TWG CXXXI - Game of Champions

[FoJaR]

or even better, you could go back and read his posts and decide for yourself......


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[blindreper1179]

I have decided. I just mean more posts from him giving more evidence.

[FictionJunction]

Do it

[FictionJunction]

I want you to

[FictionJunction]

Ok looks like I need to read the thread again

[FictionJunction]

Originally Posted by Vendetta21

okay so let's break this down from a bayesian perspective

there's a 10% chance that zenith was randed on the surface layer

so that leaves in the 90% chance that he wasn't randed a chance that he was figured out. after he died i reviewed the thread and found multiple breadcrumbs that justified his death and made it obvious manti was lock-cleared and it took my like 10 minutes to come to that conclusion.

i literally opened with the fact that manti was cleared. is jrodd downplaying it, really? this sounds like a serving of hot bullshit.

i'm wondering if it's a servign of hot bullshit because you're just too fucking lazy to view the thread or if it's a serving of hot bullshit because you're inept/

Yeah maybe I'm really bad because it didn't jump at me - surely as great twig players you'll notice that what I'm interested in is convenience and if we all publicly admit or claim that we knew that zenith was probably blue before he got killed we're literally prohibiting ourselves from pointing the finger at people who are pushing this idea forward. And perhaps everyone did notice and perhaps that's why he is dead.

All I know is that the player who found out zenith was blue by reading his posts is red and anyone who makes it sound like it was super obvious is trying to maki it difficult to narrow down there people who would've noticed that by claiming everyone could have.

I don't think everyone did. You're downplaying it by saying it was so obvious anyone could have found out. It's basically the only real tangible, touched-and-directly-influenced-by-a-red lead we've got

[FictionJunction]

And you're casting it aside as uninteresting by calling me stupid

[FictionJunction]

Originally Posted by FoJaR

until i read this post, i was thinking "choof, plops, blind"

and then i read this post, and the series of posts before it.

and it struck me.

fiction has a big dick.

not in the metaphorical sense, his penis is actually large.

you are probably thinking "what does this have to do with TWG?"

to which, the answer is: everything.


when you have a large penis, you go for it. every time. because that's what you do. you're a winner with a large penis.

your posts are the posts of a wolf who is going for it, not the posts of a townie who is going for it. which is a problem for you, because i noticed.

fiction

Flattering qualifier but incorrect - we butt heads a lot, recall the RPSG game with TGC? But I'd love to know why you feel my leaning towards the dramatic and condescending is red this time and not uh every other time you've seen it

[FictionJunction]

Originally Posted by FoJaR

i'm here. and i just caught up.

fiction is a wolf.


about one third of his posts are what i would expect from a normal vanilla fiction. another third are placating when a vanilla fiction would be an asshole (v telling him to vote, and fic telling v to tell him who to vote for), and the other third are assholish when a vanilla fiction would be more reasonable.

This is my favorite thing I've read all day thank you

[FictionJunction]

anyway v

[FictionJunction]

I'm not going to bother looking at DBP votes just because I mentioned it would be a good anchor. It was a good anchor. I'm more interested in why jrodd and v are taking the convenient position of saying we all knew zenith was blue instead of the more reasonable approach that maybe a few people probably figured it out and we all found out after the flip.

[FictionJunction]

Originally Posted by j-rodd123

in terms of why I voted DBP, you can read my earlier attacks on him and his entrance. he ended up stating that calling out the 3 names at the beginning were legit wolf leans and i thought that was pretty fake, to me it felt like it was more of a light/jokey entrance and now that he's pressured for voting one of them he needs to pretend to have a logical progression in keeping the wolf read. he also used a lot of second guessing himself in his posts, and it was a waffly tone that pinged me initially. i dont really regret it, his wolf reads of zenith and manti also made me comfortable leaving my vote on him

I guess I'll tackle this real quick - we have an ok player making bad reads and pushing in the right direction. It's d1 where nothing really quite stands out until it stacked against the night kill and d2 actions.

If I push on you it won't be because of this vote because honestly it was as vacant and boring and pointless as that entire phase. If anything it's the people who waggoned who are interesting. But I haven't looked at the order of votes yet.

[FictionJunction]

Should read wrong direction.

[FictionJunction]

Like who cares DBP is dead - he was an obv green who got stacked on for no reason. I'm over it.

[blindreper1179]

Oh ok, I guess no wolves stacked on him, you're right.why bother looking there.

[FictionJunction]

I'll be clear - you're not going to find wolves among the wagoners unless you can pair the wagoning with some other action from d2. I'm not saying there aren't wolves there so stop being dense - I'm saying that it's pointless to silo the voting patterns there and make a call (which is what jrodd is accusing me of not doing. You'd need more. And the 'more' I'm pointing out is whether or not Zenith being blue before he died was obvious to everyone which V and Jrodd continuously shove to the side as an 'obvious' tell everyone should've realized before he died therefore invalidating any suspicions anyone may have about the few wolves who obviously read through zenith.

[FictionJunction]

While V accuses me of overcomplicating I'm accusing him of oversimplifying

[FictionJunction]

Get on my fucking level

[blindreper1179]

You're level sucks, no. Honestly, I missed Z being obvious, and either J/V are wolves pushing it aside, or someone else knew it was obvious and hasn't said so, maybe even have said the opposite (incriminates me I know) is a wolf.

[FictionJunction]

it doesn't matter if everyone claims it was obvious because at that point it's like waggoning on someone - I can only imagine that's the only reason why anyone would casually mention that it was obvious. V's move to invalidate the idea that it is entirely possible that it wasn't obvious to everyone is protective and the fact he did it while calling me an idiot for not agreeing is a power play aimed to increase his authority in the thread.