How do I pinpoint the correct offset?

**rushyrulz** · 11-25-2013, 05:57 PM

I just recently started playing on the R^3 engine and I quickly noticed that screwing with offset has become a huge part of my song-to-song routine (idk what causes song offsets to fluctuate so much on the engine, but that's a different topic...). My question to you knowledgable people of FFR is, "What types of strategies can I implement to best pinpoint the correct offset for any given file?" I often find myself close but I feel like I could be closer. On some files I have ridiculous MA like 80%+ amazing and on others near the same difficulty it's around 55-70% amazing. Since almost all other variables are constant between file A and file B, I've narrowed it down to either a global offset or judge offset issue.

Also I'm 5 and what is this judge offset shit?

justin_ator · 11-25-2013, 06:00 PM

So global offset of course is file timing. Adjust that for song timing. You knew that. I don't know that there is a best way to easily determine the offset for a given file. I know I don't usually mess with it because the difference is negligible past the offset of like 1.3 or whatever I typically use.

the judge offset can be adjusted to shift the hit boxes for accuracy of course, and you can get an idea of how to set that based on how you typically play.

Think about your style. Do you usually hit a tad early to the receptors? Try to hit it dead on? do a mid-range song and play it trying to hit as accurately as possible on the point you usually aim for, and then right click your speed mod on the results screen. Set your judge offset to that first number and see if that makes a difference.

edit: Side comment, since Judge offset is where your timing window is located that isn't going to vary by song either really. The only thing that really varies from song to song is the global offset, and the way the arrows sync to the song itself. That's where global comes in of course.

**rushyrulz** · 11-25-2013, 06:05 PM

So do you think judge offset can be used to kinda help lower the margin of error of the global offset margin?

justin_ator · 11-25-2013, 06:09 PM

I think it can help lower the margin of error because you can pinpoint where you need the offset to be to accurately hit that timing window. But in terms of by song, that's going to be a global issue still I think.

edit: or maybe I have no idea what I'm talking about, and somebody will come in and correct me

**rushyrulz** · 11-25-2013, 06:11 PM

idk it kinda seems to be working. I raised my judge offset about .5 from where it was previously and my MA is better already (in general)

justin_ator · 11-25-2013, 06:12 PM

Like I said, try to play a song as accurately to the receptors (or where you're comfortable hitting) and then right click your speed mod on the results screen. That number can help find a good spot as well for setting your judge offset

11-25-2013, 05:57 PM	#1
rushyrulz Digital Dancing! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 80 billion club, NE Age: 31 Posts: 12,980	How do I pinpoint the correct offset? I just recently started playing on the R^3 engine and I quickly noticed that screwing with offset has become a huge part of my song-to-song routine (idk what causes song offsets to fluctuate so much on the engine, but that's a different topic...). My question to you knowledgable people of FFR is, "What types of strategies can I implement to best pinpoint the correct offset for any given file?" I often find myself close but I feel like I could be closer. On some files I have ridiculous MA like 80%+ amazing and on others near the same difficulty it's around 55-70% amazing. Since almost all other variables are constant between file A and file B, I've narrowed it down to either a global offset or judge offset issue. Also I'm 5 and what is this judge offset shit? __________________ Last edited by rushyrulz; 11-25-2013 at 06:00 PM..

11-25-2013, 06:00 PM	#2
justin_ator 🥓<strong><span style="col Resident Overseer Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Kingsport, TN Posts: 7,648	Re: How do I pinpoint the correct offset? So global offset of course is file timing. Adjust that for song timing. You knew that. I don't know that there is a best way to easily determine the offset for a given file. I know I don't usually mess with it because the difference is negligible past the offset of like 1.3 or whatever I typically use. the judge offset can be adjusted to shift the hit boxes for accuracy of course, and you can get an idea of how to set that based on how you typically play. Think about your style. Do you usually hit a tad early to the receptors? Try to hit it dead on? do a mid-range song and play it trying to hit as accurately as possible on the point you usually aim for, and then right click your speed mod on the results screen. Set your judge offset to that first number and see if that makes a difference. edit: Side comment, since Judge offset is where your timing window is located that isn't going to vary by song either really. The only thing that really varies from song to song is the global offset, and the way the arrows sync to the song itself. That's where global comes in of course. __________________ Last edited by justin_ator; 11-25-2013 at 06:07 PM..

11-25-2013, 06:05 PM	#3
rushyrulz Digital Dancing! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 80 billion club, NE Age: 31 Posts: 12,980	Re: How do I pinpoint the correct offset? So do you think judge offset can be used to kinda help lower the margin of error of the global offset margin? __________________

11-25-2013, 06:09 PM	#4
justin_ator 🥓<strong><span style="col Resident Overseer Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Kingsport, TN Posts: 7,648	Re: How do I pinpoint the correct offset? I think it can help lower the margin of error because you can pinpoint where you need the offset to be to accurately hit that timing window. But in terms of by song, that's going to be a global issue still I think. edit: or maybe I have no idea what I'm talking about, and somebody will come in and correct me __________________

11-25-2013, 06:11 PM	#5
rushyrulz Digital Dancing! Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: 80 billion club, NE Age: 31 Posts: 12,980	Re: How do I pinpoint the correct offset? idk it kinda seems to be working. I raised my judge offset about .5 from where it was previously and my MA is better already (in general) __________________

11-25-2013, 06:12 PM	#6
justin_ator 🥓<strong><span style="col Resident Overseer Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Kingsport, TN Posts: 7,648	Re: How do I pinpoint the correct offset? Like I said, try to play a song as accurately to the receptors (or where you're comfortable hitting) and then right click your speed mod on the results screen. That number can help find a good spot as well for setting your judge offset __________________

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