TWG CV: Christmas in the clink

[FoJaR]

Prisoner's Dilemma

Prisoner's dilemma: each twilight, you will be randomly paired off and you must decide whether to betray or trust.

If you both trust each other, you each have a 50% chance of getting a power.

If you both betray each other you recieve no powers.

If one person betrays and the other trusts, the betrayer recieves a power, and the truster gets nothing.

You will not be told if your partner sold you out or not.

If there is an odd number, one person will be randomly left out, and there is a 50% chance that they will retain their previous power.

Prisoner's dilemma happens Twilight, powers come into effect immediately.

Game has a twilight start.

No talking outside of thread during day or twilight for anyone. Wolves and other roles who have permission may talk outside the thread during night phase.

20 players, 5 wolves.

Cardflipping is on, in thread posting is only allowed during the day phase

Day phase is four days long, if no player has a majority of the votes by then, a no lynch will occur

if you dont respond to a dilemma, i flip a coin for you.

Player list

1. V
2. jrodd - killed night three
3. dAnceguy - lynched day four
4. BDN
5. KgZ
6. Manti - lynched day three
7. mellon
8. TPS - killed night three
9. Xiz - killed night one
10. Charu - killed night four
11. clasko - killed night one
12. Riot/yoshl
13. lito - modkilled human
14. rune - modkilled wolf
15. Gradiant/afro - killed night five
16. sunfan - killed night two
17. Tokzic
18. YMIA
19. Guest
20. psychoangel - killed by the bookie, day two

alternate: cedolad

remaining players:
V
dance
BDN
kgz
mellon
yoshl
afro
tokzic
ymia
guest

[FoJaR]

it is twilight, no talking in thread please

[FoJaR]

ROLE PMs

you are the wolf team, a team of wolves.

you may only speak to each other during the night phase, and it is now the twilight phase, so NO TALKING.

at night i want ONE of you to send in the wolf kill. only one wolf sends in the kill.

good luck suckers.

YOU ARE A HUMAN

try not to die, oh and you should mostly try and kill wolves

[FoJaR]

ALL ROLES SHOULD NOW BE OUT

if you havent gotten a role yet please PM me and i will correct the situation.

you should get PMs with your first night's dilemma soon.

[FoJaR]

DILEMMA PMs HAVE BEEN SENT OUT

PLEASE LOOK AT THE RULES FOR THE DILEMMA, AS THEY HAVE CHANGED

Twilight will end at 10 AM EST, Saturday Dec 14

[FoJaR]

WAITING ON TOKZIC

if raeko or someone can call him and tell him to do his dilemma that would be great.

[FoJaR]

It is now Night One, wolves may now speak with each other, and anyone with a required night action should send it to me.

Night one ends MONDAY, 10AM EST.

[FoJaR]

Xiz and Clasko are dead. They were both human.

It is now DAY ONE.

day one ends Friday, December 20th, at 10 AM EST.

[dAnceguy117]

wow. assholes. Clasko please join up again next game, if you're interested!



so, 2 humans dead. safe to assume a wolf got a major power and used a vigi kill?

[DarkManticoreX2]

Possible yes, safe to assume no.

We can't assume all the roles we recieve will be super helpful. It's possible some roles could be a hindrance as well.

Case in point: I could imagine a role where if I'm targeted by anyone during the night phase that player dies instead.


Random thought:

Originally Posted by Fojar

at night i want ONE of you to send in the wolf kill. only one wolf sends in the kill.

I think this line points to the possibility of roleblocking wolf kills. I'd bet a jailor/roleblocker role will exist at some point.

[DarkManticoreX2]

Also I desire runescapedude dead untill he apologizes.

Insult my favorite video game characters to my face will you.

[Xiz]

(Dead post)
Ouch. Bye bye.

Also whoever killed the new player night 1 is a dick.

[clasko1000]

(also dead post)
0.o See ya'll next year!

P.S. I hold no grudges.

[dAnceguy117]

Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

Possible yes, safe to assume no.

We can't assume all the roles we recieve will be super helpful. It's possible some roles could be a hindrance as well.

Case in point: I could imagine a role where if I'm targeted by anyone during the night phase that player dies instead.

good point. uhh maybe if a human thinks they might have performed an action which led to one of those 2 humans dying, "claim" that power now? couldn't hurt to know more about what types of powers will be in the game. I think.

Charu I see u

[Charu]

Interesting that the two people that died were people that made accidents of posting before day phase was here. The evidence is gone because someone deleted the posts, but yeah. Wondering if that had any influence on the kills.

Actually, I'm wondering if that's what the wolves want us to think: "That those two were possibly mod killed". Would make sense because they know we only expected one kill and not two.

Or it could be a wolf was partnered up with another wolf. Or it could be a human using something because he doesn't want to lose the power. Maaaaan

[Charu]

Oh hi danceguy, how you doin'?

[Charu]

The more I'm thinking about this, the more I'm leaning toward that this is no way a human killed a human. Something is fishy with those two dying to me.

I'm leaning toward dance's theory that a wolf got a major power. These kills seem way too organized for the possibility of a human getting a power and striking someone randomly. It stinks that the evidence is gone, but I'm positive the wolves are using Mr. Cubone's and Clasko's accidental posts as a means to make it look like the mod killed them.

I think the mod warned Xiz, but I think someone posted after the warning, I really wish I remembered the post order. I didn't think those posts would be important until now.

[FoJaR]

i will announce any modkills as modkills.

[Brilliant Dynamite Neon]

Not that I want to discount the wolf vigi theory, but the modkill thing doesn't make much sense Charu, and I was about to explain before I got ninja'd by the 'JaR.

I'm dealing with the aftermath of my family's water heater breaking and flooding the kitchen, so I might not have much to contrib right now. I have to camp out at their place watching for a guy with replacement water heater at the moment.

As Manti pointed out, there is a distinct possibility that some sort of "Loose Cannon" power exists in the game, that makes a player kill someone who targets it. FoJaR has also mentioned REQUIRED night actions at night start, so it's possible that even if a human got a vigi power, it was compulsive and they HAD to use it.

Tricksy, these mystery games be.

I can think of a couple of initiatives to get some productive discussion rolling this day:
1) If anyone DID recieve a Loose Cannon power, please claim.
2) Report your partner in the thread if you trusted your partner during Twilight and did NOT receive any power; in this way we can narrow down possible betrayers, and thus possible major power holders. Keep in mind that you might still have gotten nothing from a mutual trust, as it's a 50% chance for each.

I'll start: I trusted Vendetta last night and got nothing.

Also, powers that are pretty much guaranteed to be in the game are Vigilante (only reason for there to be an odd number of players at night) and some Masonizing/Neighborizing power (only possibility for other roles to be able to talk during night)

Wish me luck x.x

[Charu]

Wait, I thought discussing this stuff was against the rules? Unless they changed and I didn't read the appended rule sets.