Super Smash Brothers Brawl - Page 129

colt.45 · 03-21-2008, 04:18 PM

0.o
one way that seems to work with pikachu, is to grab onto the edge , then do down b, hits the guys on the side , jump back up to ledge and keep doing it over, but its kind of hard to do

Evan_28 · 03-21-2008, 05:00 PM

Why there's not for sale ssbb in italy >______>

**Coolboyrulez0** · 03-21-2008, 05:25 PM

Because it comes out in the summer in Europe, as far as i know.

**Squeek** · 03-21-2008, 06:49 PM

Cruel Brawl:

Jigglypuff. Three jumps underneath the stage to other side. Ledge. Drop, repeat.

You'll soon learn what kind of motions lure the guys to drop off the side and follow you despite not being able to get to you.

ckj846 · 03-21-2008, 07:21 PM

I remember I did cruel on melee with peach. Lure them (easy since she floats) and get under a platform, d-smash until their percents are above 50% and then f-air them to death. I think I got around 25? Takes a lot of practice though.

O_o

ducky285 · 03-21-2008, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Afrobean

"no items" what

He means the gold hammers you use to open challenge windows without actually working for them.

Also, I got 11 in Cruel Brawl using Jiggs and going under the ledge over and over again. I just let myself die after that.

**Squeek** · 03-21-2008, 07:43 PM

How can you use a golden unlock hammer to rack up 10 kills in cruel brawl?

You can unlock the "10 kills in cruel brawl" challenge with a golden hammer, but you can't get 10 kills in cruel brawl with a golden hammer.

Oh, the power of punctuation. Nobody believed me when I said it was necessary. In your face.

Afrobean · 03-21-2008, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ducky285

He means the gold hammers you use to open challenge windows without actually working for them.

Wait.

What.

ducky285 · 03-21-2008, 08:30 PM

Go to Challenges and look at the bottom of the screen for gold hammer symbols.

Every now and then (usually after completing certain tasks) you earn a Golden Hammer which you can use to break a window of your choosing without having to fulfill the requirements shown on it. Apparently, it doesn't work on ALL windows but it works on most.

http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamem...various22.html

Explains it all here

Also, I just realized the Challenge system is derived from Kirby Air Ride. I just got Air Ride last week and saw it and went "oh...".

Also, I saw the distinct similarities in terms of menu design between Air Ride and Brawl (and also Melee to an extent). Oh HAL, you rambunctious scamps, you.

**Squeek** · 03-21-2008, 08:38 PM

Master Hand is from Kirby Superstar. The concept of Trophies is from Kirby Superstar. The platforming elements of SSE are from Kirby Superstar. Odd little mini-game concepts like home-run contest and targets are based on the mini-game concepts of Kirby Superstar.

Pretty much everything except the characters are based on Kirby games

**Coolboyrulez0** · 03-21-2008, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squeek

Master Hand is from Kirby Superstar. The concept of Trophies is from Kirby Superstar. The platforming elements of SSE are from Kirby Superstar. Odd little mini-game concepts like home-run contest and targets are based on the mini-game concepts of Kirby Superstar.

Pretty much everything except the characters are based on Kirby games

I never noticed it but now that you mentioned it, your right.
What a big ripoff. Just kidding, the game is still awesome. They just expanded on the Kirby games, if you can call it that.

CBR

Now tell me guys which one should I break? I have 2 golden hammers remaining

Afrobean · 03-21-2008, 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squeek

Master Hand is from Kirby Superstar. The concept of Trophies is from Kirby Superstar. The platforming elements of SSE are from Kirby Superstar. Odd little mini-game concepts like home-run contest and targets are based on the mini-game concepts of Kirby Superstar.

Pretty much everything except the characters are based on Kirby games

You heard it folks!

Squeek thinks Kirby games are fighters.

In all seriousness, did the idea of living statues/dolls/figurines/trophies really come from Kirby in the first place?

Relambrien · 03-21-2008, 09:00 PM

Masahiro Sakurai, the lead developer for Brawl, also created Kirby. That's why there are so many similarities.

**bmah** · 03-21-2008, 09:02 PM

In Kirby Superstar, you collected trophies in a game called the Great Cave Offensive, but they were just for collective purposes. I don't recall any statues/inanimate objects coming to life.

ducky285 · 03-21-2008, 09:24 PM

I've known about the Kirby Super Star stuff for a while. I just found the challenge system being almost identical to Air Ride's to be somewhat amusing.

You forgot to mention that they took the lobby music from All-Star in Melee from the Great Cave Offensive's save room.

All the gang fights in SSE are similar to the various fights against the Meta-Knights in Kirby's Adventure and Super Star.

Drop-through floors have been in Kirby games since the beginning, probably why they're used in Smash.

The Jyk's in SSE are just Gordos with a different look.

Master/Crazy Hand wasn't in Super Star, but Wam Bam Rock is decidedly similar enough to think that MH was heavily inspired by him. They practically have the same attacks (or similar attacks at the very least).

Also, the only minigames in Super Star were the Samurai one (which is based on Kirby's Adventure's Quick Draw game) and Megaton Punch, neither of which bare any similarity to the minigames in Smash.

You didn't collect trophies, but you collected treasures that were similar in nature to those in Smash, particularly because they usually came from various other Nintendo games. It's a bit of a stretch, but I guess you could call the ability icons from Super Star trophies in a way.

Ridley and Meta-Ridley in SSE behave a lot like Dyna Blade. Tabuu reminds me of Marx with his quick warping and his giant laser.

**Squeek** · 03-21-2008, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Afrobean

You heard it folks!

Squeek thinks Kirby games are fighters.

In all seriousness, did the idea of living statues/dolls/figurines/trophies really come from Kirby in the first place?

Living trophies? No. The concept of collecting Nintendo items in the form of treasure is from Superstar.

Ducky has the rest.

Go play Kirby Superstar. In particular, The Great Cave Offensive. Tell me if you don't see a story-less SSE.

ducky285 · 03-22-2008, 12:47 AM

By the way, I heard they're remaking Super Star for DS.

Off-topic, I know, but I felt like posting it because KSS is in my top 5 SNES games. Best Kirby game IMO.

YNXOT · 03-22-2008, 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ducky285

By the way, I heard they're remaking Super Star for DS.

Off-topic, I know, but I felt like posting it because KSS is in my top 5 SNES games. Best Kirby game IMO.

oh heck yeah dude i cant wait i hope that it really does come out for the DS i would really hope so

**Squeek** · 03-22-2008, 05:17 PM

Ok so I lack creativity.

I needed custom stages to get the 5-stage challenge unlock. I made a small one that was a box with a small opening at the top.

Basically I just proved that Marth's Final Smash isn't a 1HKO. It does 100% damage, yes, but it can't kill you if you stay inside the stage. Sure, he bounced around and hit 6 walls before coming to a stop, but still! It's not a 1HKO! Proof!

korny · 03-22-2008, 05:35 PM

Well i'm sure nothing is a one hit kill when that aspect comes into play.

03-21-2008, 04:18 PM	#2561
colt.45 WASHED UP Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Arizona Age: 32 Posts: 1,549	Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl 0.o one way that seems to work with pikachu, is to grab onto the edge , then do down b, hits the guys on the side , jump back up to ledge and keep doing it over, but its kind of hard to do

03-21-2008, 05:00 PM	#2562
Evan_28 FFR Player Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Italy Age: 34 Posts: 122	Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl Why there's not for sale ssbb in italy >______>

03-21-2008, 05:25 PM	#2563
Coolboyrulez0 VICES Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Germany Age: 30 Posts: 10,031	Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl Because it comes out in the summer in Europe, as far as i know.

03-21-2008, 06:49 PM	#2564
Squeek let it snow~ Join Date: Jan 2004 Age: 37 Posts: 14,444	Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl Cruel Brawl: Jigglypuff. Three jumps underneath the stage to other side. Ledge. Drop, repeat. You'll soon learn what kind of motions lure the guys to drop off the side and follow you despite not being able to get to you.

03-21-2008, 07:21 PM	#2565
ckj846 FFR Player Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Fremont, California Age: 33 Posts: 2,437	Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl I remember I did cruel on melee with peach. Lure them (easy since she floats) and get under a platform, d-smash until their percents are above 50% and then f-air them to death. I think I got around 25? Takes a lot of practice though. O_o __________________ pyro31191: TELL EVERYONE YOU WANT TO TAKE IT IN THE ASS NOW pyro31191: rofl pyro31191: You should tell them earlier though pyro31191: so they can buy dildos instead of fleshlights

03-21-2008, 07:43 PM	#2567
Squeek let it snow~ Join Date: Jan 2004 Age: 37 Posts: 14,444	Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl How can you use a golden unlock hammer to rack up 10 kills in cruel brawl? You can unlock the "10 kills in cruel brawl" challenge with a golden hammer, but you can't get 10 kills in cruel brawl with a golden hammer. Oh, the power of punctuation. Nobody believed me when I said it was necessary. In your face.

03-21-2008, 08:30 PM	#2569
ducky285 FFR Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cicero, IL Age: 39 Posts: 1,388	Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl Go to Challenges and look at the bottom of the screen for gold hammer symbols. Every now and then (usually after completing certain tasks) you earn a Golden Hammer which you can use to break a window of your choosing without having to fulfill the requirements shown on it. Apparently, it doesn't work on ALL windows but it works on most. http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/gamem...various22.html Explains it all here Also, I just realized the Challenge system is derived from Kirby Air Ride. I just got Air Ride last week and saw it and went "oh...". Also, I saw the distinct similarities in terms of menu design between Air Ride and Brawl (and also Melee to an extent). Oh HAL, you rambunctious scamps, you. __________________ Quack quack quack

03-21-2008, 08:38 PM	#2570
Squeek let it snow~ Join Date: Jan 2004 Age: 37 Posts: 14,444	Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl Master Hand is from Kirby Superstar. The concept of Trophies is from Kirby Superstar. The platforming elements of SSE are from Kirby Superstar. Odd little mini-game concepts like home-run contest and targets are based on the mini-game concepts of Kirby Superstar. Pretty much everything except the characters are based on Kirby games

03-21-2008, 09:00 PM	#2573
Relambrien FFR Player Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Age: 32 Posts: 1,644	Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl Masahiro Sakurai, the lead developer for Brawl, also created Kirby. That's why there are so many similarities.

03-21-2008, 09:02 PM	#2574
bmah shots FIRED Global Moderator, User Support, Judge Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Edmonton, AB Age: 36 Posts: 8,448	Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl In Kirby Superstar, you collected trophies in a game called the Great Cave Offensive, but they were just for collective purposes. I don't recall any statues/inanimate objects coming to life.

03-21-2008, 09:24 PM	#2575
ducky285 FFR Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cicero, IL Age: 39 Posts: 1,388	Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl I've known about the Kirby Super Star stuff for a while. I just found the challenge system being almost identical to Air Ride's to be somewhat amusing. You forgot to mention that they took the lobby music from All-Star in Melee from the Great Cave Offensive's save room. All the gang fights in SSE are similar to the various fights against the Meta-Knights in Kirby's Adventure and Super Star. Drop-through floors have been in Kirby games since the beginning, probably why they're used in Smash. The Jyk's in SSE are just Gordos with a different look. Master/Crazy Hand wasn't in Super Star, but Wam Bam Rock is decidedly similar enough to think that MH was heavily inspired by him. They practically have the same attacks (or similar attacks at the very least). Also, the only minigames in Super Star were the Samurai one (which is based on Kirby's Adventure's Quick Draw game) and Megaton Punch, neither of which bare any similarity to the minigames in Smash. You didn't collect trophies, but you collected treasures that were similar in nature to those in Smash, particularly because they usually came from various other Nintendo games. It's a bit of a stretch, but I guess you could call the ability icons from Super Star trophies in a way. Ridley and Meta-Ridley in SSE behave a lot like Dyna Blade. Tabuu reminds me of Marx with his quick warping and his giant laser. __________________ Quack quack quack

03-22-2008, 12:47 AM	#2577
ducky285 FFR Player Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Cicero, IL Age: 39 Posts: 1,388	Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl By the way, I heard they're remaking Super Star for DS. Off-topic, I know, but I felt like posting it because KSS is in my top 5 SNES games. Best Kirby game IMO. __________________ Quack quack quack

03-22-2008, 05:17 PM	#2579
Squeek let it snow~ Join Date: Jan 2004 Age: 37 Posts: 14,444	Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl Ok so I lack creativity. I needed custom stages to get the 5-stage challenge unlock. I made a small one that was a box with a small opening at the top. Basically I just proved that Marth's Final Smash isn't a 1HKO. It does 100% damage, yes, but it can't kill you if you stay inside the stage. Sure, he bounced around and hit 6 walls before coming to a stop, but still! It's not a 1HKO! Proof!

03-22-2008, 05:35 PM	#2580
korny It's Saint Pepsi bitch Join Date: May 2004 Location: Dallas, tx Age: 34 Posts: 4,385	Re: Super Smash Brothers Brawl Well i'm sure nothing is a one hit kill when that aspect comes into play.

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