Red Blaster wants to be unbanned

[choof]

Originally Posted by Cold Kitten

he seemed to just want to make the game less fun for everyone from what i gathered. i feel very strongly he should stay banned.

I respectly disagree with this statement, his pre and post awards meta was VASTLY different, which to me honestly showed the opposite.

I, oddly, agree with Xelnya. but 10 games seems like too much. 5 games would be good. I doubt he'll sign up for 5 consecutive games, and even if he does, it'd end up being a solid month of probation.

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by choof

I frequently defended him after the polls of the first twg awards, he cleaned up his act and became a pretty strong player, imo. If he does want to be unbanned, I think he'll be checking himself, and if he has the urge to do anything dumb to get himself modkilled, he'll just step away from the game.

I'd be fine with seeing him play again, but imo he only gets one more chance. If he does any modkillable antics, he's done.

iirc he mentioned that he would continuing playing on other sites, and it's been a few months? I'd actually like to see if he did continue playing, and I wonder if he's matured as a player, aside from the modkill bullshit.

aside from a small bit in the last paragraph, I agree with this about 100%.
I am in full support of banning him permanently if he posts his PM again, or threatens to do so.

Honestly in one of them he didn't even mean to post what he did, which I think is sometimes forgotten. His conduct after the modkill (which 100% had to happen) was not ok though.

[Red Blaster]

Not so much wanting to be unbanned for some "I deserve this"mentality, but more so wanting to voice my issues with the Dichotomy ban which resulted in the permanent ban.
I also wanted to raise these issues privately off-forum, but what ever I guess.

[choof]

Originally Posted by Red Blaster

Not so much wanting to be unbanned for some "I deserve this"mentality, but more so wanting to voice my issues with the Dichotomy ban which resulted in the permanent ban.
I also wanted to raise these issues privately off-forum, but what ever I guess.

the ban was public, this subforum is public. this thread was bound to happen at some point.

[Charu]

I would just tell both of them, if I'm somehow playing, that they're baddo and should check themselves out in lane 4 and have the cashier go "Yeah, I'm the master at this button shit, watch as I enter all your items code by code without scanning!"

[Charu]

"What the fuck, I ordered two pairs of boots, where are they!?" Scream Zenith at the postal boy who got the wrong end of the stick.

"Oh, I'm sorry, must've been a mispackage."

"I tell you what, mate, I outa sock you one so fucking hard that I'm going to literally kill you hard."

Then Redblaster comes.

"Whatcha say ya little shit? How 'bout you say that to someone your own size!"

"Ya dickwad, everyone knows my penis is bigger than yours, fuck off mate."

[roundbox]

vote cast, I agree with choof

keep this in mind folks: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-fulfilling_prophecy

[Charu]

And then literally Hitler with epic le memes from over 9000 lands.

All your base are definitely belong to me, assholes.

[Charu]

Holy shit banana's, why is this site so slow? God damn it, all I wanna is post some god damn bad posts that make people cringe.

Is that so much to ask?

[Charu]

Holy shit banana's, why is this site so slow? God damn it, all I wanna is post some god damn bad posts that make people cringe.

Is that so much to ask?

[roundbox]

Originally Posted by Charu

Then Redblaster comes.

wowee

[_Zenith_]

Lmao thank you, charu

[storn42]

this might sounds like throwing our shit on someone elses plate, but we can always have him play an some other site(s) for 2 or 3 games then come to ours. its a good way to see if it really is worth bringing him back.

as far as the mystery game ban goes, him posting his pm really kind of killed it for everyone, including me, and i was on the woof team! We ended up with the entire game being inactive and we never got to use one of the core features of the game. an entire HALF of the game we didn't get to experience. the question is, do we really want to risk losing the chance to properly experience cool and new games or even just killing the normal games in general.

[blindreper1179]

He's a piece of shit, why are you guys so willing to give him a chance? I read the posts, and you're all naive that he won't do it again. He ruined two of the games I played, and that fucking sucked. He deserves shit from us. Saying we need him for activity is the worst reason because no activity is better than the shit activity he'll give.

[storn42]

Originally Posted by blindreper1179

He's a piece of shit, why are you guys so willing to give him a chance? I read the posts, and you're all naive that he won't do it again. He ruined two of the games I played, and that fucking sucked. He deserves shit from us. Saying we need him for activity is the worst reason because no activity is better than the shit activity he'll give.

blind you voted for unban him. which for the record the poll is really confusing on which way is ban and which is unban. i think the poll should be scrapped for an easier to instantly read and say "yea that totally means dont unban him"

[DarkManticoreX2]

The poll is pretty easy to read.

Should RB stay banned?
Yes,
No

[ShadowDueler97]

I personally don't believe in third chances. I agree with blindreper with activity being an awful reason to bring back someone who is likely to cause so much trouble in the game again. I mean you want to act like that? Fine, get banned and learn your lesson. But to come back and do it again is just unacceptable. Bringing back a trouble maker such as him because of low activity is honestly very stupid.

Also yeah blindreper, you voted to unban him. Too bad we can't change our votes once we make them lol

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by blindreper1179

Saying we need him for activity is the worst reason

I am aware that I cropped out the last part of this sentence but I agree with this part a lot

EDIT: JEEZ, I really hope you guys know what kind of standard you're setting by not letting him play. Honestly, I don't see much harm in giving him a shot. He took some time away, probably played on another site or two (not entirely sure about this one) and wants to come back and show us that he is capable of playing in this environment. I think he can do so without making any waves. But, mostly importantly EVEN IF I AM WRONG AND HE CAN'T, he should still be given that chance.

Over the past 2-3 years, FFRTWG has gotten a lot more elitist, and I hate it. Its a lot harder for newer players to get into the game, and when they do play, I feel like they rarely stay, and they certainly get more flack from veteran players than they ever did. A lot of the reason I feel like jTWG was revived in the first place was because people wanted the newer players to stop watering down the quality of the "real" TWG games. There's a lot less crazy, mystery setups than there ever have been (which is ok), OOT is never on (which is ok) and its things like these that, with the effect intended or not, make FFRTWG drift more towards 2+2 and other sites. This is not a bad thing on its own. Hell, if its what people want, that's fine. But is having the attitude that permeates on those sites alright for FFRTWG is the real concern in my opinion. I'm rather afraid that it might be impossible to have one without having the other.

Personally, I'm not 100% ok with this. For years FFRTWG has been a place where people can just goof off while trying to win. The emphasis had always really been on the former, and thankfully, I don't think that this has changed yet. I think it is starting to, though.

What I'm getting at is, I think what the community wants as a whole regarding Red Blaster's eligibility says a lot about what we want FFRTWG to be as a whole. I'm honestly shocked so many people want him to stay banned. Forever. Just thinking about what that means makes me feel uncomfortable.

I talked about this before when people were giving Red Blaster shit, but I feel like people are voting with their hearts instead of their heads. People look back and they laugh about the time that V intentionally got Fiction and himself modkilled essentially ruining town's chances of a victory. Yes, he thought Fiction was a wolf. Was it ever ok for him to do what he did? ABSOLUTELY NOT. I hate to harp on V because he's not the only person who has done this (lurker, choof, DBP, Psycho among others who have threatened to post their PM at least once, even jokingly) but he also threatened to post his PM in the Rock-Paper-Scissors game, again, not just to troll but for strategic reasons (would take a long time to explain these).

However, when Red Blaster has threatened to post, or has posted his PM, the response has been different. And it should be. But we as a community cannot sit here and laugh about V posting his PM, thus allowing the wolves to win the next phase, (essentially throwing a game! see what I'm getting at here?) and then, on the same matter, condemn Red Blaster to the FFRTWG equivalent of eternal damnation.

This sucks to say but I feel like Red's getting the shafting simply because we don't like him or whatever. Please don't make it about that, guys. Please don't vote based on that. Vote how you would if you didn't know Red Blaster at all.

I'm a bit scared I made this post too late to matter, but its how I feel.

[.Gazelle.]

Originally Posted by MrPopadopalis25

I say yes if only because I want to have a game where Zenith and Red go at it like two starving lions fighting over a big juicy gazelle.

[thesunfan]

Votecount (considering only people who have played at least one game of FFRTWG and changing blind's vote to reflect how he feels)

Red staying banned: 10

Red being unbanned: 10

EDIT: FUCK I bottompaged my own important post.