Ingame Song Information - Page 17

**Tasselfoot** · 12-19-2006, 11:06 AM

palindrome, because of the 32nds, is either a high 3.5 or low 4... haven't put that much thought into which it should be.

ffdfadsdasd · 12-19-2006, 06:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shashakiro

You aren't good enough to know why it shouldn't.

Hmmm, let me guess:

1) Just because its a long song does not mean it is the hardest to pass (obviously)
2) You can button mash the end....?

**Shashakiro** · 12-19-2006, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ffdfadsdasd

Hmmm, let me guess:

1) Just because its a long song does not mean it is the hardest to pass (obviously)
2) You can button mash the end....?

Neither.

Essentially, it's because it contains no long jacks, which are the hardest thing in FFR by an extremely large margin.

ffdfadsdasd · 12-19-2006, 06:56 PM

RunnyMorning should be Masters, not gurus. And HELLBEAT should be in very challenging not master

**Shashakiro** · 12-19-2006, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ffdfadsdasd

RunnyMorning should be Masters, not gurus. And HELLBEAT should be in very challenging not master

Again, you aren't good enough to tell the difference. Those songs are correctly placed where they are.

Passing difficulty is fairly meaningless, since passing any song is easy if you mash.

ffdfadsdasd · 12-19-2006, 07:08 PM

Oh lol sorry about that I was talking about the difficulty to pass them

Fryguy9 · 12-23-2006, 12:43 PM

I was thinking about this the other day, and forgive me as I have not read all 18 pages, but should the coloring of arrows come into play for ranking? Personally, hard levels seem much harder to me when they are not colored, and hard levels that are colored seem easier.

I was reading back a few pages to the CIA Rave vs. Etude debate, and personally, I find Etude much easier. I can see the point Shashakiro brought up about indexing, but the arrow coloring on Etude seems to help me out so much to the point that it makes it easier than CIA Rave. I can imagine that if Etude were all blue arrows, it would be a lot harder.

Meteor858 · 12-23-2006, 02:13 PM

i agree with fry guy... i believe that i could FC CIA rave if the notes were colored... but since they are not it becomes alot easier to misread the notes making me hit the wrong key :-\

**Doug31** · 12-23-2006, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tasselfoot

a 15? lol. out of 6?

but, yea... 1.5, which is what we figured BEFORE the song was even stepped... dore did a good job of meeting what we expected. 14-15, IMO.

I thought it was obvious that I meant 15 on the 1-99 scale, which would imply what it would be on the 1-6 scale, but I'll specify next time. I havn't played any of the other new songs enough to know yet.

kentbball · 12-23-2006, 08:27 PM

Doug's back, whoopee!

**jimerax** · 12-25-2006, 09:09 AM

Added all 12 FFRmas songs.

1. Come With Me - 1.5/6, 15 (321 Notes / BPM 140)
2. Horizon - 3/6, 37 (573 Notes / BPM 126)
3. Kick It - 3.5/6, 41 (588 Notes / BPM 160)
4. Palindrome - 4/6, 48 (437 Notes / BPM 155-165)
5. {Firestorm} - 4/6, 55 (1010 Notes / BPM 130)
6. Classical Insanity - 5/6, 69 (1101 Notes / BPM 175)
7. See You Dance - 2/6, 20 (516 Notes / BPM 140)
8. January's Song - 3/6, 38 (631 Notes / BPM 140)
9. Tension - 4.5/6, 64 (980 Notes / BPM 180)
10. Rottel-da-station - 5.5/6, 79 (1218 Notes / BPM 200)
11. Play It Funky - 3/6, 38 (500 Notes / BPM 131)
12. Carol Megamix - 4.5/6, 62 (1225 Notes / BPM 157)

also fixed some parts, BV is finally removed.

[EDIT] omg.. BV is back!

vengefullangel · 12-29-2006, 09:47 PM

Now, I may just be a newb, but I would think that See You Dance would be somewhat harder than snowflakes.

For one, I can FC Snowflakes but not See You Danced. And also both songs have the same BMP and are within 10 seconds of length of each other, yet See You Dance has about 120 more notes. Just abstractly, it would make sense that See You Dance is more difficult. Either Snowflakes is placed a little too high, or See You Danced is underated a little.

So don't get me wrong. They're placed in the right general level, but if it were my choice I'd place See You Dance at 21 or place Snowflakes lower.

**jimerax** · 12-30-2006, 01:29 AM

added Chaotic Sound on low 4.

SYD is quite the same difficulty as Snowflakes at the point of skill requirement, while SYD is longer and has more notes so I'd move Snowflakes right above SYD.

**Shashakiro** · 12-31-2006, 03:26 PM

Synes moves to 3.5 now IMO.

**jimerax** · 12-31-2006, 06:13 PM

yea degraded Synes to high 3.5, below Green Twilight.

**Shashakiro** · 12-31-2006, 11:58 PM

I have no idea whether this (rose) is a high 4.5 or a low 5.

It's one of those.

**jimerax** · 01-1-2007, 12:13 AM

It's a little hard to judge.
Compared to other 180 song..

Definitely harder than 2003 and Tension.
Carrousel/Dot Death, patterns are easier but needs more continuous speed.
Easier than CI, KYA, Klung.

so low 5 (68) for my first impression.

**Shashakiro** · 01-1-2007, 12:20 AM

It's 183, not 180...there are a few 4-frame jacks.

aight, I'll move back to 10.

**jimerax** · 01-1-2007, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shashakiro

It's 183, not 180...there are a few 4-frame jacks.

aight, I'll move back to 10.

according to the author, BPM is 182.399.

Then described as 182 on this.

**Shashakiro** · 01-1-2007, 01:18 AM

my bad, 182.

12-19-2006, 11:06 AM	#321
Tasselfoot Retired BOSS Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Widget Heaven Age: 40 Posts: 25,184	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 palindrome, because of the 32nds, is either a high 3.5 or low 4... haven't put that much thought into which it should be. __________________ RIP

12-19-2006, 06:56 PM	#324
ffdfadsdasd FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 184	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 RunnyMorning should be Masters, not gurus. And HELLBEAT should be in very challenging not master

12-19-2006, 07:08 PM	#326
ffdfadsdasd FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 184	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 Oh lol sorry about that I was talking about the difficulty to pass them

12-23-2006, 12:43 PM	#327
Fryguy9 FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: NJ, USA Age: 44 Posts: 26	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 I was thinking about this the other day, and forgive me as I have not read all 18 pages, but should the coloring of arrows come into play for ranking? Personally, hard levels seem much harder to me when they are not colored, and hard levels that are colored seem easier. I was reading back a few pages to the CIA Rave vs. Etude debate, and personally, I find Etude much easier. I can see the point Shashakiro brought up about indexing, but the arrow coloring on Etude seems to help me out so much to the point that it makes it easier than CIA Rave. I can imagine that if Etude were all blue arrows, it would be a lot harder. __________________ Last edited by Fryguy9; 12-23-2006 at 01:07 PM..

12-23-2006, 02:13 PM	#328
Meteor858 FFR Supporter! OF DOOM!!! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Earth Age: 30 Posts: 292	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 i agree with fry guy... i believe that i could FC CIA rave if the notes were colored... but since they are not it becomes alot easier to misread the notes making me hit the wrong key :-\ __________________

12-23-2006, 08:27 PM	#330
kentbball FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: New Brunswick, Canada... yes, in snow. Age: 31 Posts: 675	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 Doug's back, whoopee! __________________

12-25-2006, 09:09 AM	#331
jimerax ★_★★^★★ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tokyo Posts: 8,185	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 Added all 12 FFRmas songs. 1. Come With Me - 1.5/6, 15 (321 Notes / BPM 140) 2. Horizon - 3/6, 37 (573 Notes / BPM 126) 3. Kick It - 3.5/6, 41 (588 Notes / BPM 160) 4. Palindrome - 4/6, 48 (437 Notes / BPM 155-165) 5. {Firestorm} - 4/6, 55 (1010 Notes / BPM 130) 6. Classical Insanity - 5/6, 69 (1101 Notes / BPM 175) 7. See You Dance - 2/6, 20 (516 Notes / BPM 140) 8. January's Song - 3/6, 38 (631 Notes / BPM 140) 9. Tension - 4.5/6, 64 (980 Notes / BPM 180) 10. Rottel-da-station - 5.5/6, 79 (1218 Notes / BPM 200) 11. Play It Funky - 3/6, 38 (500 Notes / BPM 131) 12. Carol Megamix - 4.5/6, 62 (1225 Notes / BPM 157) also fixed some parts, BV is finally removed. [EDIT] omg.. BV is back! Last edited by jimerax; 12-28-2006 at 08:15 PM..

12-29-2006, 09:47 PM	#332
vengefullangel FFR Player Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 137	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 Now, I may just be a newb, but I would think that See You Dance would be somewhat harder than snowflakes. For one, I can FC Snowflakes but not See You Danced. And also both songs have the same BMP and are within 10 seconds of length of each other, yet See You Dance has about 120 more notes. Just abstractly, it would make sense that See You Dance is more difficult. Either Snowflakes is placed a little too high, or See You Danced is underated a little. So don't get me wrong. They're placed in the right general level, but if it were my choice I'd place See You Dance at 21 or place Snowflakes lower.

12-30-2006, 01:29 AM	#333
jimerax ★_★★^★★ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tokyo Posts: 8,185	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 added Chaotic Sound on low 4. SYD is quite the same difficulty as Snowflakes at the point of skill requirement, while SYD is longer and has more notes so I'd move Snowflakes right above SYD.

12-31-2006, 06:13 PM	#335
jimerax ★_★★^★★ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tokyo Posts: 8,185	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 yea degraded Synes to high 3.5, below Green Twilight.

01-1-2007, 12:13 AM	#337
jimerax ★_★★^★★ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Tokyo Posts: 8,185	Re: R1 - Actual Song Difficulties V2 It's a little hard to judge. Compared to other 180 song.. Definitely harder than 2003 and Tension. Carrousel/Dot Death, patterns are easier but needs more continuous speed. Easier than CI, KYA, Klung. so low 5 (68) for my first impression.

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