03-18-2008, 11:40 AM | #2261 | |
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Also: I never played Mario Kart very seriously, so I don't know if I've ever actually done this slide speed boost, although, at the same time, I don't believe I ever had a particularly hard time beating the computer. Does this work automatically or what? ps I just realized how absurd it would be to swerve using the steering wheel shaped apparatus. It's one thing to move the control stick from side to side to abuse an oversight of an intended feature, but to literally move your hands in the same way you would in a real vehicle... that would be crazy looking.
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03-20-2008, 01:36 AM | #2262 | |
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So there's my relevant comment. *sinks back into lurking shadows*
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03-20-2008, 01:45 AM | #2263 |
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A video showing gameplay for Mario Kart says that, for whatever reason, you cannot drive bus-driver style. You must drive car-style.
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03-20-2008, 04:20 AM | #2264 | |
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2) If you can't beat them, join them. Basically, what you want, is to take out something that requires skill (snaking), and give more weight to pure luck (items). What's the fun if you're obviously the best racer, but get hit by 2000 blue shells just before the finish? At least, when you're both snaking, you know you've been beaten by someone more skilled than you. 3) The max speed also applies to mini boosts. A 1/5 kart will have a slower boost than a 5/5 kart. This is why, on different courses, top MKDS players will use different karts, to have the best handling(and acceleration) vs. speed for that particular course. Otherwise, every world record would have been achieved with Dry Bones + Dry Bomber. But no, people are using the Yoshi Egg, and the Poltergust more and more, even though they have worse handling. |
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03-20-2008, 04:34 AM | #2265 |
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03-20-2008, 04:45 AM | #2266 | |
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Personally, I start regularly, but as soon as I see someone snaking, there's nothing that stops me from doing it as well (and in 90% of the cases, beat him). |
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03-20-2008, 05:41 AM | #2267 |
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How can you defend against it?
Items? Sorry. To fast to do that. Not hitting things? Sorry, he's still faster. Power slide every corner? He's got you beat. Oh.. you mean by snaking too. Yeah. What about those people who suck and don't know how to snake and people snake past them anyway just to win and gloat? Do you call that skill for beating them? |
03-20-2008, 12:19 PM | #2268 |
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Yeah because I see 2,000 blue shells in a single race, let alone a single Cup match.
I think the record for number of times I've seen a blue shell hit me while I was in first place during a 16-race match in Mario Kart: Double Dash was two. And I still won both of those races. The blue shell is also a bomb, so I slowed down to make it hit 2nd place (the AI has that cheap catch-up when you're playing alone) and we both ate it. You're one of those "items are luck" people. You have no hope. Items are part of Mario Kart, just like they're part of Super Smash Bros. They're not a factor of luck. There's an immense amount of skill involved. If it were luck, you wouldn't have to aim items or even know what they are. You just park your car on a respawning item box and use it over and over again, and you win the race! Right? Just like in Poker where you get dealt two aces every hand. You'll always win! Right? Snaking doesn't require skill. Snaking requires a huge ego that must always win online games against random people for no reason, even if it means going outside the parameters of the game. Oh, and a thumb with callouses. |
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Further, of course items are a factor of luck. Because otherwise, every item would be equally strong. 3 red shells >>>>> 1 banana. And the equation you used is eh... bad. Of course you still have to hold the A button to move accellerate, it's still a racer. Of course snaking requires skill, otherwise everyone would be able to do it, and everyone would be good at it. In fact, PRB snaking in MKDS requires even more skill. |
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And the "wah, the game is too hard if we don't have this nonsensical unintended tactic". Remember: if the CPU doesn't do it on the hardest difficulty setting, it almost certainly was not an intended feature. Quote:
And who cares if it requires skill WHEN IT MAKES NO SENSE. How would you feel if they made reversing go faster than forward as an intended feature to make recovering from mistakes easier, then other people abused it by reversing through the entire map? Would you really expect the next installment of the game to not do anything about the problem of people abusing it? Like, ok, it's one thing to embrace the tactic when it's needed just to get by in online play, but to be mad about this problem being fixed is just stupid. It's OBVIOUSLY been proven an unintended feature. I don't care if you think they secretly put it in and didn't mention it in the manual and also didn't program the AI to use it, because guess what. With them officially making it impossible in the Wii game, they're saying in as few words that they had not intended this in the previous games. The same can be said of wave dashing in Melee; unintended feature is proven to be unintended in that it is removed in the most recent version of the game. Quote:
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03-20-2008, 04:04 PM | #2271 | |
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Yes, red shells are better than bananas... unless you're in first place. Red shells are meaningless in first place (in Double Dash, at least, since you can't drop reds behind you in Double Dash). In fact, groups of 3 green shells are meaningless too. The only useful item you can get in first place is one green shell and bananas. Red shells are also meaningless if you're in 2nd place and first place is snaking half the course ahead of you. Bananas help there again. Pop one in the middle of the track and bam! They have to either not snake right there, snake around it and muck with the trick for half a second, or hit it. Yes, snaking requires "skill". So does racing for real. You know how proud I felt when I beat Mirror Grand Prix on Double Dash? It was so hard I couldn't even get first on every race with a friend. It's not easy! I bet if I snaked, I'd've won every race. Where's the fun in that? I felt a sense of accomplishment when I won for real. You can't replicate that with snaking. |
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03-21-2008, 06:08 AM | #2272 | |
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@Squeek: You're forgetting that 3 shells of any kind in MK64 helps you to protect from items. You can hold 1 shell behind you and keep Z pressed until someone hits it with a red shell, or you could just press Z once, and have 3 shells going around you like a shield. I surely find the latter to be more easy, and it's really a matter of pure luck which one you get. |
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03-22-2008, 01:58 PM | #2275 | |
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03-22-2008, 04:42 PM | #2276 | |
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Because Nintendo's official stance on the matter is now that it's an unintended exploit of the game's mechanics and has removed it from play in the most recent version. Honestly, it doesn't matter what you think about it. Heck, it doesn't even matter what I think about it. Nintendo has spoken. You're not supposed to be able to do it; end of story.
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03-24-2008, 07:56 AM | #2277 | |
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HAY GUYS I SNAKE
IS THIS BAD Y/N
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04-30-2008, 12:45 AM | #2278 |
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Snake is in Brawl now!
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04-30-2008, 01:26 AM | #2279 |
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Does this mean I can wave dash in Mario Kart Wii then?
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04-30-2008, 01:52 PM | #2280 |
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After much arguing with Squeek on the matter I finally picked up my Wii with Brawl on Friday and I finally got all the characters unlocked. I'm not going online yet because I am just like that. :P
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