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Old 01-19-2004, 07:47 PM   #1
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The introduction for a much larger piece of work I'm doing.

Apparently I've finally found a way to make reaktor my melodywhore...
http://zastari.acunett.com/aperson_axil.mp3
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Old 01-19-2004, 08:13 PM   #2
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Sounds like it's going to be a solid white noise piece. Do you do any dancefloor style songs? (any genre)
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Old 01-19-2004, 08:32 PM   #3
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Oooh. You use reaktor? I've fiddled around with it. Its quite powerfull!

Anyways, quite cool stuff. I'm really diggin what you've made here. Good ambient!
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Old 01-19-2004, 10:24 PM   #4
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Sounds like it's going to be a solid white noise piece. Do you do any dancefloor style songs? (any genre)
No, anything that you can dance to isn't interesting enough for me really.

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Oooh. You use reaktor? I've fiddled around with it. Its quite powerfull!
After 4 months reaktor still scares the crap out of me... So complicated and powerful.
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Old 01-20-2004, 12:28 AM   #5
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Aperson, if you haven't heard anything interesting that you can dance to, then you are only listening to crappy music.

There was this cd my friend had, called the Japanese American Noise treaty, which was a cd of white noise "music". It was total crap, and whitenoise isn't even music. Contest this if you want, but it is the truth. I wouldn't consider this a white noise piece, cynispin, because it had orchestral sounds to it, which by definition makes it not white noise since it has tone


Your piece reminded me of some bad 80s music i heard on VH1 once, where they would go from opening to verse to chorus and back against without ever building up or releasing much tension, if any at all. It makes for boring, uninteresting music, because it is static and flat the entire time, and while it may not be repetitive, there is nothing to ground it and bring it together.

Really, it just reminded me of all the times I would go see my friends play with their orchestras and they'd be warming up before the first chair came out to tune them.

Take all this how you want, but I am one of the few on these forums who have written music from rock to trance, DnB to ambient, classical to punk.. Once you look beneath the surface you will find all music operates on the same level, and listening to a wider variety will only enhance your understanding of it.

DJ Spooky was a founder of the NYC chillout scene, and he wrote some sick shit with ambient. Don't be afraid to put a bassline in there and give a listener something to nod their heads to, or some kickback groove drums. That's what Spooky did, but his music was never hard dancefloor killers smashing drums and bass all over. the majority of stuff he did was an ambient style, but people danced to it, or at least grooved a bit.

Maybe then you need to redefine your ideas about what you find interesting, unless you like writing boring music Aperson
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Old 01-20-2004, 08:18 AM   #6
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Aperson, if you haven't heard anything interesting that you can dance to, then you are only listening to crappy music.

There was this cd my friend had, called the Japanese American Noise treaty, which was a cd of white noise "music". It was total crap, and whitenoise isn't even music. Contest this if you want, but it is the truth. I wouldn't consider this a white noise piece, cynispin, because it had orchestral sounds to it, which by definition makes it not white noise since it has tone


Your piece reminded me of some bad 80s music i heard on VH1 once, where they would go from opening to verse to chorus and back against without ever building up or releasing much tension, if any at all. It makes for boring, uninteresting music, because it is static and flat the entire time, and while it may not be repetitive, there is nothing to ground it and bring it together.

Really, it just reminded me of all the times I would go see my friends play with their orchestras and they'd be warming up before the first chair came out to tune them.

Take all this how you want, but I am one of the few on these forums who have written music from rock to trance, DnB to ambient, classical to punk.. Once you look beneath the surface you will find all music operates on the same level, and listening to a wider variety will only enhance your understanding of it.

DJ Spooky was a founder of the NYC chillout scene, and he wrote some sick (#$% with ambient. Don't be afraid to put a bassline in there and give a listener something to nod their heads to, or some kickback groove drums. That's what Spooky did, but his music was never hard dancefloor killers smashing drums and bass all over. the majority of stuff he did was an ambient style, but people danced to it, or at least grooved a bit.

Maybe then you need to redefine your ideas about what you find interesting, unless you like writing boring music Aperson
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Also, most dancefloor beats bore me is what I'm saying. Hoo fucking ray you can write a 4/4 piece with some standard club drumsets... that gets old after so long.

This is what interests me: http://zastari.acunett.com/vo_stream_bas.mp3
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Sorry dude, you just proved the only dance music you hear is crap.
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By the way, DJ Spooky rawks. He gets a lot of his influence from movie soundtrack composers like John Williams and Danny Elfman. White B-Boys know how it's done.
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Old 01-20-2004, 03:53 PM   #9
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I've listened to DJ Spooky, doesn't really hold my attention.

And Cynispin, if you are so omniscient of the dance floor world, prove me wrong with some mp3s.
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This isn't every other forum on these boards, Aperson. If you want to fight then take it elsewhere..

Sorry, I thought you could handle a bit of negative criticism, but seeing you can't, then I take it all back. There is not point in saying something if the other party will refuse to even consider it.

Please shut up now.
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Old 01-20-2004, 08:00 PM   #11
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Oh well, some people take critism harder or looser than others. No biggy.

Aperson,

The beginning of your track almost made me think I was watching The Matrix. I like the ambience in there.
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Sorry dude, you just proved the only dance music you hear is crap.
Hey, IDM's aren't that bad.. well then again, I'm not sure. The only IDM I've heard and like is Aphex Twin - Flim.
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Old 01-20-2004, 09:18 PM   #13
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umm, interesting dancable music is pretty common. Check out hallucinogen at www.shpongle.com/hallucinogen
if you dont call that shit dancable and interesting then i dont know what is
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Old 01-20-2004, 09:26 PM   #14
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I am a big fan of "IDM", but mainly the Ambient-esque style. I dont much like the hardcore fragen drums that drive you half insane. I am more into chill whatnot. Thus, being the reason I really like Aphex Twin.
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Old 01-20-2004, 09:42 PM   #15
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This isn't every other forum on these boards, Aperson. If you want to fight then take it elsewhere..
Yes, I'm sorry I defend myself against some over-the-top criticism...

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Sorry, I thought you could handle a bit of negative criticism, but seeing you can't, then I take it all back.
Some of it is positive. The orchestra warming up? Exactly what I was going for.

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Old 01-20-2004, 09:54 PM   #16
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My feeling from your song.
A man, all alone, comes out of his hiding place. He hid there because of some disaster (unknown, but probably man made). He sees the ruins and rubble of a city he once called his home. He keeps walking around.

(The bells/xylophone come in on the song)
He sights a few things he partially recognizes.

(The rumbles in the song stop)
He picks them up as a remembrance of times long gone.

(Ending notes after the air sound)
The camera positions itself above the man and zooms out to black.


That is what I feel from your song.
Listen to the song again and follow along with my words.
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Old 01-21-2004, 02:54 PM   #17
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I played this over Super Metroid, and it matched that game perfectly. So it is officially awesome.
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Old 01-21-2004, 06:50 PM   #18
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This isn't every other forum on these boards, Aperson. If you want to fight then take it elsewhere..

Sorry, I thought you could handle a bit of negative criticism, but seeing you can't, then I take it all back. There is not point in saying something if the other party will refuse to even consider it.

Please shut up now.
Wow, chill out man. What he said didn't seem aggressive.

And your "redefine what you think is interesting" line sounds like bullshit to me. If he likes what he's doing then its more important than what you, the listener likes (untill your main goal with the music is to sell it and such). You could have said, "I didn't like it because..... " and "I suggest....." not "You need to change what you are doing because it sucks." People aren't going to consider something if it comes in that form.

Whatever. What you said seemed haughty and overly harsh. It also seems like you can't take critisism of your critisism. Both of you need to learn how to hand out and take critisism better.
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Love that game, and yeah, it would mesh pretty well.
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Old 01-21-2004, 11:18 PM   #20
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you know cenright, i completely see what you mean. your story fully fits in with the music.
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