TWG 194 - Game Thread

[leetic]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

@literally everyone

You guys are -all- okay with a Duskfall lynch ?

I'm not entirely convinced

[leetic]

Duskfall being scum predicates on DBP blocking him, where DBP is the blocker claim I trust less. It also requires one to trust Haku, which is not something I'm certain about either.

[Duskfall]

greetings friends

[Duskfall]

I am waiting for dbp to get on so i can talk to him a bit before i probably vote him

I have not had many confident reads this game and i think that is kind of clear

In the end I have realised that when in doubt, i should sheep someone wasn't in doubt so i will vote dbp based on mikey's word. Despite him playing terribly mechanically he was obviously convinced hard on dbp and right now i should probably trust mikey's 100 percent confidence amongst players he knows well, over my unsureness amongst players i don't know.

If people want to suspect me, don't vte me you will let the chance later in the day. Let me place the first vote.

[leetic]

Originally Posted by Duskfall

I am waiting for dbp to get on so i can talk to him a bit before i probably vote him

I have not had many confident reads this game and i think that is kind of clear

In the end I have realised that when in doubt, i should sheep someone wasn't in doubt so i will vote dbp based on mikey's word. Despite him playing terribly mechanically he was obviously convinced hard on dbp and right now i should probably trust mikey's 100 percent confidence amongst players he knows well, over my unsureness amongst players i don't know.

If people want to suspect me, don't vte me you will let the chance later in the day. Let me place the first vote.

If DBP is real though, he can prevent us from losing the game even if we mislynch. Who do you think are DBP's partners? It would be safer to lynch from there.

[Duskfall]

Originally Posted by leetic

If DBP is real though, he can prevent us from losing the game even if we mislynch. Who do you think are DBP's partners? It would be safer to lynch from there.

If I had to pick a scum myself it would be haku, but they play just seems like the wishy washiest of all time I don't know if that is towny for them

[MixMasterLar]

I literally don't know how to respond to Dusk's "anti town doesnt mean scum" horseshit like what the fuck

I've played with people all around the world and frankly your effort is pisspoor regardless of your timezone

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

Entertaining the idea of a nolynch tonight
Though it'd probably get hijacked last minute by a wolf 1vote wagon so I guess that kills that idea

We shouldnt no lynch, but i believe you can actually vote "no lynch" and if that gets the most votes then it wins regardless if a wolf 1 votes something.

Originally Posted by leetic

Ties, I presume, will be handled by no lynch, correct?

Random.org

Originally Posted by Duskfall

If I had to pick a scum myself it would be haku, but they play just seems like the wishy washiest of all time I don't know if that is towny for them

So Haku is wolf but he's playing a horrible town game so it might be towny.

I was gonna say Jessie over Dusk but he's like trying his hardest to be my vote rn

[Duskfall]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

I literally don't know how to respond to Dusk's "anti town doesnt mean scum" horseshit like what the fuck

I've played with people all around the world and frankly your effort is pisspoor regardless of your timezone




We shouldnt no lynch, but i believe you can actually vote "no lynch" and if that gets the most votes then it wins regardless if a wolf 1 votes something.



Random.org



So Haku is wolf but he's playing a horrible town game so it might be towny.

I was gonna say Jessie over Dusk but he's like trying his hardest to be my vote rn

Where did i say he is playing a horrible town game please quote

[DaBackpack]

Originally Posted by Duskfall

I am waiting for dbp to get on so i can talk to him a bit before i probably vote him

I have not had many confident reads this game and i think that is kind of clear

In the end I have realised that when in doubt, i should sheep someone wasn't in doubt so i will vote dbp based on mikey's word. Despite him playing terribly mechanically he was obviously convinced hard on dbp and right now i should probably trust mikey's 100 percent confidence amongst players he knows well, over my unsureness amongst players i don't know.

this is the safest possible response you could have given

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by Duskfall

I am waiting for dbp to get on so i can talk to him a bit before i probably vote him

I have not had many confident reads this game and i think that is kind of clear

In the end I have realised that when in doubt, i should sheep someone wasn't in doubt so i will vote dbp based on mikey's word. Despite him playing terribly mechanically he was obviously convinced hard on dbp and right now i should probably trust mikey's 100 percent confidence amongst players he knows well, over my unsureness amongst players i don't know.

If people want to suspect me, don't vte me you will let the chance later in the day. Let me place the first vote.

Dusk can you explain the bolded? Why was it so important you place the first vote? This is in the phase that you set up the thunderdome with DBP btw

[Duskfall]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

Dusk can you explain the bolded? Why was it so important you place the first vote? This is in the phase that you set up the thunderdome with DBP btw

I was widely scumread and I trusted my ability to find scum over other players, I knew I'd got myself in a bad situation from not actually playing and couldn't reply on town to not vote me and lose the game, haku particularly had expressed interest in lynching me

At that point in time it looked like I was likely to be final mislynch and the only town wincon was me finding scum, which I did

In fact the first day after I stopped memeing (which is nai)

I posted a solve of:
Dbp (correct)
Bolth (correct)
Final scum one of you or Jessie but you were probably the town

So my first readlist although unsure on the third slot had literally the entire scum team as my top 3 scum slots

Sure you can tinfoil my slot, sure it's possible that I hard bussed dbp on a gamethrowing move it's possible

But I didn't, and you shouldn't be assuming I did, the fact is despite you considering all possibilities mafia isn't a game where you can account for all possibilities and sometimes you have two options and you just have to go with one without guarenteeing you are 100 percent right

So to me, you have a choice, lynch the dude who's main contribution was hard tunneling me, who perspective slipt many times throughout the games, as 2 different players, both today as fatfuck and before where we literally agreed in the game, that I caught (the dude literally said he wouldn't try solve if he could get townread without it)

Or you can lynch the guy that you know from his point of view has every scum down in his first readslist

The decisions easy to me, bolth is a pretty easier scumread overall imo, but it's up to you

Btw I'm still genuinely shocked that you are even considering not voting fatfuck here

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by Duskfall

I don't really think it's fair to say I soft defended Jessie I was pushing the player I had cross voted, dbp, I was tunneling a much more townread player that others were afraid to lynch that flipped red

You did defend her though. A few times. Both by dismissing her to other players considering her and in your own reads. Don't tell me you didn't 'cause I just exactly that, and there's no one else here to appeal to

[Duskfall]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

You did defend her though. A few times. Both by dismissing her to other players considering her and in your own reads. Don't tell me you didn't 'cause I just exactly that, and there's no one else here to appeal to

I said she was a worse lynch, which she was

Dbp was a better lynch because he was the most obvious scum in a world

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by Duskfall

I was widely scumread and I trusted my ability to find scum over other players, I knew I'd got myself in a bad situation from not actually playing and couldn't reply on town to not vote me and lose the game, haku particularly had expressed interest in lynching me

At that point in time it looked like I was likely to be final mislynch and the only town wincon was me finding scum, which I did

In fact the first day after I stopped memeing (which is nai)

I posted a solve of:
Dbp (correct)
Bolth (correct)
Final scum one of you or Jessie but you were probably the town

So my first readlist although unsure on the third slot had literally the entire scum team as my top 3 scum slots

Sure you can tinfoil my slot, sure it's possible that I hard bussed dbp on a gamethrowing move it's possible

But I didn't, and you shouldn't be assuming I did, the fact is despite you considering all possibilities mafia isn't a game where you can account for all possibilities and sometimes you have two options and you just have to go with one without guarenteeing you are 100 percent right

So to me, you have a choice, lynch the dude who's main contribution was hard tunneling me, who perspective slipt many times throughout the games, as 2 different players, both today as fatfuck and before where we literally agreed in the game, that I caught (the dude literally said he wouldn't try solve if he could get townread without it)

Or you can lynch the guy that you know from his point of view has every scum down in his first readslist

The decisions easy to me, bolth is a pretty easier scumread overall imo, but it's up to you

Btw I'm still genuinely shocked that you are even considering not voting fatfuck here

Look, as much as you may hate to hear this, the only reason you haven't been lynched yet is that thunderdome with DBP. bolth isn't an easier scumread overall, you are. The exception being that *one* thunderdome. I don't know about you, but I've seen W/W thunderdomes a lot messier than the one you had with DBP. So pardon me for not automatically clearing you based off the one contribution.

[ShadoWolfe]

DBP claimed roleblocker who holstered N1, blocked FFA N2, and blocked Dusk N3. This is before the massclaim.

Does DBP claim he blocked his partner so that he can block someone else, like MML?
OR
Does he have the mafia roleblocker block a townie so he can claim to block that townie and gain potential credibility?

Probably the latter

[Duskfall]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

Look, as much as you may hate to hear this, the only reason you haven't been lynched yet is that thunderdome with DBP. bolth isn't an easier scumread overall, you are. The exception being that *one* thunderdome. I don't know about you, but I've seen W/W thunderdomes a lot messier than the one you had with DBP. So pardon me for not automatically clearing you based off the one contribution.

That's bs we mindmelded earlier in the game on bolth slipping and you thought I was towny from it

If you're gonna mislynch me w/e but stop trying to put your tinfoiling on me

[leetic]

Also calculus final for me so I won't be as active in the next few hours, so don't let me down

[MixMasterLar]

Haku back on that Lar is scum bullshit

Dear God i fucking wish I died in the night fuck this game

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by MixMasterLar

Haku back on that Lar is scum bullshit

Dear God i fucking wish I died in the night fuck this game

tbh I want to believe that every PRs are town and that DBP did the much needed play.

Even in that utopic world, it's still hard to solve everything.

If it's any more complex than that, town wasn't probably going to win anyway.

[MixMasterLar]

Yeah I'm only voting between Dusk/Jessie. Mighy still be Jessie. Almost want to add Haku to the list but I think how he handles EoD can be telling of him