I need some feedback/constructive criticism

[Strum]

K so, this is the literately the first time I've ever tried stepping. I spent like 2-3 hours looking up how to step properly and I decided to do something relatively easy to start with.

This was the result:

This is still a wip and I dunno if I'm cutting it yet, I might just step the entire thing. All I'm looking for is some feedback on what I could do to make this better. Thanks in advance. :3

[C1004A]

well first off, it seems like you've got syncing and putting steps to correct beats down.

you also seem to love using hands but for that song it didnt' really seem necessary because i didn't notice any big increase in sound or loudness for hands when compared to normal jumps


also, song choice could be better.. it sounds pretty repetitive (so a cut would be pretty nice) - otherwise, for your first time stepping, it's a great start.

[Mau5]

You've got the rhythm down, now just focus on putting in patterns..

In my opinion the 3 major steps are knowing the rhythm (listen to the song), inserting notes (rough draft), and then go back and make them into beautiful patterns (final draft)

Patterns is where instrumentation comes in. When you hear that bass, for instance, some people try inserting a left arrow for each time the bass hits, regardless if it includes a jump (for a different instrument) or other notes in between each bass hit.

A good example is powerpuff gabberz, play that and you can see what Hammy does in that and it's pretty genius actually haha.. Just keep experimenting and getting more experienced
Another would be La campanella, WC did a good job syncing the arrows with the actual notes on a piano

EXCELLENT job for the first time you've ever stepped though.. You should see my first song, it's awful....

[Strum]

Thanks for the feedback. And yeah, I was really really iffy on the hands. It was pretty much the reason why I made this thread. Glad I made this thread because I wasn't really too sure how this file would look to some people if I just made it without feedback and submitted it to something.

[Mau5]

Originally Posted by Strum

Thanks for the feedback. And yeah, I was really really iffy on the hands. It was pretty much the reason why I made this thread. Glad I made this thread because I wasn't really too sure how this file would look to some people if I just made it without feedback and submitted it to something.

Haha dont ever be scared of looking for a second opinion :P i have friends look at stuff for me for pretty much everything i make or produce, It's very very helpful haha

[Strum]

Ironically enough I actually thought syncing was going to be the hardest part for stepping but for the most part it's not because I don't really plan on stepping anything with insane BPM changes just yet.

[who_cares973]

nice file. hand usage was cool and i get why you added them dont listen to any of these PUNK ASS BITCHES

keep on keepin on bro and soon you'll be as good as me

swag

[Strum]

Originally Posted by who_cares973

nice file. hand usage was cool and i get why you added them dont listen to any of these PUNK ASS BITCHES

keep on keepin on bro and soon you'll be as good as me

swag

Lmao thanks. <3

I originally had jumps where the hands were but I thought to myself "Ok jeez this is going to be boring to play." so I made them hands.

[C1004A]

well anyhow, if you're ever gonna send in files to FFR
try to avoid sections like that near the end (hand+singles) because FFR judges h8 lots of hands (esp the ones at end of your file)

but on stepmania, hand usage is kool

[who_cares973]

speaking as an ffr judge i dont hate hands. actually no one hates hand and its a common misconception. please add as many hands as you want when submitting to ffr

sincerely,

wc ffr judge

[C1004A]

carlos is lying cause evrytim i send in files w/ hands judges h8 on hands rly hard

[who_cares973]

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[Strum]

Originally Posted by C1004A

well anyhow, if you're ever gonna send in files to FFR
try to avoid sections like that near the end (hand+singles) because FFR judges h8 lots of hands (esp the ones at end of your file)

but on stepmania, hand usage is kool

I'd honestly believe that if Futsuu No Uta wasn't in game. Although I can see where you're getting at. Just, the file feels really plain and awkward without them so if it gets denied then whatever, it's cool.

[C1004A]

well im not saying hands are bad all the time

what i should be saying is: correctly using hands takes a lot of stepping skill, and there are not many songs that justify the usage of many hands in succession

but if used well, hands can help make gr8 stepfiles (it's just that it's rly hard to pull off)

if ur gonna submit to ffr though, good luck! u should've stepped earlier and sent it in a few days ago

batches dont open for months

[Strum]

Alright. :3

I was thinking about stepping for the batch a few days ago but I didn't think I was going to be any good at it so I didn't bother lol.

[Yesssss]

The biggest issue with the file is the song choice. It's very repetitive with very few things to actually make it difficult enough for it to be a fun keyboard file.

This is fine if you're just practicing on easier songs before you try anything more difficult, since you can't expect the first files you make to be of releasable quality.

I will give you props for starting out stepping a song that hasn't been stepped before.

[who_cares973]

Agreed with yessssss

[ScylaX]

Yeah your ideas are cool!!
The only thing needed for you is to improve your musical ear and your own listening to the song so you could make appropriated steps. The problem exists for every beginners in stepping : the sensory conception of the song is always simpler than what it should be, you'll just improve naturally by experience.

[xferrarix]

i never realized FFR had some kind of rumor about hating hands

songs can have hands because generally there's parts that need more expression than just a jump (or if you're stepping a sound a note those parts require triples)

[Oni-Paranoia]

The cut of a song is typically the problem, not the song itself in all cases.

And about the "hating hands at the end" crap has to be bullshit. Every other rhythm game has some type of build up within some files for the pure purpose of "this is the end, and it is going to be ****ing hard."