Turbo XII: Very Interesting Game - Game Thread

[FreezinIce]

Ok I get it shado your yelling louder than me.

Doesn't make it right

Your read on me calling you out you is what's propping up your scumread on me for 2 going on 3 days. Literally all of your arguements are predicated on that with the exception of your theory of me and lightknight coordinating votes which I've already gave my opinion on.

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by Lightknight924

If you guys think wanna lynch me day 1 and kill me off early two games in a row Im all down for this idgaf

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

Lightknight is a follower of the way of yolo

An acolyte if you will

I have a big problem with this logic from a town's perspective.

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

Your telling me to pick apart his arguements but alot of his points are just opinions.

I was suprising haku didn't get killed because letting a confirmed town into lylo is godawful. I certainly wasn't town reading DFR so leaving him alive would make the most sense from a perspective of net gain for wolves.

His point about not killing DFR is just wifom.

You also ignored that DFR got off me and into lightknight which saved my life and put indheart in danger. Not that I buy much into your coordinating vote theory because ffr forums were lagging like a bitch, to the point where I thought I had died and didn't even see the last few votes which kept me alive. If ffr forums were not spazzing I'm sure indheart would have saw the votes and had time to self pres onto another wagon.

That's my take on events. Nothing is definitive, you have to choose what to believe as town. As much as I'd like to find a flaw in his logic the fact that he's not using logic to argue against me prevents that. It's his take on events vs mine. Mine is simpler and more plausible than his conspiracy theory so I believe that gives me the edge

Yes, some of my arguments are me inferring events based on knowing you're a wolf. As for DFR, he explicitly said he was voting from Freezin/Lightknight and that's that so stop "muddying the waters"

Either way, you're right that that's WIFOM because you could've killed DFR for any other reason. Nice cherrypicking of my arguments though, I don't see you touching the ones based on fact.

For instance, can you explain why lightknight didn't self pres to save himself when it came down to you/him? Can you explain why you jumped off lightknight as soon as another wagon presented itself? Can you explain why you hard defended him and then said he was one of your likely lynchpicks? Can you explain why you were able to get a quote from Egregious miscalculations and not able to fetch my own quotes that you found "scummy", even after you got home? Can you explain why you flipflopped your read on me until we reached F5 and you had no choice but to vote me?

No? Maybe 'cause those are all objective contradictions that expose you

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

Ok I get it shado your yelling louder than me.

Doesn't make it right

Your read on me calling you out you is what's propping up your scumread on me for 2 going on 3 days. Literally all of your arguements are predicated on that with the exception of your theory of me and lightknight coordinating votes which I've already gave my opinion on.

Talk about hyperbole... "literally all" ughhhh you literally don't even try reading my posts, do you?
I'm done with this shit
gonna make a smoothie to cool down a bit
Haku you want me to answer any lingering doubts then tell me now because I'll probably legit shoot myself irl if you do one of those last minute suicide squad tactics

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

legit shoot myself irl if you do one of those last minute suicide squad tactics

I'm still rereading, don't mind me for now.

[ShadoWolfe]

It's like lightknight isn't even bothering to hide his wolfiness lol he's just sitting there viewing thread waiting to hammer me

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

I'm still rereading, don't mind me for now.

kk brb smoothie

[FreezinIce]

I already explained all those points with the exception of one which I'll explain now

I found your quote after i got home. look at my iso.

Its your quote followed by "felt fake"

It's easy to find any quote when I remember exactly what I'm looking for and can search for it under my name.

Everything else has been answered already. Your just not Turing hard enough to find and I'm at work so not going to do the work for you.

I'll be off in like 2 hrs

[Lightknight924]

I'm home writing up some thoughts.

[ShadoWolfe]

I've read your ISO fully and went through it partially at various stages of game.
You say you "found my quote when you got home", but I explicitly mentioned that quote as the only instance of it after you shaded me with "repeatedly chided people", then asked you to get quotes which you said you'd do. You then went home and brought back the same quote I mentioned and nothing else.
"everything else has been answered already" is also a lie. You made one post quoting all my arguments and used it to insult me and tell me I'm tunneling. That's it.

Plus you can't honestly believe I'm not "turing" hard enough to find them if you think I'm a wolf. If you legit thought I was wolf you'd think I'm blatantly lying about you, not just "not searching hars enough to find them".
Even the way you've talked to me through the game has indicated you knew you were talking to town

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by Lightknight924

I'm home writing up some thoughts.

Oh nice this should be good

[AragakiAyase]

Votes from post 1084 to post 1211
Night in 3:42:57
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• Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
• 1 -- ShadoWolfe -- FreezinIce (21)
• 1 -- FreezinIce -- ShadoWolfe (27)
• 5 -- not voting -- Charu (21), Hakulyte (51), Lightknight924 (8)

[FreezinIce]

K sorry town

I'll try when I get home but not going to hold my breath. I'm tired of responding to all of Shado's tiny nitpicks.

This is why I didn't even want to argue with you. It's fruitless because obviously nothing I dig up will be good enough. I'll probably make another big post responding to Shado's most blatant mudslinging but literally I remember answering this points

Also fuck you for making fun of me for typing on dumb ass phone. Fall in a ditch bro

[FreezinIce]

It's obvious at this point he wants it more than me but I will seriously try to effort when I'm off work

So try to hold out till then before making a decision

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

Also fuck you for making fun of me for typing on dumb ass phone. Fall in a ditch bro

Probably the only genuine thing you've written all phase. I wrote that post from my phone while making a smoothie so whatever dude

[Lightknight924]

I'm home, and Haku I dont find any relation between those two quotes on post #1202. If we're wolf teaming together we aren't going to say things back and forth like that.

I agree with Freezin logic actually because shadow's behavior has that erratic sense of "let me prove to you over and over why I'm not a wolf" and there's not much depth to the defense he's giving I feel. Freezin is acting blatant and stone cold from my perspective.

I'm pretty much the most wolfy in everybody's eyes, I got that. So let me list a little pair up between people and see what makes the most sense:

Say Freezin/I are wolves, that makes for a pretty weak wolf team based off of our dialogue throughout the game, and how I was ready to lynch him before. As of right now I see freezin as the most human person this phase, even though his posts have been bothering shadow and charu.

Say Shadow/I are the wolves, that would make for an interesting team because we seem to be halfway at each others throats throughout the phase, but never fully enough to vote each other. Why hasn't anyone called this out yet? Everyone who's been listing who they think is teaming up seem to dance around this idea. Whoever is making wolf pairs so far is intentionally leaving themselves and others out of the mix, and that's what I've been sifting through and looking for.

Say Haku and I are the wolves. Haku sure does seem to hate on me most of the game. He gives me the benefit of the doubt most times, but I'm always on his "why shouldnt I kill you" list. Charu seems pretty pissed about this.

Also wasn't it Charu who said , in post 576,

Originally Posted by Charu

...You're town.

after I had messed up the tags to a vote while drunkenly posting last second at the EoD1? What's up with that? That's a convenient remark to make on someone who doesn't really deserve that remark at the last second for a dumb fuck up. I should have been iced for that alone.

Right now Haku and Charu seem to have a big disagreeance with each other, and shado is going off the wall trying to downplay freezin, but freezin is confident in what he's doing, and I feel like freezin has steadfast logic and is human.

Let's say shadow and Haku, or Shadow and Charu are wolves, and I'm their scapegoat? I'm sitting here dumbfounded at how I'm not dead and still the center of mighty heat all game during the day phases. Myself being able to get away with this random acting/obscure posting is some display for the wolves to use a fodder to twist things around on the humans. So I ask freezin and Charu to look deeep at whats happening here and tell me where you think I stand.

I'm still not ready to vote yet, but I'm feeling pretty hard about shadow. Like too much viagra hard.

[ShadoWolfe]

Originally Posted by FreezinIce

It's obvious at this point he wants it more than me but I will seriously try to effort when I'm off work

So try to hold out till then before making a decision

Yeah, gladly. I'd like to see you try to actually make a case beyond "guts". Maybe it'll be easier to point out inconsistencies there than in you just saying "guts"

[ShadoWolfe]

Like, I wasn't even trying to force a lynch on you this phase, you're the one who made it painfully obvious you're wolf by voting me without me getting instad by anyone else

[Lightknight924]

Hey man I always trust me guts.

[FreezinIce]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

Probably the only genuine thing you've written all phase. I wrote that post from my phone while making a smoothie so whatever dude

Spelling autocorrect on my phone is godawful and so is word predictor