Hillary Clinton or Obama?

[kangolokster]

well.. there two ppl are battling it out.. One thing i think having a
Lady as a President will be a surprise to be the first one..
On the other hand Obama is african american.. so he will also
be the first African American President of the US..
So what do you guys think about this?



*edit* well if you want more info based on this you can go to kcal9.com
they are having a little chat there about this...and here is more info bout this..


In the Super Tuesday battle for GOP delegates, CBS News estimates that John McCain will win the delegate-rich, winner-take-all states of New York, New Jersey, Connecticut and Delaware, as well as the states of Illinois and Oklahoma and his home state of Arizona. Democrats Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama were running a tight race on Super Tuesday, with Obama leading in the race for states, but Clinton holding a small edge in the battle for convention delegates.

CBS News projects Hillary Clinton has won the California primary for the Dems, while John McCain has won the Republican state primary in the delegate-rich state.

*California is Super Tuesday's richest prize. The state has long been a Hillary Clinton
Strong hold - so much that her California campaign director already has predicted Victory!

The former first lady is also projected to win in Arizona, Oklahoma, Tennessee, New Jersey, New York -- which she has represented in the Senate since 2001 -- and Arkansas, where her husband, former President Bill Clinton, once served as governor.

*Alabama is a deep south state with a large black population like South Carolina, where
Obama had a commanding victory delivered by black voters. Black voters usually make up
40 to 50 percent of Alabama's Democratic primary turnout.

Obama is projected to win eleven states: Idaho, Colorado, Georgia, Alabama, Utah his home state of Illinois, and the Northeast states of Connecticut and Delaware -- both once viewed as Clinton strongholds. He is also projected to win the caucuses in North Dakota, Minnesota and Kansas, where he had the endorsement of the state's popular female governor and family roots on his mother's side.

[Rubin0]

I am undecided as of right now.

Grammar plz.

[kangolokster]

updated.....

[moches]

Shouldn't this be in Critical Thinking?

[Aroeloks]

probably should.. but this is a real though choice..
good luck on who ever wins this thing... =/

[Rubin0]

Maybe you should post the link that you got that from.

[foilman8805]

It's not really an election...it's a primary. Party elections won't even take place until June.

Not that it matters much for me anyways, I'm a registered Republican, so I can't vote for either.

[windsurfer-sp]

I personally like Obama better. Hillary just reeks too much of politics for my liking.

I think the world would defiantly be a different place with Obama as the president. Quite simply because he would be a black president, regardless of his policy. The world wouldn't be that different with a female president IMO.

Oh and at least try a little harder with the grammar please. It makes threads bearable.

Oh and like foil said its primaries.

[BaBe_StArZ]

Not That I Care For Any.. I Cant Vote Either
I Agree More With These Guys Be More Specific With The Grammar
Well I Think Obama Is Going To Win This

[ledwix]

Looks like Hillary is going to win by far in California. This is a big blow to Obama supporters, since it seemed he had the momentum to close in on her. Now, the delegate spread is over 100, barring the last Super Tuesday votes, Alaska and New Mexico.

I think Clinton will win the Demo nomination. There aren't enough young people voting. It seems like people tend to think that more experience = more potential for success. I'm all for Obama, though.

[foilman8805]

Originally Posted by windsurfer-sp

The world wouldn't be that different with a female president IMO.

Man, are you kidding? If she managed to keep control of Congress, and became President, so much **** would change.

All those things that women like - education, healthcare, the environment, etc would all become the center of attention. She would probably wreck the budget with that stuff too (not that it isn't already out of control, but she would make it worse).

Not to mention foreign policy would be a joke with her, because all of those Middle Eastern countries we have such a problem with won't talk to women, and that's JUST what we need.

P.S. What about that 'time of the month'? That's all we need is a PMSing president to drop a 50 megaton nuke on Iran.

[Rubin0]

Originally Posted by BaBe_StArZ

I Agree More With These Guys Be More Specific With The Grammar

Says the guy that is a little too friendly with the Shift button.

[Bynary Fission]

Honestly, Obama needs to win. I won't say why, I'd crash the server if I tried to type it all. But for those who say they don't know what he wants to change, listen to what the man says. Clinton does not need to be the next president, she has shown us all that she is not capable of being a good president with her smear campaigns and mudslinging. Obama > Hillary. Or should I say, Billary.




~Bynary Fission

[ledwix]

Originally Posted by foilman8805

Man, are you kidding? If she managed to keep control of Congress, and became President, so much **** would change.

All those things that women like - education, healthcare, the environment, etc would all become the center of attention. She would probably wreck the budget with that stuff too (not that it isn't already out of control, but she would make it worse).

Not to mention foreign policy would be a joke with her, because all of those Middle Eastern countries we have such a problem with won't talk to women, and that's JUST what we need.

P.S. What about that 'time of the month'? That's all we need is a PMSing president to drop a 50 megaton nuke on Iran.

Lol...I guess having a man as a president is bad, because when he visits other countries as the chief ambassador he'll never ask for directions and thus won't arrive on time at any of his meetings. And he'll be out fishing and playing golf too much *COUGH* and watching sports to think enough to pass good legislation. Basically, just turn over the stereotypical gender boundary to either side and it becomes what you want it to be. You might have a point about the respect for women in the Middle East, though?

[Rubin0]

Originally Posted by foilman8805

Man, are you kidding? If she managed to keep control of Congress, and became President, so much **** would change.

All those things that women like - education, healthcare, the environment, etc would all become the center of attention. She would probably wreck the budget with that stuff too (not that it isn't already out of control, but she would make it worse).

Not to mention foreign policy would be a joke with her, because all of those Middle Eastern countries we have such a problem with won't talk to women, and that's JUST what we need.

P.S. What about that 'time of the month'? That's all we need is a PMSing president to drop a 50 megaton nuke on Iran.

How can you be so openly sexist? Clinton is an extremely intelligent woman with an excellent grasp of politics. I might not support everything on her agenda, but throwing around the PMS card is completely inappropriate and underminding in regards to a woman that has accomplished so much more than most men have. And the reason the Middle East has little regard for women is for close-minded men like you. I use the term "men" very loosely.

I have little to no respect for you.

[foilman8805]

So lets have someone they won't even talk to try to fix the problem, right?

Don't be so naive. I'm not sexist - the world is.

EDIT: The PMS thing was said in jest.

[kangolokster]

basically.. you guys want Hillary to win.. *According to the poll*

[Rubin0]

Originally Posted by foilman8805

All those things that women like - education, healthcare, the environment, etc would all become the center of attention. She would probably wreck the budget with that stuff too (not that it isn't already out of control, but she would make it worse).

You don't find this statment sexist in the least bit. Funny.

[ledwix]

Originally Posted by kangolokster

basically.. you guys want Hillary to win.. *According to the poll*

Who do you think will win the election?
Hillary

Who do you WANT to win the election?
OBAMA!

Distinct difference if the poll was worded as intended.

[kangolokster]

Originally Posted by ledwix

Who do you think will win the election?
Hillary

Who do you WANT to win the election?
OBAMA!

Distinct difference if the poll was worded as intended.

agreed!