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Old 08-3-2015, 10:13 AM   #21
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Thanks for the info Lurker, gives us more data points to verify when we implement fixes.
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Old 08-3-2015, 10:36 AM   #22
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Worst way of taking feedback ever lmao

Site is looking pretty great, great job waffles & mina <3

I actually made a similar system for handling smo scores which has
never been released at public yet, i thought it may interest some of the ideas i put there, check your inbox waffles

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Old 08-3-2015, 12:03 PM   #23
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^most elitist post I've seen in years, my god that's a cringey read

OP: "Hey guys we're releasing a beta of this neat algorithm that's going to have a ton of flaws so give us your feedback!

Community: *gives feedback*

Mina: "You guys are mean I can fix it on my own"


Show some backbone, it's going to be expected when you release a beta version of anything that people pick it apart.
You're confusing giving feedback by method of indicating erroneous ratings and bugs and giving feedback by attempting to guess at what problems may or may not be and making judgments on the system as a whole using unfounded assumptions.

The former is healthy and useful. The latter is pointless.

I simply ask that people understand the difference.

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Old 08-3-2015, 01:34 PM   #24
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Default Re: Stepmania Leaderboards Released!

Should I assume that each ranked chart is on the hardest difficulty?
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Old 08-3-2015, 02:25 PM   #25
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Should I assume that each ranked chart is on the hardest difficulty?
Yes. We will take special consideration to note any easier ranked difficulties. For further clarification I will likely be adding a difficulty field into the site soon. (hm, I'll probably want to call it something other than "difficulty" since that could be confusing next to "difficulty score")

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Old 08-3-2015, 05:21 PM   #26
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pretty interesting stuff, would like to see how accurate the top players believe the difficulties are once the algorithm is refined

potentially already noted and being worked on but noticed that kirlian shores 1.4 is producing a lower difficulty rating than 1.3, but 1.5 seems to scale appropriately
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Old 08-3-2015, 05:26 PM   #27
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Are the difficulties supposed to correspond to FFR divisions?
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Old 08-3-2015, 06:14 PM   #28
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In short, the algorithm makes passes on the file for assumed player difficulty "X", increasing the value by 0.01 every time. Once it gets 93% that becomes the difficulty of the file.
Please don't actually only increase skill by 0.01 each time through the file. Use a binary search instead. A few minutes of work now can save you hours of waiting later when you decide to change the algorithm and have to make it rerate all the simfiles.
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Old 08-3-2015, 06:15 PM   #29
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Are the difficulties supposed to correspond to FFR divisions?
Although it seems close, the difficulty numbers represented on the leader boards are not actually meant to correspond to division numbers on FFR. They may be sort of similar, but they stop being close after about 5 or so, I think.

These numbers are also temporary, and will always be changing as the calculators algorithms change
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Old 08-4-2015, 12:44 AM   #30
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Please don't actually only increase skill by 0.01 each time through the file. Use a binary search instead. A few minutes of work now can save you hours of waiting later when you decide to change the algorithm and have to make it rerate all the simfiles.
Yeah it wasn't a problem when we had relatively few files, I will be optimizing. Right now its like 10-12ish minutes to recalculate all 724 files, so yeah, as that starts getting into the multiple thousands its going to start being a problem.

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Old 08-4-2015, 12:46 AM   #31
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My name is not in any of the rankings.
I disapprove
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Gotta add your own scores buddy.
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Old 08-4-2015, 05:47 AM   #34
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Leonid's name is not in any of the rankings.
I disapprove

Edit: On another note, just a heads up




And there are some great image links like http://smleaderboards.net/profile/vi...table.%3C/p%3E in fanta's page atm.

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Old 08-4-2015, 09:21 AM   #35
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This thing is cool!
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Old 08-4-2015, 12:53 PM   #36
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So the site won't load profiles with spaces in their usernames...just redirects to the home page for the site .-.
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Old 08-4-2015, 12:57 PM   #37
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So the site won't load profiles with spaces in their usernames...just redirects to the home page for the site .-.
Oo that's a new one I didn't notice before. I'll try to fix this tonight.
edit: Fixed

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Old 08-5-2015, 01:43 AM   #38
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Default Re: Stepmania Leaderboards Released!

This is pretty neat Unfortunately most of the songs I've been playing lately aren't on there lol. Found the submission form so I'll be making liberal use of that. I hope that's OK :P
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Old 08-5-2015, 09:10 AM   #39
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Yeah of course, that's what its there for. Mods kept up on requests pretty good last night. 1075 ranked charts at the moment. That's pretty good for 3 days.
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Old 08-5-2015, 11:23 PM   #40
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I think the grading system might be bugged. Just submitted my score for Blue Meteor and it says I got a AA when I only got a B.
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