TWG CLXI - Egregious Miscalculations GAME THREAD

[choof]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

1. Hakulyte
It's Haku, now with longer shitposts and a little more culture.

-extreme fedora tippage-

and I'm willing to give him a pass for the day baring that he still stays active and scumhunts. Null.

willing to give him a pass if he continues to talk to you about vidya, waifu novels, and generally has the same reads as you?

2. AragakiAyase
AA hasn't done anything out of the ordinary yet. Probably because it's still the first half of d0.Normally he pressures people a little harder as town then he's been doing but I think it's a little early to tell right now---we'll see how he continues tomorrow. Null

decent read but he also does the slank thing hard when he's a wolf

3. R.E. Aryxi
Aryxi hasn't posted enough for me to pin him down. Null.

ye

4. Charu
If the host decides Charu has fufilled his post requiment I might sub out and eat the ban. Null/slight asshole lean.

lmfao
his green posts imply that what he quoted gave him a town lean
his red posts imply that what he quoted gave him a scum lean
I can't believe I have to spell this out for you, it's been mentioned by not just myself.
I want to phone a friend and ask yoshl is mml is red blaster tier density

5. dAnceguy117
dAnce made me feel alot better about him when he called AA out about the policy lynch for inactives, pointing out that if AA was a wolf that such a tatic would be very beneficial to him. I personally learn more on AA's side of that issue, but I don't see a wolf dAnce wanting to stir that pot in any case. That said, he hasn't done alot yet. Slight Town

it irks me that you capitalize the A but this read is okay

6. danceflashrevo
DFR went from unmarkable to trying to sheep Choof's read on me for no reason. From experience people who don't say something about a player until someone scumreads them just so they can weakly scumread themtend to be wolf. I'll give him a chance to respond to me, but I have a feeling that he'll try to ignore it or say that he's changed his mind when I pressure. Slight Scum

my "read" on you was saying that a small portion of a single post you made was garbage and DFR ran with it. he was putting more work into it than I was. he's also prodded a few other people, and as I said, [url=http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/vbz/showpost.php?p=4498304&postcount=293]this was a good post[/twgv].

8. choof
Choof seems to like declaring when something is good or bad but doesn't really give me a sense of where he's coming from. Like ok here:

well that's generally because I rapid fire post and I have not had the chance to rapid fire post until this evening/morning when I got a random second wind outta nowhere. it's a lot easier to post short little interactions whilst at work/on the shitter.

A]Why does the slank policy bother you? Why do you think it's related to him being scum when he's had this opinion well before this game wa rolled? Would you call him scum if it was brought to light he said that pre-game but didn't act on it?

iirc, AA was a pretty fearful wolf when I played with him and his default reaction to rolling wolf was slank. I'm not deadset on killing AA because I haven't played with him for a while so I don't remember the ins and outs of his meta, but I do think the slank cover was scummy.
if he had said before the game started that he was in a second game, and then came into this new game and made the same post, I would still think it was scummy.

B]What other posts? What struck you as odd?

this might be a little bit too "meta" for you but if you read my reads post where I slowly gained some semblance of lucidity around the storn read, I mention that I didn't read AA's iso when I was making his read on him. this ties into

c] You put him at null pretty much right after this. um why?

this thing. I put him at null because when I iso'd storn, I realized that I didn't read AA iso and was basing it more off of gut feeling and just the slank cover

You're

FUCK

most informed read in that post was Storn, which was pretty much ripped wholecloth from my pressure and comments about him so yeah, do you need someone else to form reads before you can have a really good one to share?

woah hey, I didn't even notice that you made a single post towards storn that had no conviction in it aside from "hey buddy ur post is bad post some reads!" and then you fuckin dropped it.
are you seriously going to sit there and say that this

storn42 his iso is probably the worst right now it goes from shitposting meta to straight charu rip off back to shitposting meta i don't think he's posted anything of content. i'm using a period here because it's warranted. the hypocrisy of making posts that emulate charu, doing this, saying i'm trying to make an effort to content create, but then lurking for an hour only to post this shit???? i just posted reads on aa that weren't accompanied by a quick iso but now that i'm in the zone or whatever i'm putting aa back into null territory and voting storn

is less substantiated than this

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

It's like he's paying so little attention right now.

Also Choof thinks we need to have a serious discussion on who should die like right fucking now and frankly I think that reeks more of scum then not. Hell, he even was the first to jump on Charu and now has a vote on Storn (which is easy tier in votes at this stage).

point me to posts where I state even implicitly that we should discuss who "should die like right fucking now" because I'm pretty sure I've only been stating my strongest scum reads and the one instance of lynching that happens in this entire game is a hypothetical between myself and haku about lynching danceguy, someone who both you and I have a town read on

Calling him my strongest Scum right now.

I don't mean to toot my own horn here but there are at least 4 people in this game that know how much of a dichotomy there is between my wolf game and my town game and they can tell you that you're dead fucking wrong

9. storn42
Probably my second strongest scum right now. I already addressed him but to recap: Low postcount, tried jumping on the Charu wagon, didn't post, voted Charu again but much more seriously, I called him out, he got butthurt and left. Not a good look on him

stop sheeping my read

10. dadcop2
D-Cop v2 needs to post more. Already said he couldn't get to this until tomorrow and while that sucks for town I'm ok with seeing if he pulls through before I lean him either way. Null

hey I'm okay with this read but I was looking through his posts just a minute ago and I thought this was cute

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Explain in better detail please

Originally Posted by dadcop2

choof's strat seems a bit like mine tbh. shitposts and §microaggressions§

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

dadcop:
Fair enough on Choof

11. T-Force
He doesn't like cupcakes because his girl keeps feeding him cupcakes. Also null because he hasn't really done shit except get dunked on hard by Haku.

okay read

12. Pazzaz
Paz was lurking when I started writing this and frankly if there isn't a Paz post above me that looks bad for him. Still, he's been inactive as town before so I guess I'll put him as null

okay read

13. FreezinIce
Freeze knows better then to pull this shit out. I've never seen wolf Freezin before, but I also have never seen Freezin be this absent before either. It sticks out because he was all about lynching inactives with AA pre-game. Lean Scum.

okay read but I don't trust your reasoning

Oh would you look at that so many nulls and so much dependent on if people keep their course until EoD it's almost like it's too fucking early for this shit huh

yeah you have 7 null reads big whoop but 3 of them are on players who have large post counts and have large amounts of content so maybe you should take some time to read the thread instead of trying to push a wagon on me



IN CONCLUSION: yeah you might think you're a good player but you're pretty solidly mediocre

[MixMasterLar]

Oh and for the record:

Originally Posted by choof

I would argue that the other 8 players who have more than 20 posts have posted enough content to start thinking seriously about lynches

This in addition to the easy Charu vote that gets turned into the easier Storn vote and your interactions with Haku a page back really are good examples of my accusation so yeah.

[MixMasterLar]

Oh good a Choof post lemme read that

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Rushing a kill and rushing the thread are two separate things. If you where rushing a kill I'd have voted you already.

Less bullshit threats more content please

How about you explain what rushing the thread means?

[choof]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

You basically shut off open, freeform discussion when you want to focus on the kills this early.

but this is wholly contradictory to what is happening right now

A] has already changed his vote from Charu to Storn and b] it's d0 I'm going to conclude that he probably doesn't have as good of a handle on this as he thinks he does.

this is idiotic. using my vote as a means to pressure people and generate discussion means that I don't have a good handle?

[choof]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Oh and for the record:


This in addition to the easy Charu vote that gets turned into the easier Storn vote and your interactions with Haku a page back really are good examples of my accusation so yeah.

i have no idea what in the hell you're talking about here

[choof]

i promise you mml that i'll stay up as long as needed until you either back down and look at someone else or until someone pops into the thread and says "this is town choof fucking stop it you DERP" so I can go to bed

[choof]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Well, I do want to urge players to read other players asap even if their reads are wrong.

The point is that the faster we can regroup information and compare it, the more likely we are to have enough information to get a hit.

Like right now I'm trying to pressure danceguy and I can only do so by throwing content. Most of what I'm saying against him is based on what I've seeing from my point of view only. My view of him is unlikely to completely represent reality.

I cannot create content without having a good sense of what's going on.

I can't create a sense of what's going on if I can't associate how I view the game with how others view the game.

this post came from a villager

[choof]

well actually you can't back down and look at anyone else because haku, you, and myself are the only ones posting right now and imo we're all town

backing down is inherently scummy

and no one's gonna pop in any time soon to take over the guard so to speak

there's not really much we can gain from this conversation aside from how each other work and the payoff'll only be maximized once we both flip or the game ends

[choof]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Hastiness does not do any favors for town. The more information town has the better.

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

I don't know how you can not think he's just trying to rush us right now.

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Rushing a kill and rushing the thread are two separate things. If you where rushing a kill I'd have voted you already.

Less bullshit threats more content please

how rash

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by choof

willing to give him a pass if he continues to talk to you about vidya, waifu novels, and generally has the same reads as you?

When did me and AA get sidetracked with that?

Originally Posted by choof

decent read but he also does the slank thing hard when he's a wolf

When did he?

Originally Posted by choof

lmfao
his green posts imply that what he quoted gave him a town lean
his red posts imply that what he quoted gave him a scum lean
I can't believe I have to spell this out for you, it's been mentioned by not just myself.

Everyone knows that stop jerking yourself off because you figured it out all on your own. I was in Boats, I know what he's doing it's the same shit Xiz was trying to pull with Oglaf.

It still is a fucking shit strat that doesn't tell us nearly what we need to know.

Originally Posted by choof

my "read" on you was saying that a small portion of a single post you made was garbage and DFR ran with it. he was putting more work into it than I was. he's also prodded a few other people, and as I said, [url=http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/vbz/showpost.php?p=4498304&postcount=293]this was a good post[/twgv].

Running with things like this is wolfy yo
You never did explain why you didn't like it btw.

Originally Posted by choof

well that's generally because I rapid fire post and I have not had the chance to rapid fire post until this evening/morning when I got a random second wind outta nowhere. it's a lot easier to post short little interactions whilst at work/on the shitter.

Fair enough

Originally Posted by choof

iirc, AA was a pretty fearful wolf when I played with him and his default reaction to rolling wolf was slank. I'm not deadset on killing AA because I haven't played with him for a while so I don't remember the ins and outs of his meta, but I do think the slank cover was scummy.
if he had said before the game started that he was in a second game, and then came into this new game and made the same post, I would still think it was scummy.

What the hell does the second game have to do with it? All his post where he said that was posted outside of games.

I'll ask again: Had he said all that outside of TWG but then did not act on it, would you consider him scum for backing on his word?

Originally Posted by choof

this might be a little bit too "meta" for you but if you read my reads post where I slowly gained some semblance of lucidity around the storn read, I mention that I didn't read AA's iso when I was making his read on him. this ties into ---- this thing. I put him at null because when I iso'd storn, I realized that I didn't read AA iso and was basing it more off of gut feeling and just the slank cover

Which is a sign you are rushing btw.

Originally Posted by choof

FUCK

You

Originally Posted by choof

woah hey, I didn't even notice that you made a single post towards storn that had no conviction in it aside from "hey buddy ur post is bad post some reads!" and then you fuckin dropped it.
are you seriously going to sit there and say that this

------

is less substantiated than this

--------

So you're full of shit or thing that all of these:

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

I'm sorry how many post do you have right now?

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Nope drop it back down to 12 you double posting mofo

Anyone under 20 post after 24 hours needs to provide content and not try to jump on easy wagons.

Give me some hotreads on AA, DFR, and Haku please

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

What content? You mean this:



?????


No bro. No way I'm letting you off the hook that damn easy. Don't try to play the victim when your "content" is the world's easiest vote. You gonna post some reads or what?

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

It's like he's paying so little attention right now.

Are one post. Either way you're wrong.

Originally Posted by choof

point me to posts where I state even implicitly that we should discuss who "should die like right fucking now" because I'm pretty sure I've only been stating my strongest scum reads and the one instance of lynching that happens in this entire game is a hypothetical between myself and haku about lynching danceguy, someone who both you and I have a town read on

Posted examples of what I am talking about, also pointed out a few things in this post.

Originally Posted by choof

I don't mean to toot my own horn here but there are at least 4 people in this game that know how much of a dichotomy there is between my wolf game and my town game and they can tell you that you're dead fucking wrong

Until they do this means jack all

Originally Posted by choof

stop sheeping my read

You need to learn to read before you post you dumbshit.

Originally Posted by choof

okay read

Thanks

Originally Posted by choof

okay read

Thanks

Originally Posted by choof

okay read but I don't trust your reasoning

Don't care if you do it's solid reasoning and I'm sticking by it until Freezin proves to me it's wrong.

Originally Posted by choof

yeah you have 7 null reads big whoop but 3 of them are on players who have large post counts and have large amounts of content so maybe you should take some time to read the thread instead of trying to push a wagon on me

Says the man who somehow thing I'm scrubbing off his Storn read rofl

Originally Posted by choof

IN CONCLUSION: yeah you might think you're a good player but you're pretty solidly mediocre

You'll have a better idea of what's what if you take that mirror down from between us.

[choof]

okay I'm cold and tired and going to bed
I'll probably be up in a bit though because I got some cleaning to do this weekend

[choof]

that's actually a really bad post and I'll respond to it when I wake up unless someone else wants to

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by choof

i promise you mml that i'll stay up as long as needed until you either back down and look at someone else or until someone pops into the thread and says "this is town choof fucking stop it you DERP" so I can go to bed

So basically this goes your way or you act like Donald Trump?

Choof
If this is town Choof then damn you're way too fucking rusty in this game rofl


BRB going to bed while you spin around and try to bully specific reads from me. Have a good night and do answer my other posts

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by choof

okay I'm cold and tired and going to bed
I'll probably be up in a bit though because I got some cleaning to do this weekend

Wait rofl you already backed down?

My vote was well deserved

[choof]

rather
I'll respond to it in the morning but I hope someone else responds to it so I don't have to because that post is really bitter, emotional, minimal, and doesn't serve any purpose other than senseless self-masturbatory soapboxing

[choof]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

So basically this goes your way or you act like Donald Trump?

Choof
If this is town Choof then damn you're way too fucking rusty in this game rofl


BRB going to bed while you spin around and try to bully specific reads from me. Have a good night and do answer my other posts

choof

[choof]

I'm pretty sure we've never played a game together

[choof]

maybe I am doing badly lol
ah well

[Hakulyte]

Choof is town lean here for me. I'm mindmelding with his game.

From what I remember, MML/Choof is going to be a terrible dynamic so I can understand the clash, but if there's a wolf here, it's more likely to be MML than Choof fmpov.

TvT is possible as well, but I'm having trouble processing MML's posts. I'm kind of curious about if there's a deeper meaning behind that logic.