Queue/Batch Discussion Thread v2

[kommisar]

you never even asked me for reasoning

asking to re-judge is basically saying me judging is worthless


I gave a 1 for a reason, not because I'm a dick. I felt like the file in question wasn't fit to be in game, and needed an overhaul. Instead of going "waaah file rejected REJUDGE" consider the fact that maybe it does need fixes and that you're not always right.


we have multiple judges for a reason.

[TC_Halogen]

If I was saying you judging is worthless, I would say that all of your ratings should be nullified. That's obviously not my intent. Yes, I want my rating from you nullified, because I strongly feel like it's unjust. I'm not always right, but considering how many batches I've judged (and judged with a lot of scrutiny/detail), I'm fairly certain that other judges would actually assess the file and give it a legitimate rating.

The 1 rating is completely ridiculous under any stretch of the imagination because as I've said before, it's appropriately synced, has a proper offset, and has a legitimate structure.

What exactly is so wrong with the file aside from the two mis-rhythm instances of the right hand piano in the first 10 stepped seconds of the file?

As far as the other file, I don't mind about a rejudge nearly as much about that because the rating doesn't as ridiculous of a variance (four points), but your review was absolutely terrible. If there's not a single jump in the file, it's pretty obvious that I was trying to avoid them. The color usage is clearly for different rapping voices. Everything is explicitly laid out in a way that should be understandable, yet I'm getting bombed for absolutely no reason.

These are reasons why I really strongly disagree with semi-detailed notes not being required for judgment, honestly.

EDIT: Kommi and I are going to talk in private about this -- drama stops here; heated discussion over, bye

[Wayward Vagabond]

Kind of like how my file for I (3 voltage was shit on for no jump
>: (

[kommisar]

I didn't ask silvuh to rejudge arsonist when he rejected it, even though I completely disagreed with his judgment

[Choofers]

If anyone wants in-depth reviews for the files I judged, feel free to PM me.

[TC_Halogen]

Originally Posted by Wayward Vagabond

Kind of like how my file for I (3 voltage was shit on for no jump
>: (

WASN'T ME

I would have been smart enough to know what voltage on the groove radar meant <3 (don't think I judged the file, haha)

[popsicle_3000]

just checking that the judges noticed my post about dossar missing a review of one of my songs?

[Xx{Midnight}xX]

Originally Posted by TC_Halogen

fyi: I mentioned difficulty twice in the notes, once for the ending, and once overall -- there's a difference between having a single difficulty spike and then having wavering difficulty all over the place. Your chart starts with a huge mess of 8th jumps at 240, then very little layering, then standard layering, then almost nothing, then a ridiculous jumpstream run where the running stream itself is 16 taps a second, not including the increase in jump density.

I'm sorry that you don't agree with my notes, but it's not like I bombed you -- I even told you what each of the deductions were to prove that I at least had reasoning of it. Honestly, in most other situations, I would have taken off two points for what you did at the ending, because you had an unnecessary color change, and you technically broke the sync too. There's a number of things I could have kept taking off for, like an extreme repetition in jump patterning when you could have accented something different (like using straight jumps but using PR to accent Miku), or how you had a ton of missed percussion sounds in the section afterward, but I didn't do that.

Talking to you about this chart is about the same as talking to a brick wall

It makes no sense and is a waste of time. I got nothing of value from your notes, and frankly I feel your rating is unjustified to be any lower than a 7 based off what I already said. One of your deductions, the automatic starting from a 9, is complete crap. I'm only saying anything because I feel screwed out of a proper review and rating.

Either explain a complete justified reason for starting at a 9 / 10 that pertains to my chart, or change your rating properly.

Next time, if you plan on docking me a free point for no explainable purpose, just pass my chart. People like you should not be reviewing material for the game if that is the sort of garbage you're gonna pull.

[bmah]

Originally Posted by popsicle_3000

just checking that the judges noticed my post about dossar missing a review of one of my songs?

Was it actually missed or is it a passed file? If it's the latter, then just wait as these passed files are being reviewed.

[AlexDest]

Just calm down Middie. >_>

[mi40]

[Choofers]

Originally Posted by Xx{Midnight}xX

Talking to you about this chart is about the same as talking to a brick wall

It makes no sense and is a waste of time. I got nothing of value from your notes, and frankly I feel your rating is unjustified to be any lower than a 7 based off what I already said. One of your deductions, the automatic starting from a 9, is complete crap. I'm only saying anything because I feel screwed out of a proper review and rating.

Either explain a complete justified reason for starting at a 9 / 10 that pertains to my chart, or change your rating properly.

Next time, if you plan on docking me a free point for no explainable purpose, just pass my chart. People like you should not be reviewing material for the game if that is the sort of garbage you're gonna pull.

he starts at 9/10 because no chart is perfect
there's something you can always improve on
and instead of being a pretentious fuck how about you pm him and ask him for an indepth review

I know that might seem odd coming from me due to all my shit about robotomy, but seriously, break away from your shitty internet persona and stop being a bag of dicks

[trumaestro]

Originally Posted by bmah

passed files are being reviewed.

Do we have an ETA?

[Xx{Midnight}xX]

Originally Posted by AlexDest

Just calm down Middie. >_>

Originally Posted by mi40

That is me calm. I'm [rightfully] annoyed that a chart I worked hard on is getting denied due to some horrendously garbage reasoning. He's pissed his chart got raped by Kommi's review, but he's doing the same thing to me to a lesser extent by simply deducting a free point.

He has yet to give any solid reasoning for why he is screwing me out of that point, and it is literally the point keeping it from having a passable average before the calculations are completed.

How would you feel if your chart got denied because someone has some garbage thought to start ratings at 9/10? I would hope you'd be at least annoyed enough to speak up.

I worked hard on that chart, all I am asking for is a fair review and chance like everyone should get. Docking points needlessly just takes away the chance people work for. It makes the effort worthless if people can just dock things because they feel like it.

[mi40]

i worked rly hard on chipscape but it got denited Oopse BUt i Rekognize dat File needs Bige improvements

and dont lie ur files are definitely not the best in the world, far far from it as a matter of fact so y dont u ask for proper reviews and improve instead ??????? ???

like,,,, u KNo wat im sayng pliase

[Choofers]

His points are totally valid. You're reading way too much into the "start all charts off at 9."

fucen stop

[AlexDest]

Originally Posted by Xx{Midnight}xX

How would you feel if your chart got denied because someone has some garbage thought to start ratings at 9/10? I would hope you'd be at least annoyed enough to speak up.

A 10/10 rating implies that a chart is perfect, and that there's no way it can be improved whatsoever. This is untrue at an objective standpoint because there's always going to be room for improvement no matter what. We don't have an objective way to judge simfiles because we all have our own view on what makes a perfect simfile. Sure, it's your right to question a judge's rating or view on your simfile but if you're going to insult a judge for it on a public forum, then you should probably stop sending simfiles. If you're going to question a judge's notes on your simfile, do so via private messaging or on Skype, AIM, etc.

[rparty89]

when does the submission close?

[bmah]

Originally Posted by trumaestro

Do we have an ETA?

Unfortunately files with a [PASS] rating doesn't have a set date when they're completed, but hopefully as soon as possible. I inform this thread when I do update passed files.

Originally Posted by rparty89

when does the submission close?

Submissions do not close. There's a new system of submitting files. Please read the OP.

[mi40]

but how do you decide the flow of files?

i'm sure the new submission system is bound to receive WAY more files than before since we had batches way less frequently than 2 months