TWG CLXVII Game Thread How Was Awakening Reviewed

[Xiz]

Thus, I don't buy his claim.

[DarkManticoreX2]

Sorry, I know this is shitty, but I can't do a full post right now. I have an 8:00 am work
meeting in 6 hours that I need to be awake for. Gonna copy verbatim from my notes.

Xiz: Post #1607 screams panicked wolf who didn't read the setup. Tiloco comes out as blue, suggests a xiz wagon, and xiz immediately retreats to "did you get a check, if so millers"



Blind: Has been friendly towards xel all game, historically these two are a toxic pairing. Need to look deeper into interactions.



Tiloco: D1 voting record tarnished by pushing LK lynch, D2 voting record stuck on Xiz. Voting record is super poor.

D2 blue claim is highly questionable considering living through the night. Looks like a wolf that wanted to claim out of possibly being lynched, which is quality wolf play considering confirming he's a blue might be impossible with LK dead.

If xiz is a mislynch Tiloco should die.

[Xiz]

(I'm in the process of making a Blind post but sidetracked)
Can I ask who believes WV is still towny? Looking at his posts again I still think so.

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond

nah im for fake

what first time wolf has the balls to do this

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond

tiloco wolf
freezin wolf
tokzic wolf
xel wolf

or this

[Xiz]

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

Xiz: Post #1607 screams panicked wolf who didn't read the setup. Tiloco comes out as blue, suggests a xiz wagon, and xiz immediately retreats to "did you get a check, if so millers"

I panicked because I thought I was going to die, wrong eod timezone from Cali->CO and I did not fully read the setup upon playing.

Gonna get a lot of hate for that but that's how it was. Sorry.

[Xiz]

Originally Posted by blindreper1179

listen people its ME OF ALL PEOPLE

I don't think xel should die right now. his flips gives us NOTHING essentially.

At this point the tokzic wagon was (unless im mistaken) no longer 2nd wagon but like kitb 2nd wagon with someone else. I think that if he could have gotten one to vote onto a 3rd wagon outside of tokzic then a misslynch would have occured.

I don't believe that blindreaper believes this.

Now knowing Xel's flip, I can see Xel/Tokzic/Blind in this scenario.

Originally Posted by blindreper1179

tokzic

yes you can.

Potential bus, assuming the narrative of Xel/Tok/Blind

Originally Posted by blindreper1179

...but I don't see us gathering much info from a xel flip which is another reason I'm not hopping on with inD. Main reason being I think he's townsided. For now.

I don't remember blind ever calling xel town, will check

Originally Posted by blindreper1179

Xel- we have a hate hate relationship so I always want to lynch him, but he hasn't been too bad this game. I'd rather work towards victory than try to kill him like usual. Null

K so he calls him null here, there is a gap between when he thinks he is null to town?

Originally Posted by blindreper1179

Yeah, mafia usually only have one night kill here. But being the kind of game it is, it could be a thing???? But a third faction is more likely to us.

This feels important now, for reasons I will come back to later.

Originally Posted by blindreper1179

I've read their reasons but I don't see it. I know tiloco is good at woof, but I don't think he'd put in this much work at it.

How many fourm games have you played with him @blind, in live and forum


I'd like to point out that re-reading MML VS Blind feels t/t but then reading again:

Originally Posted by blindreper1179

And I'm not scum. And it's not a good thing no one thinks I am, that's an easy target for woof kills.

Feels more scummy then not in general.

[Xiz]

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

Xiz: Post #1607 screams panicked wolf who didn't read the setup. Tiloco comes out as blue, suggests a xiz wagon, and xiz immediately retreats to "did you get a check, if so millers"

When I die in the night and flip town, don't go looking at tiloco unless it goes to final 3 or something. While it is possible in this mystery game, I find it improbable that he is mafia.

[tiloco217]

Xiz why do you think that I'm town now?

[tiloco217]

Also I'm curious why you decided to iso Blind specifically.

[Xiz]

Originally Posted by tiloco217

Xiz why do you think that I'm town now?

Because at the moment I currently doubt a double-stack happened on Freez considering two blue claims. I know you are going to not like this but I don't want to discuss this more yet until I hear what people say over the next 24? hours.

[Xiz]

Originally Posted by tiloco217

Also I'm curious why you decided to iso Blind specifically.

blinds eod mixed with xel's flip.

[tiloco217]

Originally Posted by Xiz

Because at the moment I currently doubt a double-stack happened on Freez considering two blue claims. I know you are going to not like this but I don't want to discuss this more yet until I hear what people say over the next 24? hours.

I am EXTREMELY confused by this response but I'll play along and drop if for a little while

[blindreper1179]

All I can say is I fucked up about Xel and am very upset I had the opportunity to hammer him and I didn't. Its been tearing at me all night phase.

Take it how you will, I'm most likely in a whole I can't get out of anyways with most of you.

[blindreper1179]

Hole*

[MixMasterLar]

Sorry for not being here start of the day. Was drained and went to bed for a nap. Overslept and now I'm hungry at ~7am when I should be sleeping :/

With only one kill, either we had a vigi role (fuck you) or someone saved Til in the night. If it was a save then no one claim this. Also possible wolves just had a gimmick that allowed them an extra shot and they took it day 1 but I feel this is less likely---Why the fuck would anyone pass a blue claim? Be some stupid ass wolves.

I see some of you saying Til could be lying. If we had two kills I would 100% agree but with one I think he mighta just been saved.

Let's see

votecount:
soundwave (1)- Xel
Xiz (1)- tiloco
tokzic (4)- Cel, WV, blind, Xiz
Xel (7)- inDheart, Freezin, Lar, Soundwave, Manti, DBP, Tokzic

InD looks really good as he voted first. Freezin would be super clear from this so that's probably why he was targeted. Soundwave was not only being voted by scum but IIRC pulled Xel ahead. Manti is listed next but I could have sworn he was the last to vote Xel. I don't think this excuses Manti's weird EoD vote from before. If anyone is bussing here it is him.

Originally Posted by inDheart

also clearly xel had the ~craziest~ wolf role of them all

there was some wagoning weirdness which only really makes sense to me if people are trying to save a more valuable wolf role

xel didn't self pres at all and kept his vote on soundwave

So you believe that Tokzic could be a power wolf?

Originally Posted by DaBackpack

no, but that "slip" now functions as a town slip, because his position that wolves had "four crazy roles" is verifiably wrong because Xelnya flipped vanilla wolf

I feel Charu and AA would hate this post so much
Buuuut I kind of want to side with you here. I doubt he faked a slipped.

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

Xiz wolf
Blind wolf
Tiloco wolf maybe????

More in about 10 minutes

huh, weird first post for the day IMHO. He justifies it with having work later, though.

Originally Posted by Xiz

Tl;dr

I truly believe Tokzic is bussing Xel here.

Eh, possible. Tokzic's been flip-foppity with the reads but I don't know if he's the type of player to bus.

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

Sorry, I know this is shitty, but I can't do a full post right now. I have an 8:00 am work
meeting in 6 hours that I need to be awake for. Gonna copy verbatim from my notes.

Xiz: Post #1607 screams panicked wolf who didn't read the setup. Tiloco comes out as blue, suggests a xiz wagon, and xiz immediately retreats to "did you get a check, if so millers"



Blind: Has been friendly towards xel all game, historically these two are a toxic pairing. Need to look deeper into interactions.



Tiloco: D1 voting record tarnished by pushing LK lynch, D2 voting record stuck on Xiz. Voting record is super poor.

D2 blue claim is highly questionable considering living through the night. Looks like a wolf that wanted to claim out of possibly being lynched, which is quality wolf play considering confirming he's a blue might be impossible with LK dead.

If xiz is a mislynch Tiloco should die.

If there where two kills I would absolutely agree with the Tiloco point.
not the world we live in unless it becomes super clear that we only had a oneshot.
The minute a one shot flips we need to lynch Tiloco.

Originally Posted by Xiz

(I'm in the process of making a Blind post but sidetracked)
Can I ask who believes WV is still towny? Looking at his posts again I still think so.



what first time wolf has the balls to do this




or this

I don't think he's scummy, but he needs to step it the fuck up this phase.

Originally Posted by tiloco217

I am EXTREMELY confused by this response but I'll play along and drop if for a little while

Don't worry, I caught that too.
Xiz trending down. Let's see who figures out why.

Originally Posted by blindreper1179

All I can say is I fucked up about Xel and am very upset I had the opportunity to hammer him and I didn't. Its been tearing at me all night phase.

Take it how you will, I'm most likely in a whole I can't get out of anyways with most of you.

Hammering is anti-town. We don't need to insta---Town needs all the tme it can get.

I am scum reading you still but instead of being a moody little prick about being in holes you could always put in maximum effort and fucking actually scumhunt what a unique idea.

Don't do this and I will vote you pure and simple.

[MixMasterLar]

I am going to eat and then if I am smart I am going to try and sleep a little more to get back on schedule

I don't know how smart I am though.

Anyway see you guys later

[blindreper1179]

I plan to lar. I work all day then have my son tonight, ill put work in on my breaks today tomorrow and after work tomorrow.

[blindreper1179]

and the hammering thing is more so because it was Xel, I would of waited till the last minute. I didn't feel he was scum though, so I know he won in his head that he fooled me, which is annoying. Lol

[Wayward Vagabond]

Originally Posted by Xiz

(I'm in the process of making a Blind post but sidetracked)
Can I ask who believes WV is still towny? Looking at his posts again I still think so.



what first time wolf has the balls to do this




or this

why are you so insistent on having people know that you think i'm town. i appreciate it but it's coming off like you're piggybacking me and it's rubbing me the wrong way

[Wayward Vagabond]

also what was up with that celery vote

[Wayward Vagabond]

i'm going to reread last day and reassess everything because i was ass wrong with freezin and now i'm not so sure about tokzic or tiloco