TWG CLXVII Game Thread How Was Awakening Reviewed

[MixMasterLar]

Tiloco wagon feels like if I voted for him it's solely off of wagons and not anything he's done. The again, I can't really give you a reason not to lynch him.

IDK Mechanic votes that are not 100% always make me feel uneasy

[MixMasterLar]

I guess I'm saying from my point of view Tokzic is more deserving of the lynch

[Soundwave-]

Yuck I fell asleep because ayylmao 36 hours or something. Also maybe because reading this game is so boring.

[Xiz]

Tokzic if you have anything to say say it now, from your random bursts in the thread I feel like you are lurking

[Xiz]

Hey freez who are your top 2?lynch candidates for today

[tiloco217]

Originally Posted by tiloco217

To clarify I actually have you leaning town freezin. What I'm saying is there is no reason for mafia to have voted on me regardless of my alignment.

Take a minute to enter the world where I am town.

From your perspective no mafia voted for me but if I'm town why wouldn't they?

The reason is because nobody else could change their vote to me with <10 minutes in the day and not come out with a lot of scum when I flipped town.

Some mafia could have been ok with this if they were going to save a mafia from being lynched by killing me but that's not the case. Assuming I'm town then a town was going to die either way on that day.

So if I'm town mafia have no reason to vote on me. It's still true that if I'm mafia then mafia have no reason to vote on me but the votes really can't tell you my alignment. You need to be reading me based on my play

Originally Posted by tiloco217

First off mafia definitely could have sat in the sidelines in that vote. The two main wagons were both town (from my perspective) so they have no reason to care which of them dies.

This is especially true for the people that I'm most suspicious of. Xiz wasn't around, Xel was lurking and had some heat so whoever he puts his vote on actually looks more town, Soundwave was lurking and I really doubt he would push a wagon. Tokzic was the only one that I think could have possibly lead a wagon (outside of Cel who helped the light wagon) and he didn't need to if town were already jumping on what Light had said.

Since towns were trying to lynch towns there really isn't a reason for mafia to get their hands dirty.

Manti going onto light instead of me makes sense too because he already expressed his dislike for light. If he doesn't have a strong opinion on me he has no reason to vote me there (the only other wagon) and it's not like he had time to form an opinion during that eod. Him voting on either wagon at the end makes him more likely to be town for the reasons I keep saying.

For why you shouldn't vote me on mechanics alone

[DarkManticoreX2]

cel, can you reiterate your reasoning for wanting to off Tiloco? There's like one particular answer i totally get and it would make stop thinking you're tunneling for a lynch.

[Xiz]

Originally Posted by tiloco217

I'm still very confident in Xiz and am going to keep my vote there atm but I will move to Tokzic if it matters

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_Tunnel

[Xiz]

Wait this one is better

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gotthard_Base_Tunnel

[MixMasterLar]

Originally Posted by Xiz

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Channel_Tunnel

Am I supposed to laugh at this?

[Xiz]

I thought it was funny

[DarkManticoreX2]

Originally Posted by Xiz

Wait this one is better

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gotthard_Base_Tunnel

How about you develop some game insight before I start a wagon on you. Kinda getting sick of your quips. I know you got a D1 pass for traveling or moving or something, but giving you a D2 pass as well might be more then I wanna do.

[tiloco217]

I giggled

[Xiz]

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

How about you develop some game insight before I start a wagon on you. Kinda getting sick of your quips. I know you got a D1 pass for traveling or moving or something, but giving you a D2 pass as well might be more then I wanna do.

do you believe my jokes are alignment indicative

[Celirra]

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

cel, can you reiterate your reasoning for wanting to off Tiloco? There's like one particular answer i totally get and it would make stop thinking you're tunneling for a lynch.

Admittedly, it's two reasons;

1) As I've mentioned before, he did feel very lazy with his analysis on various occasions, which does somewhat rub me the wrong way. He did clear up some of it, but unless I missed something by accident which I'm prone to do it turns out, there were occasions where what I called him out on were... well, not answered very well if at all.

2) Not a reason more a self-analysis, but I might be so focused due to a bit of guilt over saving him by keeping my d0 on Light, causing the mislynch. Oops.


And then, part of it as well is that although I'm not the most... adept with mechanics, it seems that someone (I wanna say freezin) worked it out to be mechanically correct to go for Tiloco, which somewhat fortified my stance. Though I don't care for mechanics too much, I recall Tiloco's response as a "imagine my world" kind of argument, which is always a bit of a silly one to me, and ultimately didn't even do a great job of fending off the points made and felt more like a dissuasion.

also for what it's worth, it feels a bit weird how he's semi-aggressively insistent I'm scummy, ever since I started reading him as such, almost like a "no, you!" style of pushing focus.



mostly #1 though, the rest are more explanations for gut feelings probably.

[inDheart]

@mml @manti

if you vote on xel it can be more than a 1 vote wagon

i think he's a viable lynch based on his contributions

@cel i take it you disagree since you'd have to be convinced, why so?

[Celirra]

also find the full retreat by freezin off of tiloco a bit of a !, but that's more of a disappointed ! in the direction of freezin and not a point of wolfiness.

[Soundwave-]

Tiloco initially votes Xiz on a really shitty (imo) tone read. Miraculously this read develops into a better supported one (although if it's really well supported tbd) fast-forward and tiloco is very confident on Xiz. Because reasons. I guess.

[Soundwave-]

meta* not tone. even worse

[tiloco217]

My read and progression on Xiz is very well documented. Probably the read I've talked about the most. Don't really feel like explaining again for you tbh