Is BlackOps Really That Bad To People? - Page 3

WolfXhunter · 03-25-2011, 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by LJRoX

CS 1.6 is better than every FPS living.

i agree.

Izzy · 03-25-2011, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by virus003

I know man playing a pointless video game for money, that'll get you somewhere in life, that's WAY better than going to college and actually being educated, and getting a somewhat decent job, **** that, I'm just gonna sit on the couch and try and get better at this dumb game when I really can't.

If the money is good enough it isn't any different from playing sports. Should they have gone to college and gotten a formal education? Perhaps... but they didn't.

LJRoX · 03-25-2011, 03:26 AM

virus, you need to do more research. Some people have made enough money in competitive gaming, so much that they can live through their entire life without worrying about finances.
Also, I forgot to mention... bragging rights and titles. Pride of their country too.
When people talk about Starcraft in competitive gaming, which country pops up in mind first? Korea.

My point is... competitive gaming is a successful career for one.. but not for all. Same goes with every other career in life.

So stop thinking competitive gaming is shit, nikkuh, get real!

Although some people wouldn't take it as a career but, some people earn a living out of gaming itself.

**kommisar** · 03-25-2011, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Sweet_Feet

If you look at MLG and all the effort that goes into that corporation .. I strongly disagree.

As for the COD franchise. I prefer MW2 to BlackOps, better maps and more variety.

I'll never agree with this having played counter-strike for 8 years and knowing what a good competitive game is =/

**Superfreak04** · 03-25-2011, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by kommisar

I'll never agree with this having played counter-strike for 8 years and knowing what a good competitive game is =/

This.

CS is probably this biggest competitive FPS ever created. Given that it was made so long ago, yet there are still leagues being played today. The tactics in this game require a shit load of skill, due to crouch hopping, bunny hopping, quick scoping, and especially the recoil of every single gun. The learning curve of this game can take a long time to learn, in which most cases people never master it.

DotKritic · 03-25-2011, 08:40 AM

There were only two things I enjoyed while playing BO for a week or two:

1. The R/C car. Now THAT was freaking awesome!
2. When you're running and you want to lay down, your player would dive and land on his stomach/chest. The was a pretty good feature.

edit: I haven't played CS since my senior year in high school. That was...in...hmm...fall 2005.

ddr_f4n · 03-25-2011, 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by kommisar

I'll never agree with this having played counter-strike for 8 years and knowing what a good competitive game is =/

That and MLG plays indie games after being paid loads of money to have it in there, so doesn't mean it's good.

I remember CS all the way back to even when stick figure flashes were popular and had Counter Stick :V

**Mans0n** · 03-25-2011, 10:36 AM

I hear my friends talk about play Modernwarfare And Black Ops, and i Just Lol and their sad lives and go back to playing FFR.

cixOclock · 03-25-2011, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by akatsaru

I mean, im a big videogame player and i waste my life playing COD on weekends but i mean idk i get so much shizz for playing blackops :/ ppl always say how much better COD 4 is or ModernWarefare 2. Are the olds ones really the best?

Then don't worry about what other people say... If you have fun playing the game, have fun playin it. DOWN WITH PEER PRESSURE! rofl xD

**ninjaKIWI** · 03-25-2011, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by LJRoX

CS 1.6 is better than every FPS living.

It might be more difficult to be skillful at it, but that doesn't make it a good game by today's standards.

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And CS:S isn't old at all, and are better then CoD anyday, CoD is shit easy that's why it's so ****ing fun.

Isn't old at all? It came out in 2004, the mechanics and the engine are COMPLETELY outdated, newer games such as MW2/BC2/BlOps are far superior any day, there's no arguing that. The only thing you can dispute is that you personally enjoy CS more. Find some real players and the CoD games become more difficult. Obviously if you're just playing random pub players it's simple, just like CS.

The physics, lighting, gun mechanics, you name it. It's all horrendous compared to the FPS games of today.

**Brycexx** · 03-25-2011, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ninjaKIWI

It might be more difficult to be skillful at it, but that doesn't make it a good game by today's standards.

that is what the problem is. The standards of today is to make everything look pretty and instead of worrying about the gameplay.

**blindreper1179** · 03-25-2011, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Coolboyrulez0

grab a few friends, get on skype and play any cod. fun times regardless of how broken the games are. [spoiler: very]

PS: Clocked 570 hours on MW2 and 200 on BO so far. ooops.

I've got you tripled on MW2 and double on BO. D:

You play what you like. Some of my friends hate it, some like it. You aren't you without being you. So tell the haters something you hate about something they like and see how they react and feel. Buncha jerks.

**ninjaKIWI** · 03-25-2011, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Brycexx

that is what the problem is. The standards of today is to make everything look pretty and instead of worrying about the gameplay.

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Originally Posted by ninjaKIWI

The physics, lighting, gun mechanics, you name it. It's all horrendous compared to the FPS games of today.

It's just completely outdated, especially the gameplay. The only reason it's difficult to become really 'skillful' at it is because one, the community is so old that the mean skill level has had far longer to develop. Two, the gameplay is very inflexible, it's very limited. That makes it come down to very extreme fine tuning, things like having your reflex be 0.5ms quicker than the other person as opposed to genuine strategy.

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Originally Posted by blindreper1179

You aren't you without being you.

Deep

MrGiggles · 03-25-2011, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ninjaKIWI

It might be more difficult to be skillful at it, but that doesn't make it a good game by today's standards.

The physics, lighting, gun mechanics, you name it. It's all horrendous compared to the FPS games of today.

Well, it's technically inferior, I don't think anyone would even argue against that. I think it definitely beats CoD and Bad Company 2 in several areas though, especially in when it comes to competition.

edit: In fact, the limited gameplay is probably what makes it so popular in that area. There's no bullshit involved, no airstrikes, extremely little elements of chance, etc. It's like the difference between Smash Bros and Street Fighter.

**ninjaKIWI** · 03-25-2011, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MrGiggles

Well, it's technically inferior, I don't think anyone would even argue against that. I think it definitely beats CoD and Bad Company 2 in several areas though, especially in when it comes to competition.

edit: In fact, the limited gameplay is probably what makes it so popular in that area. There's no bullshit involved, no airstrikes, extremely little elements of chance, etc. It's like the difference between Smash Bros and Street Fighter.

I'm referring mostly to the very basics of the gameplay, as perks/killstreaks and the such are removed in competitive play (usually) anyways.

**pmonibuv1** · 03-25-2011, 03:34 PM

LJRoX · 03-25-2011, 03:55 PM

ITT: ppl who haven't invested hours in both cod and cs don't know what they're talking about.

you can't play the game for only 100 hours and tell me CoD is better
rofl.

**HoneyMelonCalibrator** · 03-25-2011, 03:57 PM

cs (1.6) trumps all fps

**Superfreak04** · 03-25-2011, 04:09 PM

True skill: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umJH9_fiRKY

This takes months to learn.

LJRoX · 03-25-2011, 04:14 PM

And I'm not saying it over fanboyism.
I've played other FPS to start with and I can name at least 20 off of my head lol. And the one I enjoyed the most is CS.

In CS, there is no room for bullshit, especially if you play LAN, there is perfect reg, perfect recoil. And this game requires the most strategy which is one of the reasons why I love this game. Compared to every other shooter you can't strat as much as CS.
Who says strategy isn't part of this game? Even for the basics, you need a strategy.
Recoil plays a big part in this game, get good with it.
ADS in Call of Duty makes things way easier, since what you aim at is what you hit 100%.
Also health regen just makes it even more stupid, and seeing a red screen is lame too.
I'd rather focus on my enemy rather having the game tell me I'm almost dead by obnoxiously flash red lights.
Also, there are so many counters in CoD which make it really bad.
Killstreaks get countered by a launcher, campers get countered by grenade launcher (I know they're banned in GB) and the hit detection just makes the game even more lame.
Sprinting and knifing also ruins strategy too. I'd rather play a game where I dominate using the weapons I've practiced with for over 500 hours with than get ruined by someone who simply pulls out their knife and lunges for a OHKO.
Don't even bring up the word graphics in this argument.. Old FPS are great. See UT, Q2, Q3, CS1.6, Doom, Half Life.

03-25-2011, 03:26 AM	#43
LJRoX Banned Join Date: Mar 2005 Age: 31 Posts: 2,762	Re: Is BlackOps Really That Bad To People? virus, you need to do more research. Some people have made enough money in competitive gaming, so much that they can live through their entire life without worrying about finances. Also, I forgot to mention... bragging rights and titles. Pride of their country too. When people talk about Starcraft in competitive gaming, which country pops up in mind first? Korea. My point is... competitive gaming is a successful career for one.. but not for all. Same goes with every other career in life. So stop thinking competitive gaming is shit, nikkuh, get real! Although some people wouldn't take it as a career but, some people earn a living out of gaming itself.

03-25-2011, 08:40 AM	#46
DotKritic Forum User Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Houston Age: 19 Posts: 2,964	Re: Is BlackOps Really That Bad To People? There were only two things I enjoyed while playing BO for a week or two: 1. The R/C car. Now THAT was freaking awesome! 2. When you're running and you want to lay down, your player would dive and land on his stomach/chest. The was a pretty good feature. edit: I haven't played CS since my senior year in high school. That was...in...hmm...fall 2005. __________________ FFR Member Since December 17th, 2004 Last edited by DotKritic; 03-25-2011 at 08:43 AM..

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03-25-2011, 03:55 PM	#57
LJRoX Banned Join Date: Mar 2005 Age: 31 Posts: 2,762	Re: Is BlackOps Really That Bad To People? ITT: ppl who haven't invested hours in both cod and cs don't know what they're talking about. you can't play the game for only 100 hours and tell me CoD is better rofl.

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03-25-2011, 04:14 PM	#60
LJRoX Banned Join Date: Mar 2005 Age: 31 Posts: 2,762	Re: Is BlackOps Really That Bad To People? And I'm not saying it over fanboyism. I've played other FPS to start with and I can name at least 20 off of my head lol. And the one I enjoyed the most is CS. In CS, there is no room for bullshit, especially if you play LAN, there is perfect reg, perfect recoil. And this game requires the most strategy which is one of the reasons why I love this game. Compared to every other shooter you can't strat as much as CS. Who says strategy isn't part of this game? Even for the basics, you need a strategy. Recoil plays a big part in this game, get good with it. ADS in Call of Duty makes things way easier, since what you aim at is what you hit 100%. Also health regen just makes it even more stupid, and seeing a red screen is lame too. I'd rather focus on my enemy rather having the game tell me I'm almost dead by obnoxiously flash red lights. Also, there are so many counters in CoD which make it really bad. Killstreaks get countered by a launcher, campers get countered by grenade launcher (I know they're banned in GB) and the hit detection just makes the game even more lame. Sprinting and knifing also ruins strategy too. I'd rather play a game where I dominate using the weapons I've practiced with for over 500 hours with than get ruined by someone who simply pulls out their knife and lunges for a OHKO. Don't even bring up the word graphics in this argument.. Old FPS are great. See UT, Q2, Q3, CS1.6, Doom, Half Life.

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