Deep Philosophical Question #1: Would you kill him? - Page 4

Syhto · 12-31-2008, 01:01 AM

The OP should have thought this out better.

But if I had the power to kill one to save 100, I wouldn't do anything. I don't think it's my place to decide. I would possibly if it affected me personally, like loved ones going to be killed, but if it really didn't concern me otherwise I would leave it alone. The 100 you "indirectly" save doesn't make up for the life of the person you took with your own two hands. I don't like having to take on and toy with the fate of others.

Necros140606 · 12-31-2008, 02:11 AM

your a bunch of nationalist crying childrens

Choofers · 12-31-2008, 02:14 AM

And why is this? How can you make a general assumption from people answering a question?

wienerschmidtzel · 12-31-2008, 02:27 AM

I'd cap that mother****er in the head right after he let those 100 people blow up. Think of all the jobs I would help create with the casket making and the mortician and the preachers. Flower shops spring into action for all of those lost. Cops get hired to track me down. We thrive on things going wrong because it's something to do. Plus think of all the potential meals that those people wouldn't eat. That'd be like 1000 cows who produce methane a serious greenhouse gas contributing to global warming which threatens how many humans and animals and blades of grass etc. Why am I wasting my time? Where is this person? I should be killing people right now!

Right and wrong/good and evil are subjective. The answer is whatever you feel like it should be.

**foilman8805** · 12-31-2008, 03:04 AM

I think OP could've made killing the one man have more consequences, because it's kind of obvious what choice you'd pick.

Maybe more people would think otherwise if the scenario was save the 100 people, and kill the man - however you are charged for the crime and tried in a court of law. You face 50 years in jail for voluntary manslaughter.

Choofers · 12-31-2008, 03:42 AM

That would make it obvious that you'd choose to kill the 100.

**foilman8805** · 12-31-2008, 03:45 AM

Well, perhaps you'd get paroled in 25 years or something. I don't know.

It's not my thread, but imo there has to be consequences for killing a human being aside from the guilt.

jewpinthethird · 12-31-2008, 03:52 AM

I don't understand how this thread has over four pages and I still can't make sense of it.

jewpinthethird · 12-31-2008, 03:54 AM

Historically, it is better to kill, than to not kill.

Historically, double post in chit-chat.

**foilman8805** · 12-31-2008, 03:57 AM

Historically, it is better to post, than not to post.

**foilman8805** · 12-31-2008, 03:57 AM

History has a funny way of repeating itself.

OrganisM · 12-31-2008, 04:31 AM

Double-posting is for communists

OrganisM · 12-31-2008, 04:31 AM

Double-posting is for communists

somethingillremember · 12-31-2008, 04:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foilman8805

Well, perhaps you'd get paroled in 25 years or something. I don't know.

It's not my thread, but imo there has to be consequences for killing a human being aside from the guilt.

But isn't that the point? We're dealing with morality here, not laws.

Syhto · 12-31-2008, 08:17 AM

Oh we're talking about guilt? OK then I wouldn't really care either way.

jugglinguy · 12-31-2008, 01:44 PM

I'd kill him because I like to kill people in my free time. I probably wouldn't even know he'd be killing people by the time he's dead.

Patricoo · 01-1-2009, 08:35 PM

Read Kant.

**devonin** · 01-1-2009, 09:05 PM

This exercise was never meant to be approached as a Kantian. All the formulations of the 1/many problem were built to try and prove why utilitarianism wasn't feasible in the real world, because trying to wrangle the sheer volume of modifiers inherant in making such a decision would leave you paralyzed and unable to act.

**foilman8805** · 01-1-2009, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by somethingillremember

But isn't that the point? We're dealing with morality here, not laws.

But that's not a very realistic situation if we're just dealing with morality. If there are no consequences, then **** it. Kill his ass. Enjoy yourself while you're at it too, because all you have to do is live with a very small amount of guilt.

I know you said the situation is hypothetical, but I don't think that should mean you neglect what really would happen if you killed someone. Guilt is not a suitable punishment for this crime even though it was committed with good intentions.

somethingillremember · 01-1-2009, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foilman8805

But that's not a very realistic situation if we're just dealing with morality. If there are no consequences, then **** it. Kill his ass. Enjoy yourself while you're at it too, because all you have to do is live with a very small amount of guilt.

I know you said the situation is hypothetical, but I don't think that should mean you neglect what really would happen if you killed someone. Guilt is not a suitable punishment for this crime even though it was committed with good intentions.

Well, I guess there are two different questions here:
1. Should I do this in regard to the consequences? (Guilt and possible jail time)

2. Is this the right thing to do? (i.e. morality)

In answer to the first, mine would be no. In considering both questions, my answer would again be no. But in answer to the second question...

that's a bit harder.

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foilman8805 smoke wheat hail satin Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: LA baby Age: 35 Posts: 5,704	Re: Deep Philosophical Question #1: Would you kill him? I think OP could've made killing the one man have more consequences, because it's kind of obvious what choice you'd pick. Maybe more people would think otherwise if the scenario was save the 100 people, and kill the man - however you are charged for the crime and tried in a court of law. You face 50 years in jail for voluntary manslaughter. Last edited by foilman8805; 12-31-2008 at 03:27 AM..

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