Square Bear's support line.

**squarebear** · 12-5-2003, 02:42 AM

If any of you use software packages and are having trouble with them or are not sure how to do something, post your problems here and I will do my best to solve them.
I'm expert in ejay and fruityloops but I have a little knowledge of other sequencers.

**SpookG** · 12-5-2003, 02:59 AM

If you use buzz i can help you with that, too

**SuperGreenX** · 12-5-2003, 01:58 PM

I know Reason quite well.

Though, if you have FruityLoops and or Reason questions, a good place to go with a bunch of people who mostly know what they are talking about is the Remixing 101 forum at www.ocremix.org. (better than here for now since the community is already there)

jewpinthethird · 12-5-2003, 11:32 PM

I can help out anyone with Buzz too.

eyespewgreekfire · 12-5-2003, 11:44 PM

ya, i got a buzz question (yess i know im the n00b in music)
what do you guys use for non-melody sound effects in buzz? (example: jewps transition towards the beginning of club, that kind of thing)
Ive been stuck using crappy cymbals for that purpose

jewpinthethird · 12-6-2003, 04:11 PM

Club was dont in Fruity Loops actually.

SimSynth->Effects->ENGAGED

I havent used any non-melodic effects in Buzz...weird.

**djaero** · 12-12-2003, 06:25 PM

What's a good synth to use as a modulator for the FL Vocoder?

I need one that'll make my vocals sound crisp and clean, but still have that "vocoded" sound.

**squarebear** · 12-13-2003, 02:59 PM

For best results, you should use a synth that is capable of producing a string sound or pad. The 3xOsc or SimSynth that comes with FLstudio is probably the best. For more clarity on the vocal try experimenting with the volume level of the modulator. You may find you need to increase it so your vocals will stand out. Sometimes, it may even need raising enough so that your vocal can be heard with the vocoder effect in the background.

If we're being picky, your question should have read "What's a good synth to use as a carrier for the FL Vocoder?" as the vocal sample is the modulator and the carrier is the synth.

Probably the best tip with the FL vocoder is to increase the number of bands it uses to the maximum your PC can handle. The bands are located at the bottom of the vocoder and defaults to 16. Try increasing them to 64 or even 128 if your PC will cope. This will make a huuuuuge difference. In any case, it should be set to 128 before you export your song.

If however, you still want to clearly hear your vocals and just have a touch of vocoder as made popular by Cher's "Do You Believe". The FL vocoder is unsuitable as indeed is any vocoder as this effect is made using a device called autotune. For an example of the effect click here. You will be able to tell the places where the autotune has kicked in as it makes the voice sound a little unnatural.
A vocoder will always make your vocals sound robotic. Here is the same sample vocoded and not autouned. If you need any help or assistance with autotune let me know.

Hope that helps.

MannequinDepressive · 12-18-2003, 02:05 PM

Sigh..I really want to use FrutiyLoopz, but I have no idea where to begin..there's too much...is there a giant FAQ somewhere? Do you have any tips on where to begin? I have no experience with any music making program at all, but I hear what I want to make in my head, heh.

**SuperGreenX** · 12-18-2003, 05:03 PM

Best places to start are manuals. Seriously.

Also, its real freakin annoying when people ask questions that are easily found in the manual. (Just a word of warning

)

**squarebear** · 12-19-2003, 02:11 AM

True. I found fruityloops very tricky at first to get even a basic tune out of. But I downloaded the manual and worked through it page by page following the exercises and examples until I had grasped the basics. It's then just a case of sitting down and experimenting to learn the extra parts. I'm still finding things out now about it and I've been using it over 2 years!

Just don't be expecting to knock out a great tune after 2 weeks though. It took me nearly 2 months to get a track I was reasonably happy with.

jewpinthethird · 12-19-2003, 02:33 AM

I can relate with you SquareBear. About a month ago I discovered a whole bunch of really awesome synths on Buzz that had been there the whole time.

eyespewgreekfire · 12-19-2003, 11:46 PM

what synths are you talking about? (i wanna use them too...)

eyespewgreekfire · 12-21-2003, 12:50 PM

sorry about the double post, but i got another question
how do you get the amen to play anything other than its standard thing (boom boom cha boom-cha-boom-cham-boom cha)
is there another way to put effects on another drum to make it sound like an amen?

fleenx · 12-24-2003, 08:41 AM

I just can't figure out how to use Buzz at all, does anyone have a link to maybe like a "Complete Newbies Guide to Buzz?" or something along those lines?

eyespewgreekfire · 12-24-2003, 11:43 AM

um, there is a help included in the program, which can be accses by pressing the F1 button. It has a section called "getting started" which will help you alot.

12-5-2003, 02:42 AM	#1
squarebear FFR Music Producers Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 118	Square Bear's support line. If any of you use software packages and are having trouble with them or are not sure how to do something, post your problems here and I will do my best to solve them. I'm expert in ejay and fruityloops but I have a little knowledge of other sequencers. __________________

12-5-2003, 02:59 AM	#2
SpookG (For Great Justice!) Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Los Angeles, California Age: 40 Posts: 829	If you use buzz i can help you with that, too __________________ Royal For Great Justice! Electronic Music est. 1999 . kerBLAM

12-5-2003, 01:58 PM	#3
SuperGreenX Tangy music sauce maker Join Date: Mar 2003 Age: 40 Posts: 354	I know Reason quite well. Though, if you have FruityLoops and or Reason questions, a good place to go with a bunch of people who mostly know what they are talking about is the Remixing 101 forum at www.ocremix.org. (better than here for now since the community is already there) __________________ Wonderful Bite - New SGX Album! You can get it for free, yo!

12-5-2003, 11:44 PM	#5
eyespewgreekfire FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 372	ya, i got a buzz question (yess i know im the n00b in music) what do you guys use for non-melody sound effects in buzz? (example: jewps transition towards the beginning of club, that kind of thing) Ive been stuck using crappy cymbals for that purpose __________________

12-13-2003, 02:59 PM	#8
squarebear FFR Music Producers Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 118	For best results, you should use a synth that is capable of producing a string sound or pad. The 3xOsc or SimSynth that comes with FLstudio is probably the best. For more clarity on the vocal try experimenting with the volume level of the modulator. You may find you need to increase it so your vocals will stand out. Sometimes, it may even need raising enough so that your vocal can be heard with the vocoder effect in the background. If we're being picky, your question should have read "What's a good synth to use as a carrier for the FL Vocoder?" as the vocal sample is the modulator and the carrier is the synth. Probably the best tip with the FL vocoder is to increase the number of bands it uses to the maximum your PC can handle. The bands are located at the bottom of the vocoder and defaults to 16. Try increasing them to 64 or even 128 if your PC will cope. This will make a huuuuuge difference. In any case, it should be set to 128 before you export your song. If however, you still want to clearly hear your vocals and just have a touch of vocoder as made popular by Cher's "Do You Believe". The FL vocoder is unsuitable as indeed is any vocoder as this effect is made using a device called autotune. For an example of the effect click here. You will be able to tell the places where the autotune has kicked in as it makes the voice sound a little unnatural. A vocoder will always make your vocals sound robotic. Here is the same sample vocoded and not autouned. If you need any help or assistance with autotune let me know. Hope that helps. __________________

12-5-2003, 11:32 PM	#4
jewpinthethird (The Fat's Sabobah) Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Palm Springs, California Posts: 11,711	I can help out anyone with Buzz too.

12-6-2003, 04:11 PM	#6
jewpinthethird (The Fat's Sabobah) Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Palm Springs, California Posts: 11,711	Club was dont in Fruity Loops actually. SimSynth->Effects->ENGAGED I havent used any non-melodic effects in Buzz...weird.

12-12-2003, 06:25 PM	#7
djaero FFR Music Producer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Los Angeles Age: 35 Posts: 87	What's a good synth to use as a modulator for the FL Vocoder? I need one that'll make my vocals sound crisp and clean, but still have that "vocoded" sound.

12-18-2003, 02:05 PM	#9
MannequinDepressive FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Alberta, Canada Posts: 31	Sigh..I really want to use FrutiyLoopz, but I have no idea where to begin..there's too much...is there a giant FAQ somewhere? Do you have any tips on where to begin? I have no experience with any music making program at all, but I hear what I want to make in my head, heh. __________________ -_-...-_- ...-_-...

12-18-2003, 05:03 PM	#10
SuperGreenX Tangy music sauce maker Join Date: Mar 2003 Age: 40 Posts: 354	Best places to start are manuals. Seriously. Also, its real freakin annoying when people ask questions that are easily found in the manual. (Just a word of warning ) __________________ Wonderful Bite - New SGX Album! You can get it for free, yo!

12-19-2003, 02:11 AM	#11
squarebear FFR Music Producers Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 118	True. I found fruityloops very tricky at first to get even a basic tune out of. But I downloaded the manual and worked through it page by page following the exercises and examples until I had grasped the basics. It's then just a case of sitting down and experimenting to learn the extra parts. I'm still finding things out now about it and I've been using it over 2 years! Just don't be expecting to knock out a great tune after 2 weeks though. It took me nearly 2 months to get a track I was reasonably happy with. __________________

12-19-2003, 02:33 AM	#12
jewpinthethird (The Fat's Sabobah) Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Palm Springs, California Posts: 11,711	I can relate with you SquareBear. About a month ago I discovered a whole bunch of really awesome synths on Buzz that had been there the whole time.

12-19-2003, 11:46 PM	#13
eyespewgreekfire FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 372	what synths are you talking about? (i wanna use them too...) __________________

12-21-2003, 12:50 PM	#14
eyespewgreekfire FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 372	sorry about the double post, but i got another question how do you get the amen to play anything other than its standard thing (boom boom cha boom-cha-boom-cham-boom cha) is there another way to put effects on another drum to make it sound like an amen? __________________

12-24-2003, 08:41 AM	#15
fleenx FFR Player Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 69	I just can't figure out how to use Buzz at all, does anyone have a link to maybe like a "Complete Newbies Guide to Buzz?" or something along those lines?

12-24-2003, 11:43 AM	#16
eyespewgreekfire FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 372	um, there is a help included in the program, which can be accses by pressing the F1 button. It has a section called "getting started" which will help you alot. __________________

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