything

10-8-2013, 02:50 PM	#5429
Dynam0 The Dominator Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: North Bay, ON Age: 34 Posts: 8,987	Re: SM Scores ~2013 Remix~ Clean key taps + proof that it isn't sped up should be enough to indicate legitimate playing. The biggest reason why this community doesn't bs call much anymore is because taking videos is so much easier now (cell phones hello). I am basically only ever skeptical of people who refuse to post videos with hands shown lol

10-8-2013, 02:51 PM	#5430
xNiX FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 1,063	Re: SM Scores ~2013 Remix~ He needs to do a proof video similar to ddrkid or leonid. That video was very poor. __________________

10-8-2013, 02:59 PM	#5432
i love you Live a wonderful life~ Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,313	Re: SM Scores ~2013 Remix~ Yeah, do not post it. Also, I think the absolute best way to show if you are legit is to literally do this: 1. Start up the computer and sign in. 2. Show all programs running in the taskbar. 3. Open SM folder. 4. Show ini and CLOSE ini. (Bonus if you show the last time the ini was modified by placing your mouse on top of the folder or right clicking the ini and going to properties). 5. Open Stepmania from the data folder without closing the SM folder. (This is just to show that you are using the same exact directory folder on the SM you are running). 6. Show judge and exit off. 7. Play a song and screenshot the result. 8. Press scroll lock and show judge again. 9. Close Stepmania. 10. Go back to your SM folder (that still should be open) and show your SS of the score you just got in the screenshot folder. 11. Go to data folder and show ini again. Doing it this way will show that: 1. You are not running any sort of bots or special programs. 2. Shows that you are using the exact same SM directory with no modifications within the ini file. 3. It shows us what you are doing at all times during the video. Also, having a good camera helps even more however I am aware that not everyone have good ones. EDIT: Not trying to say that he is BS since I have no proof that he is however making a video doing what I have mentioned usually clears suspicions. __________________ =============================== The idea that RDCP 3 may come out in the future is a fun thought to have~ =============================== Last edited by i love you; 10-8-2013 at 03:03 PM..

10-8-2013, 03:00 PM	#5433
xNiX FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 1,063	Re: SM Scores ~2013 Remix~ You can but it honestly wouldn't mean anything at this point if it's known to be possible to cheat on a smo server. __________________

10-8-2013, 03:46 PM	#5436
Wafles FFR Player Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 1,988	Re: SM Scores ~2013 Remix~ SMO shows your client score unless you tap right or left, in which case your % score would show up in your options/modifiers list. http://stepmaniaonline.net/index.php...=1561&sid=2822 Either way, his 4 perfect run of Frozen Sky shows up as either 1 perfect or 2 perfects on SMO, which is clear indication that he is showing his client score, not the online score. Even more than this you can check that list of his best scores online (for any song, not just Frozen Sky), and you can see that his MA has been steadily improving for months. I have a hard time believing people want more proof than this. __________________ http://smleaderboards.net/profile/view/Wafles

10-8-2013, 04:04 PM	#5438
SpoOkyMagician Forum User Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 378	Re: SM Scores ~2013 Remix~ Meh, I was bored yesterday and played some long songs... Not bad I suppose. ~ SpoOkyMagician

10-8-2013, 05:24 PM	#5439
V-Ormix Banned Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 4,677	Re: SM Scores ~2013 Remix~ yeah jaun seems about as legit as old cartoon to be honest although his miss count can seem oddly high on some files at least hes not total bs like

10-8-2013, 05:31 PM	#5440
L.B.D.D FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: San Francisco, CA Posts: 2,949	Re: SM Scores ~2013 Remix~ chileans tend to have 1-2 sec of mini seizure when they realize they have a quad on a long song from time to time

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