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View Poll Results: Should Crowdpleaser be Removed from Public Level Ranks? | |||
Yes | 67 | 56.30% | |
No | 46 | 38.66% | |
Undecided | 6 | 5.04% | |
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02-13-2014, 05:54 PM | #121 |
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Re: On the Removal of Crowdpleaser from Level Ranks
FCs achieved in the last 2-3 years could be investigated with the imager and blatantly DS'd FCs could be removed. I'm positive that at least 95% of the FCs are DS'd but no one's removed anything yet due to the 'joke' nature of the file.
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02-13-2014, 05:56 PM | #122 | ||
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Re: On the Removal of Crowdpleaser from Level Ranks
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Can you think of any other sections of any charts in this game, besides vROFL, that are intended only to be able to be FCd and not AAAd? Again, vibrating that fast isn't "hard". It's just anatomically different than any other skill like one-handed trilling because it doesn't scale any way similarly. The FFR community that plays hard charts is only doing so on spread, so I don't see the validity of your DDR/index analogy. A double setup is almost unanimously regarded as cheating. But it would just be utilizing your resources. An awkward pattern is nothing comparable to a 480 BPM trill. Semi-unrelated issue, I hate notion/connotation of "awkward pattern" because it implies the stepartist has done something wrong, when in reality it's just a pattern that is more difficult. But they are still all totally accomplishable as intended. A 480 BPM trill is in a whole other ballpark. Quote:
That's a non sequitur. It doesn't logically follow that some people taking hundreds of tries to AAA easier charts means the CP trill isn't hard. The CP trill is the hardest part of any chart in the game, so unless you're using something even harder as a frame of reference, the trill in CP must be considered hard. |
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02-13-2014, 05:57 PM | #123 |
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Re: On the Removal of Crowdpleaser from Level Ranks
We can't tell the difference so the rank is meaningless. So it would be better off removed from rankings.
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02-13-2014, 05:59 PM | #124 |
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Re: On the Removal of Crowdpleaser from Level Ranks
OWA how did you get the AAA?
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02-13-2014, 05:59 PM | #125 |
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Re: On the Removal of Crowdpleaser from Level Ranks
No, it would be better off removed from the game period. If people are going to complain about ONE file being "too hard" then thats on them. Its just one damn file.
He overlayed :P
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02-13-2014, 05:59 PM | #126 |
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Re: On the Removal of Crowdpleaser from Level Ranks
Overlay, as everyone else who has. Dossar's score is the best legit one. (actually I only know that samurai's, owa's, and tera's are overlayed, not sure about halogen's, sorry if I'm mistaken)
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02-13-2014, 06:03 PM | #127 | |
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You can do the rolls in RATO. You can do the anchors. You can do the trills and vibratrill in DP. It's humanly possible. Every single part of RATO and DP is doable as they are(arguably DP trill takes some luck but is at the speed that most players vibrate, not 480 BPM like CP). But since they throw fast stuff at you nonstop the charts end up producing worse scores. Last edited by ilikexd; 02-13-2014 at 06:11 PM.. |
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02-13-2014, 06:05 PM | #128 |
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Re: On the Removal of Crowdpleaser from Level Ranks
Like I said I would like it gone so people stop placing me so damn high.
But I'm arguing the supportive aide because no one was.
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02-13-2014, 06:07 PM | #129 |
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Re: On the Removal of Crowdpleaser from Level Ranks
I dont get what you are saying really. The trill HAS been aaad legit.
The trill HAS been fc'd legit as well. its humanly possible to do, maybe not to everyone but it IS possible. lol kmay you have other scores that make you D6, just saying
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02-13-2014, 06:09 PM | #130 |
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Re: On the Removal of Crowdpleaser from Level Ranks
You mean placing you in a higher division than you think you should be in? They're demonstrably wrong because CP is one of two (I think?) files that stress vibrating and should in almost no way be used as a measure of overall FFR skill / divisional placement.
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02-13-2014, 06:11 PM | #131 |
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Re: On the Removal of Crowdpleaser from Level Ranks
kmay who is placing you higher than you should be placed in tourneys based on a crowdpleaser score?
@Nathan, I'm pretty sure AJ set his left/right inputs to wider keys on his kb (caps lock and right shift?) and one hand trilled the 64ths |
02-13-2014, 06:13 PM | #132 |
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02-13-2014, 06:23 PM | #133 |
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Re: On the Removal of Crowdpleaser from Level Ranks
Why isn't vRofl in the public ranks? It's just one file. If you can't AAA it, tough. That's on you.
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02-13-2014, 06:29 PM | #134 | |
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Moving a song to token ranks without it actually being a token shouldnt be happening.
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02-13-2014, 06:33 PM | #135 |
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Re: On the Removal of Crowdpleaser from Level Ranks
Whimper wall then. It was released as a public song just like CP
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02-13-2014, 06:33 PM | #136 | |
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Im pretty much for it being stuck in tokens simply because I really dont like people overlaying CP, while it is technically not cheating, I still see it as cheating as you are using four fingers for two arrows repeating back and forth. Its a huge slap to the face to those who actually play the trill as is and vibrate through it, using overlay pmuch makes it play as a roll iirc if thats how it works, which is pretty cheap and BS FC/AAA. I really dont care if it stays or go, it will just always be annoying in my mind when I see people hyped about a good scored obtained with overlay, but that mindset will be there whether its public or in the token ranks haha. |
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02-13-2014, 06:34 PM | #137 |
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Re: On the Removal of Crowdpleaser from Level Ranks
Scores didnt record on it, and it was only a one day thing,
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02-13-2014, 06:38 PM | #138 |
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Re: On the Removal of Crowdpleaser from Level Ranks
Scores did record and they were in the ranks for weeks, and some people even got VRofl off it.
My point though is that the same arguments you are making can be applied to a file like whimper wall. |
02-13-2014, 07:46 PM | #139 | |
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You guys are defending a file that is retarded on every point; it's bad technically (this, if you disagree, I'm out of here), it's bad in terms of consistency (better change the file to only the wall...), it's bad in terms of lvlranks representation, and kmay you tell me I'm wrong for saying the file is bad and telling me to learn to argue. Are you serious. If you read my arguments, you would see that I explicitely mentioned that I'm not against the vibrating itself, I'm against the fact that you're defending a retardedly bad file. Put that trill somewhere where it makes sense, in a chart where the difficulty doesnt jump from 1 to 100 for 2 seconds for example, and I won't complain. |
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02-13-2014, 07:57 PM | #140 |
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Re: On the Removal of Crowdpleaser from Level Ranks
Yeah my argument is more focused on the impossibility of the trill, but the difficulty spike argument is also reasonable. I think it's the worst one in any chart.
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