TWG CLXIV: Classics Man - Game Thread

[Hakulyte]

@Xel

You still never answered #1193 btw

[MixMasterLar]

Ninja by Haku


.........yeah idk about that cover claim, bub

[Hakulyte]

wow, I'm tired. I asked this before. Going to sleep.

[Hakulyte]

Xel posted: #1194

I think the idea was to SHC, but with the Vigi. I'm just tired. I already answered that.

[Hakulyte]

Basically we both had a pointless interaction about the Vigi.

It could potentially give clues about what the real Vigi should have done during D0 night.

In the end, not much came out of this.

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

@Xel

You still never answered #1193 btw

I can answer you finally

no

[XelNya]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Basically we both had a pointless interaction about the Vigi.

It could potentially give clues about what the real Vigi should have done during D0 night.

In the end, not much came out of this.

Admittedly I failed to do the thing I ought to have done which was advocate witch not die

and I should get lynched and mauled in postgame for it

[Hakulyte]

Originally Posted by AragakiAyase

lolhaku

charu was being scumread by basically no one, mellon was being scumread by a few people, it's not hard

ofc we could be wrong and vigi killed charu and wolves killed mellon, but if that's the case then lolvigi and lolwolves

Originally Posted by Witch of Certainty

I'm not sure what's so confusing about them? I really doubt wolves kill mellon for the reason I then guess the vig did; she wasn't doing anything that helpful and keeping her around gives the wolves a potential mislynch option. As for why a Charu wolfkill...I think even I could make a couple guesses lol

Originally Posted by Xel's wall #2798 [Witch]

This tone suggests you know one of the people who died was going to die. Mellon was certainly not doing "nothing" as far as I recall, and you also speak like it's fine for the vigi to shoot a town whom is unhelpful instead of a scum-leaned target of general town, such as myself.

Keeping that for myself and for post game. It's one of the things that confused me overall.

[Prophylaxis]

Catching up and rereading, but to be honest, the Witch vig flip kind of destroyed my motivation to play the game since I think there is a solid chance we lose the game now unless we lynch scum right after the other.

It's just. I have NO IDEA who the scum are. There are still three wolves alive and aside from Xel no one stands out to me as explicitly wolfy.

Like, given that Witch flipped town and AA flipped town, I don't think my view of the gamestate is terribly off, but we have had NO WOLF FLIPS SO FAR and I /need/ those in order to actually scumhunt well. This is terribly frustrating because, wagon analysis is shot, and interaction analysis is shot - there goes 2/3rds of my way to analyze the gamestate, leaving only behavioral analysis which I am not very good at.

Blegh.

[Prophylaxis]

Originally Posted by inDheart

Votes from post 2126 to post 3114
It is night
---

• Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
• 4 -- Witch of Certainty -- MixMasterLar (36), TWG Jade Harley (84), AragakiAyase (185), ShadoWolfe (175)
• 3 -- ShadoWolfe -- thesunfan (142), XelNya (28), Wineandbread (15)
• 2 -- XelNya -- Prophylaxis (41), Witch of Certainty (65)
• 1 -- unvote -- Hakulyte (199)

Originally Posted by inDheart

shado (4) - sunfan, aa, xel, wab
xel (3) - proph, shado, woc
woc (2) - mml, jade
unvote - haku

:00 good :01 bad

Originally Posted by inDheart

Votes from post 5 to post 2119
It is night
---

• Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
• 4 -- DaBackpack -- roundbox (67), thesunfan (260), XelNya (94), AragakiAyase (263)
• 3 -- Witch of Certainty -- TWG Jade Harley (77), mellonxcollie (76), Hakulyte (272)
• 2 -- Prophylaxis -- Charu (313), ShadoWolfe (248)
• 2 -- TWG Jade Harley -- Prophylaxis (75), Witch of Certainty (94)
• 1 -- thesunfan -- MixMasterLar (131)
• 1 -- Charu -- DaBackpack (128)

give me a few minutes to recheck, please

Originally Posted by inDheart

Votes from post 5 to post 1691
Night in 2:14:41
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• Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
• 4 -- thesunfan -- AragakiAyase (209), Charu (234), Hakulyte (240), Prophylaxis (47)
• 1 -- mellonxcollie -- ShadoWolfe (217)
• 1 -- XelNya -- TWG Jade Harley (53)
• 1 -- Charu -- DaBackpack (128)
• 1 -- DaBackpack -- thesunfan (171)
• 3 -- unvote -- Witch of Certainty (68), MixMasterLar (123), XelNya (86)
• 2 -- not voting -- mellonxcollie (61), roundbox (44)

Originally Posted by inDheart

Votes from post 5 to post 640
Night in 31:48:12
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• Votes -- Lynch -- Voters
• 4 -- TWG Jade Harley -- MixMasterLar (67), Charu (147), AragakiAyase (44), Prophylaxis (14)
• 1 -- XelNya -- thesunfan (50)
• 1 -- Prophylaxis -- ShadoWolfe (79)
• 1 -- Hakulyte -- Hakulyte (56)
• 6 -- not voting -- DaBackpack (77), mellonxcollie (9), roundbox (33), TWG Jade Harley (18), Witch of Certainty (19), XelNya (22)

Time to ask myself, are four man wagons viable for wagon analysis this late in the game?

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by XelNya

Also greg let me ask you

Were we on the same page because i thought witch was the vigi thus my flop and omitting to talk about them.

I thought some people would take the hint

If that makes sense

nah, I wasn't on the same page
good read on your part tho

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by Hakulyte

Yeah, Sunfan was weird with the wording here.

I don't really think I was

I have thought shado was a wolf for a while, but I'm stepping back on him rn

I'll have a list out later

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by Wineandbread

I refer to your post that I quoted in http://www.flashflashrevolution.com/...postcount=2994
You're basically saying that it's not bad manner for Haku cause he's 'weird'?

I don't want to really drag this point out cause it's not really relevant to the game, I was just interested that you defended him after saying this to me
I think I'm just peeved at what happened at eod

I get where you're coming from, and the short and serious answer is that Hakulyte is the exception to a lot of rules in my book

[Prophylaxis]

4 -- Witch of Certainty -- MixMasterLar (36), TWG Jade Harley (84), AragakiAyase (185), ShadoWolfe (175)
3 -- ShadoWolfe -- thesunfan (142), XelNya (28), Wineandbread (15)
2 -- XelNya -- Prophylaxis (41), Witch of Certainty (65)
1 -- unvote -- Hakulyte (199)

shado (4) - sunfan, aa, xel, wab
xel (3) - proph, shado, woc
woc (2) - mml, jade
unvote - haku

4 -- DaBackpack -- roundbox (67), thesunfan (260), XelNya (94), AragakiAyase (263)
3 -- Witch of Certainty -- TWG Jade Harley (77), mellonxcollie (76), Hakulyte (272)
2 -- Prophylaxis -- Charu (313), ShadoWolfe (248)
2 -- TWG Jade Harley -- Prophylaxis (75), Witch of Certainty (94)
1 -- thesunfan -- MixMasterLar (131)
1 -- Charu -- DaBackpack (128)

4 -- thesunfan -- AragakiAyase (209), Charu (234), Hakulyte (240), Prophylaxis (47)
1 -- mellonxcollie -- ShadoWolfe (217)
1 -- XelNya -- TWG Jade Harley (53)
1 -- Charu -- DaBackpack (128)
1 -- DaBackpack -- thesunfan (171)
3 -- unvote -- Witch of Certainty (68), MixMasterLar (123), XelNya (86)
2 -- not voting -- mellonxcollie (61), roundbox (44)

4 -- TWG Jade Harley -- MixMasterLar (67), Charu (147), AragakiAyase (44), Prophylaxis (14)
1 -- XelNya -- thesunfan (50)
1 -- Prophylaxis -- ShadoWolfe (79)
1 -- Hakulyte -- Hakulyte (56)
6 -- not voting -- DaBackpack (77), mellonxcollie (9), roundbox (33), TWG Jade Harley (18), Witch of Certainty (19), XelNya (22)

[thesunfan]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

I want to say sunfan's scum, but I have no idea what he's doing if he is. We're at MYLO. I feel like scumfan could just push for a lynch on me and the game would be over, so his posts today confuse me and make me hesitate in reading him.
I think Xel is almost always a wolf here. I'd vote him now, but I'd feel a lot more comfortable voting at EoD to prevent a wolfjack of my wagon if I'm wrong.

ya if you're town and I'm a wolf I'd bet another dollar I could powerwolf you down here

I'm just town, friend

[thesunfan]

ya missed a few colors there bud but otherwise thanks for doing the lord's work (trademark)

[Prophylaxis]

Questions I am asking myself:

1. Is there scum on the Witch wagon Yesterday? If so, who is it? What about Shado's alignment?

2. We /know/ for a fact that EoD1 was basically a feasting ground for the wolves - town/town/town wagons. Therefore, scum in {roundbox (67), thesunfan (260), XelNya, TWG Jade Harley (77), Hakulyte (272)} is /incredibly/ likely. Just, who is town in that grouping and who is scum?

3. Haku is either the scum on the sunfan wagon or the sunfan wagon is composed of all townies, which maybe makes sunfan scum?

3. Ditto with Jade. MML is either scum or wagon is composed of all townies?

Food for thought here. I have never tried wagon analysis on this site so I have no idea how good it is, but meh.

I'm kind of at {Xel/Jade/????} here solely because Jade looks like scum from wagon analysis.

[Prophylaxis]

Originally Posted by thesunfan

ya missed a few colors there bud but otherwise thanks for doing the lord's work (trademark)

What are your thoughts? I'm especially interested to hear what you think of the town/town/town wagons D1 (obviously you guys don't know I'm town but yeah).

I wish I could edit those colors in, lol.

[Prophylaxis]

Originally Posted by ShadoWolfe

I really want to say scumteam is Xel/Jade/xx(MML, sunfan? Proph??), but one of Xel's posts really threw me off on this

Shado's view of the gamestate feels similar to mine.

I dunno. I really want to trust AA especially given that he flipped town. But some of Shado's posts remind me of myself when I get pressured at times. ??

If I could have like a random cop check on any player I'd check Shado since if I know his alignment I think I could solve the game, but we're in my/lylo now.

[thesunfan]

god my wagon looks terribly townie LOL