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@dAnce: From 2013+ games, not 2006. I haven't looked back and read the games at the dawn of FFRTWG yet.
You don't owe me anything at all. By signing up to this game, though, you did make a commitment to help your team win. If town, that does usually mean sharing your thoughts and providing your reasoning for em. Quote:
That can't be true. He's definitely contributed enough to have several posts that make you lean him one way or another. If you're null on him, that's fine but a null would mean that the weight of the towny things he's said and the wolfy things he's said are equal in your mind. But to say that nothing he's said at all has looked towny or bothered/made you suspicious at all? Ehhh... @Freezin, I mostly buy your claim. It makes sense to me, as he was really widely townread and in danger of an NK. That doesn't make you town, but it certainly doesn't look bad. @MML I was leaning you town by tone, but you've done/said a couple of things to totally change that for me. Most notably, your posts following the Charu flip, here: Quote:
You did the opposite of this, which is inherently bad (not scummy, just bad). The way you followed up in your reactions and responses to AA, and in your fixation with a garbage push is what started to make me lean you scum. After you and AA's argument ended, Freezin pushed on AA (apparently to prevent AA from entering the nightphase universally scumread) Their resulting argument strengthened you enough to return to your push in a strange post where you said both that AA came out of it looking better than Freezin, but also that you liked Freezin's push and that AA was scummier. Beyond that, your string of recent responses to Freezin is only causing me to strengthen my scumread, but now because of the level of certainty that you have that his push on AA played no part in wolves choices for the NK. Like literally I can't tell if it's a dumbtell or not, because it looks like you're so focused on telling him his plan was "useless" that you don't realize you're contradicting yourself. You say, "Raeko's slot was about as confirmed as AA's was. With Raeko not being as near active as AA was and everyone already reading that slot pure (aside from me) I doubt you did anything close to saving AA". Implying that AA should've been the nightkill because their slots were as clear as each other but he was more active. Then, you follow up with: "It's fucking retarded because wolves likely didn't pass AA up for that. Assuming AA was town and already lived to be scumread, why the FUCK kill him when you have Raeko?". This second part is basically admitting that the reason AA (and me, since we're reaching the present) lived is partially because we "lived to be scumread", hence the kill on Raeko that you're talking about.
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Formatting on that is godawful, but I stepped away from the keyboard in the middle of rereading MML and almost fell asleep, so I figured I should come back and finish so as to not leave an incomplete train of thought overnight.
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IRRELEVENT TO CURRENT GAME:
^for people ISOing in the future Last thing before I sleep: Quote:
I don't want this to sidetrack anything in the current game, so I'll ask that you bring this up in postgame if you disagree, but I resent your implication that I mistimed my claim in that game. Any sooner, and I would've died without that last red result, and any later would have me in the mountains without service (or a claim) til EoD. I'm critical enough of my own game to have outlined my bad plays in the FE postgame thread, and the timing on my claim was not one of them. If you disagree, I would actually love your feedback in postgame on where you think I might've been able to improve. I don't want to let this derail anything ongoing in this game, though, so I won't be responding to anything further along this topic until postgame. G'night all top scum currently MML+DFR
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well.... innocent child could be referred to as a blue kinda. it's a special role, not just vanilla town.
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Reread OP, they're not all dead.
Reread what you quoted, I didn't bring myself into it at all. You can assume whatever you want about me, just be willing to share your thoughts and reasoning, especially when prompted. That's how games get solved. P. S. It's interesting that you quoted those two sections to huff and puff about them, but neatly ignored my point that we're too late in the game for you to honestly think DFR hasn't said/done anything alignment indicative.
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i really haven't been paying attention to dfr tbh. if you want to try to convince me one way or the other, go ahead |
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@dadcop I know IC is colored green in OP, but the role is still blue.
Blue just means PR, and a PR is a role that isn't vanilla. http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Power_Role I think it's colored that way in OP to differentiate PRs with night actions, but IC is still a PR, and therefore blue. Either way, though, if you knew what I meant then what was your intended purpose in initially saying there were no blues?
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[twgv]DFR[twgv] should be the next target.
and lets get back on track to hunting woofs and not to whether or not IC is a blue roll. |
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DFR should be the next target.
and lets get back on track to hunting woofs and not to whether or not IC is a blue roll. |
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I agree that point is irrelevant but why dfr?
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i'm at a party so i'll be inactive until late tonight.
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I got a good (or should I say bad) feeling about dfr and I posted my thoughts about it earlier in thread.
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Now granted I'm not saying I fared better (Oh shit Choof was actually VT) but Town's been wrong so far to the point that I kinda quasi-called AA out on it earlier when he mentioned his pushes ("I won't hold it against you if you don't brag about it"). Meanwhile Raeko is not only in a healthy slot but is inactive and has a habit of going under the radar, chances of anyone actually starting to read her scum or her mislynching enough times for people to get pissed basically do not exist. I get that maybe the more people who scumread AA might make that a sweeter deal for wolves but I'm very doubtful that if one of them thought Charu was a decent target that they'd go for AA next, especially after AA living saw me calling him out on it right off the bat. Although with the setup we have it's likely there was one wolf who entered his name and two that are just too new here to understand what they're doing, but I think that actually makes your plan worse if true. This is, of course, assuming you're telling the truth and not trying to backpeddle. Quote:
2-This doesn't contradict anything assuming you read point 1. Quote:
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I feel that I may not be giving Shado a fair shake because he's in AA's slot and I was pretty sure AA gave me his scumtell.
Add to this that I constantly, constantly misread Shado and we probably get into a fight in every TWG game we've played in aside from Boats and even I think maybe I'm reading him wrong. But you know, of course you think I'm scum for pushing on AA: he's your slot. I find it fitting that the rest of my game looks town to you until your slot comes into it then I'm scum. Even AA would not agree with that (didn't actually, he had me as town. awfully nice of him) |
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