Flesvelka: A quick how-to-PA!

**Reshiram** · 08-12-2012, 08:03 PM

So yeah. Not dossar-meets-Rave7 depth, but here are 24 nice, quick tips to improve your Flesvelka.

**DossarLX ODI** · 08-12-2012, 08:05 PM

Goddamn cameljack

Also, you should post this in this thread.

V-Ormix · 08-12-2012, 08:09 PM

I found it helpful to play with pa and combo off and using task manager to cover your score so you had no idea if you hit a good or not... but it helped my focus

**Reshiram** · 08-12-2012, 08:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DossarLX ODI

Goddamn cameljack

Also, you should post this in this thread.

Friggin ALLY told me wrong then. :P

Thanks for the link.

**Patashu** · 08-12-2012, 08:18 PM

hahaha is that what they're called now? cameljacks? I like that word

**Emanresu13** · 08-12-2012, 08:22 PM

this isn't how i play rhythm games

maybe that's why i suck

**alloyus** · 08-12-2012, 08:23 PM

Emphasis!!!

**Patashu** · 08-12-2012, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emanresu13

this isn't how i play rhythm games

maybe that's why i suck

you probably don't take notes at school either

**Emanresu13** · 08-12-2012, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patashu

you probably don't take notes at school either

i never did, you are correct

**qqwref** · 08-12-2012, 09:45 PM

Thanks to a quick look through this tutorial I actually FC'd it for the first time XD

I dunno about PAing this sunovabitch, but your notes were pretty useful.

**Nullifidian** · 08-12-2012, 09:54 PM

I thought ffr agreed on cameljack being a stupid word?

**i love you** · 08-12-2012, 10:10 PM

Regardless if FFR hated the word or not, most people nowadays refer it as "cameljacks" and so it would make sense that the term stays rather then changing to something else.

EDIT: Awesome guide.

**Elite Ninja** · 08-12-2012, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reshiram

You can try hitting this pattern as [34]12[34][12] instead of jumptrilling the entire pattern if you want. It would be safer to do it that way imo.

**Mike Weedmark** · 08-13-2012, 01:06 AM

What? I thought a cameljack was just a jack, not a minitrill. That pattern's not even a little bit annoying. Not compared to minijacks. Why do people have trouble with it? lol

**gnr61** · 08-13-2012, 01:11 AM

i don't get it what's a cameljack? that just looks like a minitrill ?____?;

**yo man im awesome** · 08-13-2012, 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gnr61

i don't get it what's a cameljack? that just looks like a minitrill ?____?;

it is a minitrill, it was titled stupidly.

**TC_Halogen** · 08-13-2012, 01:18 AM

I forget who coined it, but someone was simply mentioning a jack in Camel where the distance between the two notes was a two frames, with a note in between. In reality, a "cameljack" is an extremely fast mini-trill.

See here:

EDIT: Ninja'd by yo man.

stavie33 · 09-13-2012, 12:22 AM

songs ez, read + control. I still have no clue why people find this file so hard, mainly because there's not real way to cheat it, so you don't have to learn any tricks or work on any specific skill. It has some eww parts but I still feel they are pretty straightforward reading wise, it's really about the control and just the skill. I mean this song takes skill, but doesn't require super speed, trilling ability, jacking ability, jumpstream ability, endurance, etc. All it needs are bursts and mini jacks. Mind you some super icky mini jacks and bursts but you can handle them with control. This is just a brutal control file. Well great guide anyways, hope it helps people because the AAA count on this file is far too low. Like I know tons of peeps who should be able to AAA this song who just don't have the AAA's.

Also just my two cents, I don't try and cheat ANY of the patterns or speed in this file. Just don't. I realize you catch way too many goods and boos along the way if you do. If you just try and hit the patterns head on, they tend to work out. For example the 32nd streamy parts towards the beginning (and end), there are some gaps there, but if you try and hit them head on as 32nds they tend to work out even without worrying about the gap. The later patterns as well. Read em' and try and hit them, the file is surprisingly lenient with some of these from my experience. The colored sections though aren't as lenient

**MikeShinoda12345** · 09-13-2012, 02:45 AM

personally by the time you're worried about scoring on this file you should be able to figure these patterns out for yourself lol

especially the opening ss's? I mean really?
if you can't read the bursts for this song, just keep playing and practicing. that's pretty much all there is to it.

**Untimely Friction** · 09-13-2012, 11:45 AM

This thread is now cameljacks

08-12-2012, 08:03 PM	#1
Reshiram The Vast White Note Join Date: May 2011 Age: 35 Posts: 1,224	Flesvelka: A quick how-to-PA! So yeah. Not dossar-meets-Rave7 depth, but here are 24 nice, quick tips to improve your Flesvelka. __________________

08-12-2012, 08:09 PM	#3
V-Ormix Banned Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 4,677	Re: Flesvelka: A quick how-to-PA! I found it helpful to play with pa and combo off and using task manager to cover your score so you had no idea if you hit a good or not... but it helped my focus

08-12-2012, 08:18 PM	#5
Patashu FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: we traced the call...it's coming from inside the house Age: 33 Posts: 8,609	Re: Flesvelka: A quick how-to-PA! hahaha is that what they're called now? cameljacks? I like that word __________________ Patashu makes Chiptunes in Famitracker: http://soundcloud.com/patashu/8bit-progressive-metal-fading-world http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v216/Mechadragon/smallpackbanner.png Best non-AAAs: ERx8 v2 (14-1-0-4), Hajnal (3-0-0-0), RunnyMorning (8-0-0-4), Xeno-Flow (1-0-0-3), Blue Rose (35-2-0-20), Ketsarku (14-0-0-0), Silence (1-0-0-0), Lolo (14-1-0-1) http://i231.photobucket.com/albums/ee301/xiaoven/solorulzsig.png

08-12-2012, 08:22 PM	#6
Emanresu13 FFR Veteran Join Date: Jun 2005 Age: 38 Posts: 642	Re: Flesvelka: A quick how-to-PA! this isn't how i play rhythm games maybe that's why i suck

08-12-2012, 08:23 PM	#7
alloyus ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Massachusetts Age: 31 Posts: 3,268	Re: Flesvelka: A quick how-to-PA! Emphasis!!! __________________ ^FFP_D0pey btw

08-12-2012, 09:45 PM	#10
qqwref stepmania archaeologist Join Date: Aug 2005 Age: 34 Posts: 4,090	Re: Flesvelka: A quick how-to-PA! Thanks to a quick look through this tutorial I actually FC'd it for the first time XD I dunno about PAing this sunovabitch, but your notes were pretty useful. __________________ Best AAA: Policy In The Sky [Oni] (81) Best SDG: PANTS (86) Best FC: Future Invasion (93)

08-12-2012, 09:54 PM	#11
Nullifidian ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Join Date: Sep 2007 Age: 34 Posts: 1,837	Re: Flesvelka: A quick how-to-PA! I thought ffr agreed on cameljack being a stupid word? __________________

08-12-2012, 10:10 PM	#12
i love you Live a wonderful life~ Join Date: Oct 2006 Posts: 7,313	Re: Flesvelka: A quick how-to-PA! Regardless if FFR hated the word or not, most people nowadays refer it as "cameljacks" and so it would make sense that the term stays rather then changing to something else. EDIT: Awesome guide. __________________ =============================== The idea that RDCP 3 may come out in the future is a fun thought to have~ ===============================

08-13-2012, 01:06 AM	#14
Mike Weedmark FFR Veteran Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: London, Ontario Age: 37 Posts: 1,196	Re: Flesvelka: A quick how-to-PA! What? I thought a cameljack was just a jack, not a minitrill. That pattern's not even a little bit annoying. Not compared to minijacks. Why do people have trouble with it? lol __________________

08-13-2012, 01:11 AM	#15
gnr61 FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: TOKYO STYLE SPEEDCORE, ohio Age: 33 Posts: 7,251	Re: Flesvelka: A quick how-to-PA! i don't get it what's a cameljack? that just looks like a minitrill ?____?; __________________ squirrel--it's whats for dinner.

08-13-2012, 01:18 AM	#17
TC_Halogen Rhythm game specialist. Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Bel Air, Maryland Age: 32 Posts: 19,376	Re: Flesvelka: A quick how-to-PA! I forget who coined it, but someone was simply mentioning a jack in Camel where the distance between the two notes was a two frames, with a note in between. In reality, a "cameljack" is an extremely fast mini-trill. See here: EDIT: Ninja'd by yo man.

09-13-2012, 12:22 AM	#18
stavie33 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,925	Re: Flesvelka: A quick how-to-PA! songs ez, read + control. I still have no clue why people find this file so hard, mainly because there's not real way to cheat it, so you don't have to learn any tricks or work on any specific skill. It has some eww parts but I still feel they are pretty straightforward reading wise, it's really about the control and just the skill. I mean this song takes skill, but doesn't require super speed, trilling ability, jacking ability, jumpstream ability, endurance, etc. All it needs are bursts and mini jacks. Mind you some super icky mini jacks and bursts but you can handle them with control. This is just a brutal control file. Well great guide anyways, hope it helps people because the AAA count on this file is far too low. Like I know tons of peeps who should be able to AAA this song who just don't have the AAA's. Also just my two cents, I don't try and cheat ANY of the patterns or speed in this file. Just don't. I realize you catch way too many goods and boos along the way if you do. If you just try and hit the patterns head on, they tend to work out. For example the 32nd streamy parts towards the beginning (and end), there are some gaps there, but if you try and hit them head on as 32nds they tend to work out even without worrying about the gap. The later patterns as well. Read em' and try and hit them, the file is surprisingly lenient with some of these from my experience. The colored sections though aren't as lenient __________________ It's getting better all the time I used to get mad at my school (No, I can't complain) The teachers who taught me weren't cool (No, I can't complain) You're holding me down (Oh Oh) Turning me round (Oh Oh) Filling me up with your rules (Oooh) Last edited by stavie33; 09-13-2012 at 12:31 AM..

09-13-2012, 02:45 AM	#19
MikeShinoda12345 \(^o^)/ Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Taipei, Taiwan Age: 27 Posts: 1,889	Re: Flesvelka: A quick how-to-PA! personally by the time you're worried about scoring on this file you should be able to figure these patterns out for yourself lol especially the opening ss's? I mean really? if you can't read the bursts for this song, just keep playing and practicing. that's pretty much all there is to it.

09-13-2012, 11:45 AM	#20
Untimely Friction D6 Challeneged Join Date: Aug 2012 Age: 31 Posts: 1,267	Re: Flesvelka: A quick how-to-PA! This thread is now cameljacks

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