TWG XC: Deja Vu - Page 2

Ruritsu · 10-28-2009, 09:33 AM

Ok, I'm gonna go right ahead and claim Master Wolf, so, you should seer me and then come out N2, no?

Panda Express · 10-28-2009, 09:34 AM

Can we get a sub, amirite?

No wemen in our game!

sc979 · 10-28-2009, 09:41 AM

you speak engrish

Afrobean · 10-28-2009, 09:48 AM

You know, I'm usually in favor of night posting, but maybe night 1 isn't the best time for it.

I know! I should go find the post I made during night 1 of last game. Should be equally relevant and worthwhile here again.

Panda Express · 10-28-2009, 09:56 AM

Do night posts have to be relevent? Or can we talk about how its funny it is one of our players got banned?

Afrobean · 10-28-2009, 10:00 AM

First thing is first. No guardian, so no blues come out unless you've got a death wish. This may seem completely obvious to most of you, but I just want to cover the bases in case our blues end up being patently stupid.

This means no public alliance. No public psychic reveals, no public seer.

No public seer means that if someone comes to you privately and says "I'm the seer and I seer'd you, let's get an alliance going", don't necessarily trust them. It could easily be a wolf trying to get on someone's good side, knowing that their lie likely won't be outed until its too late (possibly postgame). I'd even say that it may be foolish for the actual seer to do this. You'd probably introduce too much doubt in the person you've seer'd and there's always the chance you'd hit the MW and get yourself quietly killed for it. I would suggest that the Seer works privately on a list of seer'd greens and does their best to make sure people who are lynched aren't among them. I don't mean defend people you've seer'd green (that would be tipping your hand), I mean to instead try to get people looking at others. And if you've got any shred of confidence among you, seer, you could well be able to get a seer'd red lynched without revealing yourself to anyone. Apart from that, you could always come out to a seer'd green and reveal who you caught red if you feel it's worth the risk. Just don't come out to anyone UNLESS you have something worth passing on to them, and be aware of the fact that you may be telling all of your secrets to a wolf.

And as a final note, I'd say that if someone says "I'm the seer, I seer'd x and he is a wolf" under the pretense that they're willing to risk their own life in exchange to catch that wolf (not a terrible trade, I'd say), don't necessarily believe that either. A wolf may have been able to identify the seer as dead (such as if the seer reveals himself) and would then be able to play fake seer as much as they like. They could always jsut take a wild guess that the seer is dead or that they won't get caught. Be mindful of places where information can be falsified.

I think that's all I have to say. Just wanted to be sure I got it all out before day 1 hit just in case the wolves decided to go for me rather than manti.

ps final note: don't assume manti is a wolf if he doesn't get killed. If I was a wolf, I'd probably leave him alive and wait for someone to say "he's not been wolfed yet, must mean he is one!" then go along for the ride. Don't be stupid. Then again, no one brought up the fact that manti hadn't been wolfed last game, even among the people who tried to lynch him. Might not be that effective of a tactic to leave someone like manti alive UNLESS the wolf is also willing to pull support from foolish greens, then openly attack manti in the thread. Manti won't be lynched unless you can match his count of sheep, so a wolf would probably have an easier time just wolfing him.

pps I changed a little and added a bit. New content is unitalicized and underlined.

Afrobean · 10-28-2009, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Panda Express

Do night posts have to be relevent? Or can we talk about how its funny it is one of our players got banned?

aww you ruined my double post

But seriously, it's not funny that syhto got banned. She was a major asset to the humans last game and her being killed so early was a heavy deterrent from us being able to pull off a win. In spite of being new to the game, she seems to be heads and shoulders above most other players, and I'd hate to see her taken out (or even replaced) early on.

**DarkManticoreX2** · 10-28-2009, 10:17 AM

Me and my sheep will get you.

BEWARE, THEY'RE FEROCIOUS

**DarkManticoreX2** · 10-28-2009, 11:05 AM

Quite a stance change from last game Afro, Last game you pointed out that I would draw suspicion from simply being alive. What with last game, that will only prove to be more true. Especially if the wolves keep me alive.

Don't understand why you're recommending they wolf me though. Why do you want to see me gone so early Froman?

**Gun92** · 10-28-2009, 11:09 AM

Well that was a fun little read. Human post and what not. Ill be around.

Afrobean · 10-28-2009, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DarkManticoreX2

Quite a stance change from last game Afro, Last game you pointed out that I would draw suspicion from simply being alive.

And, as I noted, that concept didn't turn out to be true. You were "kept alive" and not a single person wanted to lynch you for that reason. This means that the plot of wolves keeping skilled or veteran players alive to kill each other during the day isn't necessarily a good one unless the lynch of the vet can be seeded by a wolf.

I honestly didn't count on last game playing out as it had when I made the post I did then. I was actually just trying to give the wolves a reason to not kill me and other higher profile players with there being no guardian to potentially protect us.

Quote:

Don't understand why you're recommending they wolf me though.

Because I would say that you, like me, should not reach the end of the game. If we're human, we should be wolfed, if we're wolves, we should be lynched.

Last game was just stupid. I'm hoping that in the future (i.e., this game), lesser players will know better than to follow you blindly.

FictionJunction · 10-28-2009, 01:06 PM

hey hey hey, me too!

Panda Express · 10-28-2009, 02:49 PM

So Afro, just an opinion question quick. If according to your theory you can't/shouldn't ever win, why do you enjoy playing?

Afrobean · 10-28-2009, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Panda Express

So Afro, just an opinion question quick. If according to your theory you can't/shouldn't ever win, why do you enjoy playing?

I'll forgive you since you're new, but dying does not equal a loss. If you die and your team wins, it's still a win.

Panda Express · 10-28-2009, 04:07 PM

I seeeee.

I was confused about that because when I first started watching TWG, Roundbox labeled only the people who survived as winners, but I thought that everyone on the team wins. So ... I assumed I was wrong about it. I sowwy for my ignorance, thank you for your humbling grace, Czar Afro.

Viccica · 10-28-2009, 04:58 PM

Who invited the kiss ass?

=p

**freakysnots** · 10-28-2009, 05:12 PM

I'm human.

Also, the new Trillian sucks shit. How do I downgrade?

**freakysnots** · 10-28-2009, 05:33 PM

I just read basically two pages of nothing.

oh and manti, come online so we can discuss who to kill this phase. PM me if i'm not online

Panda Express · 10-28-2009, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Viccica

Who invited the kiss ass?

=p

Quote:

Originally Posted by Myself

Can we get a sub, amirite?

No wemen in our game!

v.2

Also, no one is on friggin AIM to discuss anything. Good freakin' game.

FreezinIce · 10-28-2009, 05:51 PM

The game just started and there's already problems. Thats just super.

10-28-2009, 09:33 AM	#21
Ruritsu FFR Player Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 479	Re: TWG XC: Deja Vu Ok, I'm gonna go right ahead and claim Master Wolf, so, you should seer me and then come out N2, no? __________________ =__=' My sig was 22 pixels too tall, so this is here instead...

10-28-2009, 09:34 AM	#22
Panda Express FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New York Posts: 59	Re: TWG XC: Deja Vu Can we get a sub, amirite? No wemen in our game! __________________ Putting the -laugh- back into Manslaughter.

10-28-2009, 09:41 AM	#23
sc979 FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: New York Posts: 1,644	Re: TWG XC: Deja Vu you speak engrish

10-28-2009, 09:48 AM	#24
Afrobean Admiral in the Red Army Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the moon Age: 36 Posts: 13,262	Re: TWG XC: Deja Vu You know, I'm usually in favor of night posting, but maybe night 1 isn't the best time for it. I know! I should go find the post I made during night 1 of last game. Should be equally relevant and worthwhile here again. __________________

10-28-2009, 09:56 AM	#25
Panda Express FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New York Posts: 59	Re: TWG XC: Deja Vu Do night posts have to be relevent? Or can we talk about how its funny it is one of our players got banned? __________________ Putting the -laugh- back into Manslaughter.

10-28-2009, 10:00 AM	#26
Afrobean Admiral in the Red Army Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: the moon Age: 36 Posts: 13,262	Re: TWG XC: Deja Vu First thing is first. No guardian, so no blues come out unless you've got a death wish. This may seem completely obvious to most of you, but I just want to cover the bases in case our blues end up being patently stupid. This means no public alliance. No public psychic reveals, no public seer. No public seer means that if someone comes to you privately and says "I'm the seer and I seer'd you, let's get an alliance going", don't necessarily trust them. It could easily be a wolf trying to get on someone's good side, knowing that their lie likely won't be outed until its too late (possibly postgame). I'd even say that it may be foolish for the actual seer to do this. You'd probably introduce too much doubt in the person you've seer'd and there's always the chance you'd hit the MW and get yourself quietly killed for it. I would suggest that the Seer works privately on a list of seer'd greens and does their best to make sure people who are lynched aren't among them. I don't mean defend people you've seer'd green (that would be tipping your hand), I mean to instead try to get people looking at others. And if you've got any shred of confidence among you, seer, you could well be able to get a seer'd red lynched without revealing yourself to anyone. Apart from that, you could always come out to a seer'd green and reveal who you caught red if you feel it's worth the risk. Just don't come out to anyone UNLESS you have something worth passing on to them, and be aware of the fact that you may be telling all of your secrets to a wolf. And as a final note, I'd say that if someone says "I'm the seer, I seer'd x and he is a wolf" under the pretense that they're willing to risk their own life in exchange to catch that wolf (not a terrible trade, I'd say), don't necessarily believe that either. A wolf may have been able to identify the seer as dead (such as if the seer reveals himself) and would then be able to play fake seer as much as they like. They could always jsut take a wild guess that the seer is dead or that they won't get caught. Be mindful of places where information can be falsified. I think that's all I have to say. Just wanted to be sure I got it all out before day 1 hit just in case the wolves decided to go for me rather than manti. ps final note: don't assume manti is a wolf if he doesn't get killed. If I was a wolf, I'd probably leave him alive and wait for someone to say "he's not been wolfed yet, must mean he is one!" then go along for the ride. Don't be stupid. Then again, no one brought up the fact that manti hadn't been wolfed last game, even among the people who tried to lynch him. Might not be that effective of a tactic to leave someone like manti alive UNLESS the wolf is also willing to pull support from foolish greens, then openly attack manti in the thread. Manti won't be lynched unless you can match his count of sheep, so a wolf would probably have an easier time just wolfing him. pps I changed a little and added a bit. New content is unitalicized and underlined. __________________

10-28-2009, 11:09 AM	#30
Gun92 The Paragon of Perfection Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 4,826	Re: TWG XC: Deja Vu Well that was a fun little read. Human post and what not. Ill be around.

10-28-2009, 02:49 PM	#33
Panda Express FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New York Posts: 59	Re: TWG XC: Deja Vu So Afro, just an opinion question quick. If according to your theory you can't/shouldn't ever win, why do you enjoy playing? __________________ Putting the -laugh- back into Manslaughter.

10-28-2009, 04:07 PM	#35
Panda Express FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New York Posts: 59	Re: TWG XC: Deja Vu I seeeee. I was confused about that because when I first started watching TWG, Roundbox labeled only the people who survived as winners, but I thought that everyone on the team wins. So ... I assumed I was wrong about it. I sowwy for my ignorance, thank you for your humbling grace, Czar Afro. __________________ Putting the -laugh- back into Manslaughter.

10-28-2009, 05:12 PM	#37
freakysnots 八一 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Xinjiang, PRC Age: 31 Posts: 2,904	Re: TWG XC: Deja Vu I'm human. Also, the new Trillian sucks shit. How do I downgrade? __________________

10-28-2009, 05:33 PM	#38
freakysnots 八一 Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Xinjiang, PRC Age: 31 Posts: 2,904	Re: TWG XC: Deja Vu I just read basically two pages of nothing. oh and manti, come online so we can discuss who to kill this phase. PM me if i'm not online __________________

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