What happens when you die? - Page 2

Anonymous · 05-29-2004, 11:37 PM

Sigh

I know we are all critical thinkers here. I know we all like to feel that if it is fed to us, we will be able to understand. But as humans, there are just certain ideas I don't think we can conceive.

We cannot grasp the nightmare, the grinding dark abyss that is hell, so why keep trying? We cannot begin to think of the paradise that is heaven, nor the endless depths of eternity, nor even our infinitely small place in the universe.

The most important thing for everyone is to find a definite belief. Do your research. Be open-minded and start mainstream, then do more research and mind answers to those more puzzling problems. I think that if the homework is done right, you would end up looking toward Christianity. But of course many of you would think that I said that only because I'm a Christian. You'd just have to find out, wouldn't you?

Now, I think that the "infinite" realm in which we live in is the only place with time. Places like Heaven are simply part of another realm that has nothing to do with our time. So if in fact our universe is a giant circle, those outside can see the whole thing as "is." That is just simply impossible to truly imagine.

Death is not an end at all. We are just going to be yanked out of the whole time-space continuum deal we are so used to here. What you will find after that?...

...Well, you certainly can't expect to find all the answers on an internet forum. That's about as sound as it gets.

I left a few flaws. Go ahead and attack them. If you really want to.

TheTypist · 05-29-2004, 11:38 PM

They time you out too quickly. That last one was mine.

Anonymous · 05-31-2004, 12:43 PM

aleco, you put a lot of faith into something you have very little knowlage about. your mentality scares me.

to me HAMLET said it best "the undscoverd country from whose bourn no traveler returns."

we cannot know what happens when we die.

perhaps you will go into a loop pattern like a computer and keep re-living your life, with that thought though. who is to say that you are not already dead?

another possibility is that nothing will happen. this is neather good nor bad, it just ends. it is like sleep, you dont remember most of it. time just passes, thats all. do you fear sleep?

third possibility, holy redemption. heaven, hell, purgatory, rebirth, whatever you believe in.

IronMonk · 05-31-2004, 12:45 PM

Anonymous · 05-31-2004, 04:06 PM

Hm. Maybe we should ask someone who died? Seriously, think about it.

CalibreneGuru · 05-31-2004, 04:07 PM

^was me

Verruckter · 05-31-2004, 04:13 PM

Everbody who already "died" say that they where going upwards, to "heaven", or that they seen the movie of their life. I think thats a stupid idea.

Sorry.

CalibreneGuru · 05-31-2004, 04:16 PM

You talking about people who have been dead but were pulled back to life?

aleco · 05-31-2004, 05:20 PM

The emphasis on knowledge I think has grown a bit too much in society. Why should we fear the unknown?

Also: it can't just be nothing- When most people die, they have facial expressions as if they see something beyond that scares are delights them-such as my grandpa. You may not agree, blah blah etc....... But I can tell

Verruckter · 05-31-2004, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CalibreneGuru

You talking about people who have been dead but were pulled back to life?

Yes. I don't beleive in talking to dead people...while they are dead!

GuidoHunter · 05-31-2004, 08:23 PM

Yes, we cannot know for certain what happens after we die, but what's wrong with believing one certain way and having faith in that conviction? It's not going to matter who was right after death. There's nothing wrong with believing in a result so strongly that you are willing to devote your life to it because it's just as possible as any other result (I hope the pronouns are clear enough in that sentence).

What I'm trying to say is that religion, with respect to the afterlife, is just as worthwhile as not believing anything. It may just take a little bit more work.

And what's wrong with fearing death? If heaven isn't an option for you or anybody, then death really sucks. I can understand how it's something to be feared; it's the end of life, which is awesome.

--Guido

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Verruckter · 05-31-2004, 08:44 PM

I would say that most people are not afraid of dying, but of seeing their freinds or family die. But thats not tthe subject of this thread.

I think that whatever is after death, it sure is better than life. Anyways, this thread is just a bunch of useless opinions, and living beings will propably never know what is after death.

RajginKisaragi · 06-1-2004, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anonymous

aleco, you put a lot of faith into something you have very little knowlage about. your mentality scares me.

Ditto.

nickishere · 06-9-2004, 07:08 PM

Well i guess it doesn't really matter what happens when you die...I mean why should you care? Your dead you can't do anything for the world and its people. All I'm saying is that you should just live your life to the fullest, and not think or worry about something like that. Just live your life everyday like it was your last because it could all end in an instant.....

Salchite · 06-9-2004, 07:27 PM

I never really bought any religion even though most kids around me were hand fed the cristian religion and easily accepted it. From a young age i noticed things not really believable in the bible. I won't list them but they did make me seriously doubt any of it. I realized the bible wasn't truths, only half truths and twisted events. Like the greek myths, or native american stories. Just ways to explain things not understood at the time.

Back to the topic though, I don't believe in heaven or hell or any kind of unified afterlife that has a few possibilities. Instead i believe that death is just another step in existance and that we go on to the next life. May it be on earth or not i do not know only that there is a reason for all of these lives. Mabey our "spirits" gain knowledge and understanding of life through many perspectives of life. I do know that i don't remember anything of past lives and mabey when you die there is some sort of spirit plane in which you do remember everything. Then when your new life begins you forget again and so it goes on forever.

Aybabtu · 06-11-2004, 07:11 AM

This is often a subject I find myself wondering about before I drift to sleep some nights, and you know what, I fear death. Well maybe not death it self but the uncertainty it brings. No one really knows what happens after you die. People have told me I am afraid because I do not follow any particular religion, but in fact I do believe in a higher being. There is just that chance that religion was made up by some of the most creative story tellers ever and all I believed in will be a fabrication. I think some people are actually scared into believing in higher beings so if it is true they will not be sent to hell or what not.

I would hope to be re-united with loved one and friends in a place where time would not exist and you could stay as long as you wanted. You could return to existence and live another life time and at each death when you got to wherever you would have even more loved ones and friends to be with.

That is what I think of this whole death thing, but that could change with age and experiences.. I have plenty of time to spend here and I won't let this hold me back from living.

Aybabtu

RajginKisaragi · 06-11-2004, 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nickishere

Well i guess it doesn't really matter what happens when you die...I mean why should you care? Your dead you can't do anything for the world and its people. All I'm saying is that you should just live your life to the fullest, and not think or worry about something like that. Just live your life everyday like it was your last because it could all end in an instant.....

Who said we were worried about death? I just like to sit around and think about stuff that hasn't been proven yet. You know, to make my own theories that make sence to me. Like this topic for instance.

LEGO · 06-14-2004, 05:03 PM

I have a quick question for those believers in Heaven and Hell. It's not meant to be an accusation; just something I wondered.

Why is Satan/Lucifer doing what God wants him to do (torture the bad people)?

If Satan was against God (aren't they opposites or something?) then wouldn't he want to do what God doesn't want him to do?

My idea of heaven is a place where you're only your spirit, no body, floating aimlessly and effortlessly where you please, while you are surrounded by all your family and friends who have passed away as well. I envision this place to be cosmic or on a different plane than simply a bed of clouds like many heavens are depicted as. The most key thing in my heaven is a freedom of want and desire; everyone is content.

**talisman** · 06-14-2004, 06:52 PM

Oblivion appeals to the rational in me.

But seriously, I'd rather lie to myself and happily hustle off to the grave than dread the day I die.

Unfortunately I've never been religious, so even if there is a heaven, I'm guessing I'll be fucked.

**Jello** · 06-15-2004, 01:47 PM

dont worry about it too much... you were dead up to this point, and you will die in about 80 years or so... if you went that long without being alive, whats the rest of eternity? (im someone who thinks about death more then like everyone... but even though im searching for an answer , thats the best way to look at it for now)

- Jello

05-31-2004, 12:45 PM	#24
IronMonk FFR Player Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 155	^ me __________________ Towles may be harmfull when swallowed in large quantities

05-31-2004, 04:13 PM	#27
Verruckter FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Canada, with the cool people! Posts: 2,707	Everbody who already "died" say that they where going upwards, to "heaven", or that they seen the movie of their life. I think thats a stupid idea. Sorry. __________________ Truth lies in loneliness, When hope is long gone by -Blind Guardian, The Soulforged Image removed for size violation.

05-31-2004, 05:20 PM	#29
aleco FFR Player Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: I am where I am Posts: 1,054	The emphasis on knowledge I think has grown a bit too much in society. Why should we fear the unknown? Also: it can't just be nothing- When most people die, they have facial expressions as if they see something beyond that scares are delights them-such as my grandpa. You may not agree, blah blah etc....... But I can tell __________________ I still exist...

05-31-2004, 08:44 PM	#32
Verruckter FFR Player Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Canada, with the cool people! Posts: 2,707	I would say that most people are not afraid of dying, but of seeing their freinds or family die. But thats not tthe subject of this thread. I think that whatever is after death, it sure is better than life. Anyways, this thread is just a bunch of useless opinions, and living beings will propably never know what is after death. __________________ Truth lies in loneliness, When hope is long gone by -Blind Guardian, The Soulforged Image removed for size violation.

06-9-2004, 07:08 PM	#34
nickishere FFR Player Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Douglasville, Georiga Age: 35 Posts: 15	Well i guess it doesn't really matter what happens when you die...I mean why should you care? Your dead you can't do anything for the world and its people. All I'm saying is that you should just live your life to the fullest, and not think or worry about something like that. Just live your life everyday like it was your last because it could all end in an instant..... __________________ Aristotle: Moral excellence comes about as a result of habit. We become just by doing just acts, temperate by doing temperate acts, brave by doing brave acts.

05-29-2004, 11:37 PM	#21
Anonymous FFR Player Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,088	Sigh I know we are all critical thinkers here. I know we all like to feel that if it is fed to us, we will be able to understand. But as humans, there are just certain ideas I don't think we can conceive. We cannot grasp the nightmare, the grinding dark abyss that is hell, so why keep trying? We cannot begin to think of the paradise that is heaven, nor the endless depths of eternity, nor even our infinitely small place in the universe. The most important thing for everyone is to find a definite belief. Do your research. Be open-minded and start mainstream, then do more research and mind answers to those more puzzling problems. I think that if the homework is done right, you would end up looking toward Christianity. But of course many of you would think that I said that only because I'm a Christian. You'd just have to find out, wouldn't you? Now, I think that the "infinite" realm in which we live in is the only place with time. Places like Heaven are simply part of another realm that has nothing to do with our time. So if in fact our universe is a giant circle, those outside can see the whole thing as "is." That is just simply impossible to truly imagine. Death is not an end at all. We are just going to be yanked out of the whole time-space continuum deal we are so used to here. What you will find after that?... ...Well, you certainly can't expect to find all the answers on an internet forum. That's about as sound as it gets. I left a few flaws. Go ahead and attack them. If you really want to.

05-29-2004, 11:38 PM	#22
TheTypist FFR Player Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 126	They time you out too quickly. That last one was mine.

05-31-2004, 12:43 PM	#23
Anonymous FFR Player Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,088	aleco, you put a lot of faith into something you have very little knowlage about. your mentality scares me. to me HAMLET said it best "the undscoverd country from whose bourn no traveler returns." we cannot know what happens when we die. perhaps you will go into a loop pattern like a computer and keep re-living your life, with that thought though. who is to say that you are not already dead? another possibility is that nothing will happen. this is neather good nor bad, it just ends. it is like sleep, you dont remember most of it. time just passes, thats all. do you fear sleep? third possibility, holy redemption. heaven, hell, purgatory, rebirth, whatever you believe in.

05-31-2004, 04:06 PM	#25
Anonymous FFR Player Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,088	Hm. Maybe we should ask someone who died? Seriously, think about it.

05-31-2004, 04:07 PM	#26
CalibreneGuru FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 108	^was me

05-31-2004, 04:16 PM	#28
CalibreneGuru FFR Player Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 108	You talking about people who have been dead but were pulled back to life?

06-9-2004, 07:27 PM	#35
Salchite FFR Player Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 4	I never really bought any religion even though most kids around me were hand fed the cristian religion and easily accepted it. From a young age i noticed things not really believable in the bible. I won't list them but they did make me seriously doubt any of it. I realized the bible wasn't truths, only half truths and twisted events. Like the greek myths, or native american stories. Just ways to explain things not understood at the time. Back to the topic though, I don't believe in heaven or hell or any kind of unified afterlife that has a few possibilities. Instead i believe that death is just another step in existance and that we go on to the next life. May it be on earth or not i do not know only that there is a reason for all of these lives. Mabey our "spirits" gain knowledge and understanding of life through many perspectives of life. I do know that i don't remember anything of past lives and mabey when you die there is some sort of spirit plane in which you do remember everything. Then when your new life begins you forget again and so it goes on forever.

06-11-2004, 07:11 AM	#36
Aybabtu FFR Player Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 9	This is often a subject I find myself wondering about before I drift to sleep some nights, and you know what, I fear death. Well maybe not death it self but the uncertainty it brings. No one really knows what happens after you die. People have told me I am afraid because I do not follow any particular religion, but in fact I do believe in a higher being. There is just that chance that religion was made up by some of the most creative story tellers ever and all I believed in will be a fabrication. I think some people are actually scared into believing in higher beings so if it is true they will not be sent to hell or what not. I would hope to be re-united with loved one and friends in a place where time would not exist and you could stay as long as you wanted. You could return to existence and live another life time and at each death when you got to wherever you would have even more loved ones and friends to be with. That is what I think of this whole death thing, but that could change with age and experiences.. I have plenty of time to spend here and I won't let this hold me back from living. Aybabtu

06-14-2004, 05:03 PM	#38
LEGO Banned Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: In the Mountains Posts: 994	I have a quick question for those believers in Heaven and Hell. It's not meant to be an accusation; just something I wondered. Why is Satan/Lucifer doing what God wants him to do (torture the bad people)? If Satan was against God (aren't they opposites or something?) then wouldn't he want to do what God doesn't want him to do? My idea of heaven is a place where you're only your spirit, no body, floating aimlessly and effortlessly where you please, while you are surrounded by all your family and friends who have passed away as well. I envision this place to be cosmic or on a different plane than simply a bed of clouds like many heavens are depicted as. The most key thing in my heaven is a freedom of want and desire; everyone is content.

06-14-2004, 06:52 PM	#39
talisman Resident Penguin Join Date: May 2003 Age: 37 Posts: 4,598	Oblivion appeals to the rational in me. But seriously, I'd rather lie to myself and happily hustle off to the grave than dread the day I die. Unfortunately I've never been religious, so even if there is a heaven, I'm guessing I'll be fucked.

06-15-2004, 01:47 PM	#40
Jello FFR Simfile Author Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 612	dont worry about it too much... you were dead up to this point, and you will die in about 80 years or so... if you went that long without being alive, whats the rest of eternity? (im someone who thinks about death more then like everyone... but even though im searching for an answer , thats the best way to look at it for now) - Jello

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