10-21-2009, 05:48 PM | #261 |
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Re: TWG LXXXIX: Simplicity
Yes, a wolf will always want to do things that make him look human, but he's not necessarily going to shoot himself in the foot to appear human. If a wolf has a following of greens who trust him, he is going to keep those people around.
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10-21-2009, 05:51 PM | #262 | |
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Panda has been on my shortlist of potential wolves for a while yet. But honestly, I'd be voting for anyone at this point that I would think would help me not be killed.
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10-21-2009, 06:02 PM | #263 |
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Re: TWG LXXXIX: Simplicity
Its not a shot in the foot if it works and why not wolf greens that support you if you think it'll evade the lynch? The only reason I've avoided voting for you is because a good wolf might forsee that logic and use it to get you lynched, and I wouldn't want to be helping that along.
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10-21-2009, 06:05 PM | #264 | |
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Re: TWG LXXXIX: Simplicity
I want to talk to afro before he ges lynched!
uhhhhh A2P
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10-21-2009, 06:07 PM | #265 |
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Re: TWG LXXXIX: Simplicity
Then get on bloody AIM Manti.
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10-21-2009, 06:11 PM | #266 | |
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The goal of a wolf is to appear human and be trusted. If I'm already trusted and there are a group of greens who think I appear human, why would I want them dead? If my goal is to appear human, I already achieved it in those individuals. Occam's razor. I'd keep people who support me alive as long as possible, because that's the simplest way of achieving the goal of appearing human and being trusted. ps manti, I think I might grab a couple of hours of sleep before work, but I'll be sure and get on meebo tonight at work. Probably around midnight EST.
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10-21-2009, 06:11 PM | #267 | |
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Re: TWG LXXXIX: Simplicity
I'm at work, and I don't dare install aim on the work computer. I'll be home in twenty minutes so go take a warm soapy shower or something.
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10-21-2009, 06:18 PM | #269 | |
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10-21-2009, 08:32 PM | #270 |
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Re: TWG LXXXIX: Simplicity
I finally got around to talk to a couple of persons I wanted to talk to for a while. Out of these discussions, I find A2P the most suspicious. He has yet to take position on anything.
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10-21-2009, 08:37 PM | #271 |
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Re: TWG LXXXIX: Simplicity
I'm relatively neutral to A2P, but still gonna have to go with him over panda regardless.
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10-21-2009, 08:49 PM | #272 |
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Re: TWG LXXXIX: Simplicity
Why are you voting for a2p now? I may be reading too much into this but your first vote was on Panda, but only after someone had previously posted a safety on him. Then, you switch your vote, without much of a reason, at least that I have found, and voted for a2p, but only after two others had placed a vote on him. Care to elaborate for me please?
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10-21-2009, 08:54 PM | #273 | |
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I don't want to be lynched, and I'd rather A2P be lynched.
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10-21-2009, 08:58 PM | #274 |
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Re: TWG LXXXIX: Simplicity
I was just asking for a reason why the change in votes because I have been gone for awhile and am trying to catch up. I just found it odd that both your votes were those that followed in the wake of a different person voting for that same person, but basically your just voting to lynch someone else instead of yourself?
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10-21-2009, 09:01 PM | #275 |
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I thought this was completely obvious.
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10-21-2009, 09:03 PM | #276 |
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I was making sure it was clear, chill out a little. You act like I'm accusing you of something. Just making sure I have everything sorted out and if that means stating the obvious to get an obvious answer, then I'm going to do it.
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10-21-2009, 09:27 PM | #277 |
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woah wait.
Emerald, my position is that I find manti suspicious enough to lynch. Where did you get the idea that I had no stance? When people were voting for afro I gave you a counterpoint on why he shouldn't be lynched. Thoughts? |
10-21-2009, 09:38 PM | #278 |
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[22:29] ルリツ: With Afro, I'm 50/50. The reason that Panda posted is plausable, however, it gutsy beyond reason. [22:30] Clarinet898: true [22:31] ルリツ: The idea of Afro wolfing his human support and then using that logic to prove humanity is (As afro reminded me several times via AIM) unnecessary, however, if it worked it would be well played IMO at least. [22:33] Clarinet898: that's true, but it could also be taken into account that fic ais a good enough player to notice if afro would screw up somehow [22:33] ルリツ: Next is A2P. Emerald basically accused A2P of being active, a yesman and indifferent. A wolf that doesn't want to make enimies. Once again, this is fair, however, the same could be said about U84. Further, thats the same logic we lynched Tupac under if you recall correctly, and the same logic that Afro tried to get Sc lynched under, which doesn't sit well with me. [22:34] ルリツ: Finally Emerald himself, like I said above, he followed similar logic to Afro, and since I'm not sure about Afro, I by extension am not sure about Emerald. Also, his passionate attempt to get afro lynched came from nowhere and was very strong. [22:35] ルリツ: Until he randomly decides to go for A2P. [22:36] ルリツ: I don't understand why his opinion changed so quickly, further, he mentioned "talking to a couple of persons" in his reasons for voting A2P, but when I asked him about it, he didn't even make an attempt to try and mention these people. [22:36] Clarinet898: yeah. i was wondering about that too. he didnt talk to me about it [22:37] ルリツ: And you know what, I should probably have just posted that.
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10-21-2009, 09:41 PM | #279 |
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And the reason why I find manti to be suspicious is because he kept pushing that alliance plan even though all the flaws were pointed out. I know I keep saying that, but it makes me uncomfortable that manti can just be oblivious to the risks.
I know that it's a more likely than not gamble...but there were so many flaws with that plan. A wolf could come to the seered human, or a wolf could IM someone pretending to be the seer, or the psychic's identity could be given away, not to mention the MW possibility. I wouldn't have been suspicious if manti didn't basically say "hey if the humans lose oh well XD!" |
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Re: TWG LXXXIX: Simplicity
As a matter of fact, after discussing it with multiple people, including Emerald, I find him and Afro to be most suspicious. Logs below pretty much sum up the reason.
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