Global Leaderboard v3 Changes

[hi19hi19]

Originally Posted by Velocity

The tags you selected wasn't something that was mentioned during our staff meeting which was a failure on our part. Given that you don't want the file locked behind a token I'll converse with staff about what to do given as a token won't be an option.

For the time being I'll remove mention of the HFF changes from the post.

Thank you for at least considering. If the file is too hard to leave ranked I completely understand that - I'm not blind that it's an incredible outlier.
I was hoping to inspire people to create files to bridge the gap as I am certain someday HFF will be within the top players grasps, but until then, leaving it public at 0 difficulty would be a great compromise.
I know it's objectively not a bad file technically and I personally really enjoy playing and seeing others play it on downrates. I just... want more than a few dozen people to be able to experience it.

[Velocity]

Originally Posted by hi19hi19

Thank you for at least considering. If the file is too hard to leave ranked I completely understand that - I'm not blind that it's an incredible outlier.
I was hoping to inspire people to create files to bridge the gap as I am certain someday HFF will be within the top players grasps, but until then, leaving it public at 0 difficulty would be a great compromise.
I know it's objectively not a bad file technically and I personally really enjoy playing and seeing others play it on downrates. I just... want more than a few dozen people to be able to experience it.

For myself I'd rather the file stay playable as is, as I personally enjoy the file.
It's really just been the difficulty and the boundary breaking nature of it that has been really contentious.

[loftyb]

Won’t be when dump files are added to the game

Edit: Just use one of those subs as D8 token.

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by xXOpkillerXx

If I were you I'd be honored that people went up to me to try and design a novelty file that breaks the barriers of comfort FFR has been constrained to for so long. It's sad to read this from a well known and respected stepartist. While I understand that some people do not like their file being rewards for tokens (and that the batch's checkboxes for release types should be respected), I can't help but feel like it's a good step in the direction of encouraging more top end players to participate on FFR and have their own, non-trivial achievements to go for.

Your file may not have been the greatest 120 there could ever be, but I'd be very damn surprised if even a handful of other stepartists could have managed to pull off a chart of this difficulty that is actually thought through. Kudos to you cornman, and I hope this doesn't deter you from contributing more awesome content to this game.

How do you have so much brain-rot you thought this was a good post, way to completely miss the point.

I do get what Goldstinger is saying, but yeah, the requests on submission should be respected. If I saw a song of mine go into an antipa token, and my request to remove that requirement weren't followed, FFR would be removing it and I'd resub it till it was put in correctly. I don't even want antipa locks off my files. I make this pretty clear.

Originally Posted by gold stinger

The other option is to remove the song completely, which seems like that might be a viable option if the file can't be used as a token.

I feel like that's not even in the ball park, or drug inspired trip of how that should work.

You'd be better off giving it the Legacy check-box, and outside of level ranking.

[ToonE156]

Originally Posted by XelNya

How do you have so much brain-rot you thought this was a good post, way to completely miss the point.

dam that's a bit much, i agree OP did miss the point extremely hard but jesus dude

[icontrolyourworld]

If I may pitch my 2 cents for hi19's map, please be respectful to the preference of keeping his map public

Looking forward to the leader board changes coming up in October, good luck everyone!

[T-Force]

Aight, tone it down. No need for that level of vitriol towards others.

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by ToonE156

dam that's a bit much, i agree OP did miss the point extremely hard but jesus dude

I've said it before, I'll say it again. There's a report button. Use it.

Originally Posted by T-Force

Aight, tone it down. No need for that level of vitriol towards others.

Man, the pillow I sleep on at night is not nearly as soft as you are. And I paid extra for the comfy one.

[T-Force]

Originally Posted by XelNya

I've said it before, I'll say it again. There's a report button. Use it.

Someone already did. Ergo why I made my post.

Originally Posted by XelNya

Man, the pillow I sleep on at night is not nearly as soft as you are. And I paid extra for the comfy one.

Yes, I want to make sure this thread doesn't devolve into name-calling, flame-baiting, and trolling. Perish the thought I put some effort into attempting to curtail it early, amirite?

[ToonE156]

Originally Posted by XelNya

I've said it before, I'll say it again. There's a report button. Use

nah, someone beat me to it and I lazy

Back on topic kinda: o7 to all the people who won't be in D7 or D8 anymore

[Velocity]

After discussing with DCs and considering what they have planned, along with taking into account the new songs weights. Heartbreak Furry Fandom will be staying public at this time and it'll be moved to 130.

In the future when we have more points of reference this will most likely be up for change but for the time being, this separates it out to a much for fitting position.

In addition, ultimately while 120 was chosen as the "cap" on the difficulty scale, there wasn't a lot of songs in that range and reducing the difficulty of files to make the scale fit would be counter productive in the long run. Simply extending the upper range to make a more befitting song difficulty produces the cleanest end result of ranking files without having to give the file a 0 rating, which doesn't apply given the new agreed upon requirements for such a rating.

[xXOpkillerXx]

Originally Posted by Velocity

After discussing with DCs and considering what they have planned, along with taking into account the new songs weights. Heartbreak Furry Fandom will be staying public at this time and it'll be moved to 130.

In the future when we have more points of reference this will most likely be up for change but for the time being, this separates it out to a much for fitting position.

In addition, ultimately while 120 was chosen as the "cap" on the difficulty scale, there wasn't a lot of songs in that range and reducing the difficulty of files to make the scale fit would be counter productive in the long run. Simply extending the upper range to make a more befitting song difficulty produces the cleanest end result of ranking files without having to give the file a 0 rating, which doesn't apply given the new agreed upon requirements for such a rating.

Sounds about right! Great news

[sff_writer_dan]

Originally Posted by Velocity

After discussing with DCs and considering what they have planned, along with taking into account the new songs weights. Heartbreak Furry Fandom will be staying public at this time and it'll be moved to 130.

In the future when we have more points of reference this will most likely be up for change but for the time being, this separates it out to a much for fitting position.

In addition, ultimately while 120 was chosen as the "cap" on the difficulty scale, there wasn't a lot of songs in that range and reducing the difficulty of files to make the scale fit would be counter productive in the long run. Simply extending the upper range to make a more befitting song difficulty produces the cleanest end result of ranking files without having to give the file a 0 rating, which doesn't apply given the new agreed upon requirements for such a rating.

Probably an obvious question, but given that play more did get a "relatively" clean score during a one week tournament window, I assume it was checked what kind of score you'd need to still get high equiv from a song as high as 130?

I know the change where even your best score is <4% of your rank will mitigate that a lot, but even so.

[RenegadeLucien]

play more's HFF score corresponds to a equiv of 83 on a 130 diff file. A 100g score would be a 106.27 equiv.

[Velocity]

Originally Posted by sff_writer_dan

Probably an obvious question, but given that play more did get a "relatively" clean score during a one week tournament window, I assume it was checked what kind of score you'd need to still get high equiv from a song as high as 130?

I know the change where even your best score is <4% of your rank will mitigate that a lot, but even so.

While I don't have a image for a 130, Mattias does have them for a 125, and 140.

[hi19hi19]

Originally Posted by Velocity

After discussing with DCs and considering what they have planned, along with taking into account the new songs weights. Heartbreak Furry Fandom will be staying public at this time and it'll be moved to 130.

In the future when we have more points of reference this will most likely be up for change but for the time being, this separates it out to a much for fitting position.

In addition, ultimately while 120 was chosen as the "cap" on the difficulty scale, there wasn't a lot of songs in that range and reducing the difficulty of files to make the scale fit would be counter productive in the long run. Simply extending the upper range to make a more befitting song difficulty produces the cleanest end result of ranking files without having to give the file a 0 rating, which doesn't apply given the new agreed upon requirements for such a rating.

Excellent news, thank you!
I look forward to seeing what fills the gap in the coming years, and the player skill boosts that come with tackling them.
I await the day someone gets equiv on HFF... I'm sure it will happen eventually!

[BigHayden1]

wheres does that leave the 102+ aaa token

[Velocity]

Originally Posted by BigHayden1

wheres does that leave the 102+ aaa token

Cancelled for the time being.

[ToonE156]

Originally Posted by Velocity

After discussing with DCs and considering what they have planned, along with taking into account the new songs weights. Heartbreak Furry Fandom will be staying public at this time and it'll be moved to 130.

In the future when we have more points of reference this will most likely be up for change but for the time being, this separates it out to a much for fitting position.

In addition, ultimately while 120 was chosen as the "cap" on the difficulty scale, there wasn't a lot of songs in that range and reducing the difficulty of files to make the scale fit would be counter productive in the long run. Simply extending the upper range to make a more befitting song difficulty produces the cleanest end result of ranking files without having to give the file a 0 rating, which doesn't apply given the new agreed upon requirements for such a rating.

HYPEEEEEEEEE

[hi19hi19]

Originally Posted by Velocity

Cancelled for the time being.

I hope someone who wants their file to have that honor can make a banger, it's a good idea for a longterm goal token after all.